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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 0:57:07 GMT
It was on 1 May 1776 that Adam Weishaupt, a professor of law at the University of Ingolstadt, founded the Order of the Illuminati, a secret organisation formed to oppose religious influence on society and the abuse of power by the state by fostering a safe space for critique, debate and free speech. Inspired by the Freemasons and French Enlightenment philosophers, Weishaupt believed that society should no longer be dictated by religious virtues; instead he wanted to create a state of liberty and moral equality where knowledge was not restricted by religious prejudices. However religious and political conservatism ruled in Ingolstadt at that time, and subject matter taught at the Jesuit-controlled university where Weishaupt lectured was strictly monitored. After initially handpicking his five most talented law students to join, the network rapidly expanded, its members disseminating Weishaupt’s goals of enlightenment with radical teachings, while at the same time creating an elaborate network of informants who reported on the behaviour of state and religious figures in an effort to build up a wealth of information that the Illuminati could potentially exploit in their teachings. With the help of prominent German diplomat Baron Adolf Franz Friedrich, Freiherr von Knigge – who helped recruit Freemason lodges to the Illuminati cause – the clandestine group grew to more than 2,000 members throughout Bavaria, France, Hungary, Italy and Poland, among other places. Weishaupt was in many ways a revolutionary,” Klarner continued. “He liked the idea of teaching people to be better human beings. He wanted to change society, he was dreaming of a better world, of a better government. He started the Illuminati with the idea that everything known to human kind should be taught – something that was not allowed here at the university.” The organisation didn’t evade the establishment for long, however. Just a decade after its creation, the secret society was infiltrated by Bavarian authorities after its radical anti-state writings were intercepted by government authorities. The Illuminati was shut down and Weishaupt was banished from Ingolstadt to live the rest of his life in the German city of Gotha, 300km to the north. Yet the idea of a secret society revolting against the state has captured imaginations ever since, encapsulated in conspiracy theories cooked up by those who believe the Illuminati was never actually disbanded – a claim that has been widely debunked by historians. Even still, conspiracy theorists say that the organisation has been covertly working behind the scenes to subvert authority. The Illuminati has been suggested as the party responsible for the French Revolution, the assassination of US president John F Kennedy and even the 11 September 2001 terror attacks, and has become famous through books and films like Dan Brown’s “I think it’s one of the most interesting topics we look at here,” Eppelsheimer said as she studied the dusty spines in a section dedicated solely to Ingolstadt’s history. She delicately pulled out one of the smallest books on the shelf. It was Apologie der Illuminaten, a 1786 work written by Weishaupt in which he defended the creation of the Illuminati shortly after his exile from the city. “It’s crazy what the Illuminati has been made into,” the archivist said as she leafed through the pages of the well-worn manuscript. “What it’s been made into has nothing to do with the real Illuminati.” More of Weishaupt’s words can be found in small, unassuming volumes hidden among the city’s vast archive. It’s as though more than two centuries after its formation, Weishaupt’s Illuminati has continued to remain as elusive as possible. www.bbc.com/travel/story/20171127-the-birthplace-of-the-illuminati
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 6, 2018 3:20:00 GMT
So it's mostly freemansons and philosophers opposing religions?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 11:54:59 GMT
So it's mostly freemansons and philosophers opposing religions? I noticed the entire selective edit I wanted to paste was missing..so I just edited it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 11:56:17 GMT
So it's mostly freemansons and philosophers opposing religions? That's not how I interpret it. Care to read about Jesuit and what evil they hold
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 6, 2018 16:48:25 GMT
So it's mostly freemansons and philosophers opposing religions? That's not how I interpret it. Care to read about Jesuit and what evil they hold That's just what stood out in the link you gave so thought it could be a big point in the artical. And yeah I'm sure the Jesuits are evil too.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 18:14:54 GMT
That's not how I interpret it. Care to read about Jesuit and what evil they hold That's just what stood out in the link you gave so thought it could be a big point in the artical. And yeah I'm sure the Jesuits are evil too. The Jesuits(Society of Jesus) themselves are a secret society just like the illuminati was. Both of them were Masonic organizations, the Jesuits still are. They swear blood oaths, while the Bible says not to.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 18:16:05 GMT
That's just what stood out in the link you gave so thought it could be a big point in the artical. And yeah I'm sure the Jesuits are evil too. The Jesuits(Society of Jesus) themselves are a secret society just like the illuminati was. Both of them were Masonic organizations, the Jesuits still are. They swear blood oaths, while the Bible says not to. They are ducking evil
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 18:19:07 GMT
The Jesuits(Society of Jesus) themselves are a secret society just like the illuminati was. Both of them were Masonic organizations, the Jesuits still are. They swear blood oaths, while the Bible says not to. They are ducking evil All secret societies are evil.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 6, 2018 18:22:07 GMT
Do Jesuits kill too? Sad
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 18:25:37 GMT
All secret societies are evil. I met a 32ND degree Freemason.. He was a cool guy. Spoke with him for hours. From Texas was living in my neighbourhood. spoke some real shit for hours. About Christianity he said, that there was this incident that they heard a voice from God but that was misinterpreted as Jesus heard that voice or something like that, I don't really remember and that's how Jesus was mistaken to be a God. He was a ducking hypocrite, knew all religions were fake but use to attend the church as a bishop. Considering Commonwealth countries he was the most powerful figure after the Queen.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 18:30:00 GMT
They were the ones doing the torturing and killing during the Catholic inquisitions. They also conspired/attempted to kill king James in the Gunpowder Plot in England in 1605 because they knew he was giving the order for the KJV Bible to be created.
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 6, 2018 18:31:15 GMT
All secret societies are evil. I met a 32ND degree Freemason.. He was a cool guy. Spoke with him for hours. From Texas was living in my neighbourhood. spoke some real shit for hours. About Christianity he said, that there was this incident that they heard a voice from God but that was misinterpreted as Jesus heard that voice or something like that, I don't really remember and that's how Jesus was mistaken to be a God. He was a ducking hypocrite, knew all religions were fake but use to attend the church as a bishop. Considering Commonwealth countries he was the most powerful figure after the Queen. 32nd? How do they get such degrees? Or is it based on their age and the only degree they can go up to is the one they die on?
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 6, 2018 18:31:54 GMT
They were the ones doing the torturing and killing during the Catholic inquisitions. They also conspired/attempted to kill king James in the Gunpowder Plot in England in 1605 because they knew he was giving the order for the KJV Bible to be created. Why aren't these criminals locked up?
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 18:39:56 GMT
I met a 32ND degree Freemason.. He was a cool guy. Spoke with him for hours. From Texas was living in my neighbourhood. spoke some real shit for hours. About Christianity he said, that there was this incident that they heard a voice from God but that was misinterpreted as Jesus heard that voice or something like that, I don't really remember and that's how Jesus was mistaken to be a God. He was a ducking hypocrite, knew all religions were fake but use to attend the church as a bishop. Considering Commonwealth countries he was the most powerful figure after the Queen. 32nd? How do they get such degrees? Or is it based on their age and the only degree they can go up to is the one they die on? They advance in degree by memorizing their rituals and displaying that they understand their position/status as a mason. Some are allowed to advance by presenting scholarly works as well, like writing a book.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 18:45:55 GMT
They were the ones doing the torturing and killing during the Catholic inquisitions. They also conspired/attempted to kill king James in the Gunpowder Plot in England in 1605 because they knew he was giving the order for the KJV Bible to be created. Why aren't these criminals locked up? At the time of the inquisition the Catholic church was the law, so they were allowed to kill and torture people. The Jesuits in the conspiracy to kill king James were sentenced to death. Today, I'm not sure if they continue to kill and torture people, though, in the oath they swear when becoming a Jesuit they state the following, "I furthermore promise and declare that I will, when opportunity present, make and wage relentless war, secretly or openly, against all heretics, Protestants and Liberals, as I am directed to do, to extirpate and exterminate them from the face of the whole earth; and that I will spare neither age, sex or condition; and that I will hang, waste, boil, flay, strangle and bury alive these infamous heretics, rip up the stomachs and wombs of their women and crush their infants' heads against the walls, in order to annihilate forever their execrable race. That when the same cannot be done openly, I will secretly use the poisoned cup, the strangulating cord, the steel of the poniard or the leaden bullet, regardless of the honor, rank, dignity, or authority of the person or persons, whatever may be their condition in life, either public or private, as I at any time may be directed so to do by any agent of the Pope or Superior of the Brotherhood of the Holy Faith, of the Society of Jesus."
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