"You "look" for a woman, or any friendship for that matter, you are forcing the person to fit into the context of your own desires and wants and fundamentally overwrite the natural fluidity of the relationship but also free will. In regards to "looking" all one has to do is observe the environment, specifically the family and friends, a woman comes from and observe who she was is and will be....you marry the girl you marry the family. Relationships are not necessarily between individuals but the families as well. Observing the environment is equally, if not more, effective than observing the individual."
No, when you look for a woman, or a friendship, you don't force anyone to fit into any context of what you want. You look for the person(or people) who just does, no force necessary, no tricking your own mind into believing something you don't actually believe. What you're proposing is a very dishonest way of going about looking for love/relationship/friendship/marriage/etc.
Tell me about your marriage.As far as family and friends of the person you have a relationship with, no, you don't marry the family or the friends. You only do if the person you marry doesn't have full control over their own life because they let their family and friends run their life for them.
So the girl you are with, her family never had any influence over her what so ever. One can just ignore the family the girl comes from."And if they are from you what am I going to here? It is a serious question, the majority of your beliefs stem from a deeply ingrained anger over religion and your place and purpose as a man in said religion....alot of people out their follow the same paradigm."
Anger over religion?
what you're talking about here.
Your hatred for Catholics, and your seemingly "Ill interpret religion according to how I want" attitude...is well...just religious relativism. I don't judge you, I get it...twisting and turning a statement to fit what you want...I have just seen better. Tell me when you open your own denomination."Fake? True. However one has to be open to possibilities and what possibilities that do not result still give access to valuable information. Dating sites are a valuable form of information mining more than anything."
There's nothing of value to be had from subjecting yourself to phony people. Something, anything, anyone that is fake isn't real and therefore isn't worth anything.
Actually learning what is not true provides negative information that shows what not to pursue."Everyone."
This is what is called a faulty generalization and you do it quite a lot.
So...you are not everyone? You appear to keep generalizing that all my statements are generalities."It does not matter what anyone thinks, if they lose. People are fickle and friends become enemies and enemies become friends and it is a process of going about in circles. Appeasement is balance, happiness is not a necessity...movement is.
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If they lose? It doesn't matter, period. Winners cheat sometimes, actually a lot more do than don't. You're describing something that is very unstable and therefore not balanced at all. Sounds like you're more or less being thrown around by the wind and going wherever it takes you.
Me sucking you into the conversation only proves I am the storm tossing about what I will. So...stability...nice work...real "strong" and err...."meaningingful"... word. Tell me about your stable life...religious rebel."Everyone is going to hell unless they interpret the bible in the manner you interpret it, and don't limit "Christianity" to just you...the one's that don't preach hellfire are weak humanitarians that can barely keep their own families together. Domination and force are truth...physically, spiritually, emotionally. The Christian Church doesn't even follow its own teachings...and yet they scream their prayers to their god and we see the fruits of it. They offer "peace" because "peace" is a dirty word subject to multiple meanings."
No, I never said that. I never said Clovis is going to hell because he likes to think fallen angels mated with human females. The Bible tells us who is and isn't going to hell, and I didn't write the Bible. And I don't limit Christianity to just me, YOU do. Domination and force are truth? I'm pretty sure I asked you this before, but am I forcing anyone to do anything outside their own free will? Am I dominating anyone physically, spiritually, or emotionally? There you are with another faulty generalization.
Rationalization is force, and you rationalize scripture according to your will...tell me about your work with the homeless, or sick family members, or your wife you have been loyal to all your life and have children with. I get it...the bible is your weapon...but other people claim "x" book, such as the Koran, Torah, or Bagavadghita is divinely inspired also...What seperates your scripture from theres?"The Christians offer no free will because they offer no offer to change. They will preach to africans, but forget their own people. They will talk about love, but they cannot keep their families together. The women will talk about saving themselves for marriage while having their leg's spread wide open (metaphorically speaking) during the whole conversation. The men will talk about wisdom and strength, yet in the face of the iphone and technological progress they don't know what to do. What I am saying is the Christianity has not taken away anything, but it has not given anything though either...it presents moral confusion and is tainted salt that should be purified."
Uhhh, which Christians? You're describing the former Soviet Union very well with that statement. And again, more faulty generalizations of which there is no point of response to
That is my point...which Christians...or maybe better put what Christians."You claim the majority of his creation is going to hell...who is really the angry one?"
I didn't make that claim, the Bible did and I've shown you where it said that. Would you like me to show you again?
I read the whole thing, you interpret which verse that supports you viewpoint and this leads to hell. Besides, if everything is being cast to hell by God...according to you...destruction is a necessary evil."That is the question the Christians cannot seem to answer...as evidenced by their hundreds of sects..."what is Christian?""
A Christian is someone who follows the Bible. Pretty simple.
And if they interpret it differently than you do you claim they are not Christian....it is an infinitely regressive logic."Christianity caters to women and homosexuals...it ignores the everyday man and not just ceases to provide guidance but effectively criminalizes his life to where any and every move is sterilized...it is a projection of western culture and the root of this dying civilization."
Really? Where in the Bible does it say to cater to homosexuals or women? Christianity isn't about catering to specific people. The Bible says on multiple occasions that God is not a respecter of persons. You're not describing Biblical Christianity.
I am describing the Church that exists today...well regardless....God is not a respecter of person's....so what gives you authority to preach?"Who's gonna give it to you? You took your's by force...made up your own interpretation and claimed the spirit of God works through you. What is responsibility but working to provide for a better world. Taking care of a family through hard work, being there when someone is sick, showing compassion to those who need it such as the homeless. But people don't want these things...they want never-ending fun and games...entertainment. Christianity is an exhibition of love, no silence or peace...it an entertainment industry based around the word "value". The east, during communism forced Christianity underground...the west turned it into an industry of shouting men praying on the desperate.
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Oh? Maybe you can elaborate a bit on that one. No, I didn't make up my own interpretation of the Bible. It says what it says. Maybe you show go look at this thread here;
arktos.boards.net/thread/395/favourite-bible-quote-passage?page=4&scrollTo=35833Tell me the morality of genetic engineering based on scripture...then tell me it is not your interpretation.jonbain says cherubim are actually machines, and leviathan is an amphibious tank.. and you want to say I am making up my own interpretation?
Some people interpret the locusts in Revelation are helicopters and some people interpret Jesus to be Lucifer
Helping people is good, many people do help people, I've helped people(not boasting).
And again with fault generalizations
I'm not going to begin to defend people who call themselves Christian and are not. You know, or should know, as well as I do that, as you know there are fake people everywhere(especially on dating websites), there are indeed fake Christians and that there are more fake ones then there are real ones. What you are describing is not real Christianity.
You claim I generalize, but isn't "Christians are those which follow the bible" a generality you judge other's buy?"Real work...construction, sales, etc."
I did sales once. If you want to make enough money to live you have to lie to people. Sales jobs are desperation jobs unless you're a good liar OR you're selling a product that can sell itself.
Uhh...focusing on the sales...what other "experience" do you have?"Or not."
It is so. I am not aware of what you are speaking of.. nor do I know what he has to do with loyal wives
"Quote scriptural passage."
Should I quote you the whole Bible? We have free will as shown to us in the Bible and proven in reality, and having free will gives us the ability to make our own choices and decisions in life, hence life is what we make it.
So you make up your interpretations since the bible, according you, is the book of life?"Tell me about your marriage."
I'm not married. Tell me about yours, wait, don't. It’s probably a miserable marriage. You know, you’d think someone who claims to be right all the time and have all the right answers wouldn’t be so miserable shrug
"So the girl you are with, her family never had any influence over her what so ever. One can just ignore the family the girl comes from."
You said "you marry the girl you marry the family", and now you're switching over to influence via child rearing. When you marry a woman you marry her. You don't make a vow to her family, you make it to her, and her to you.
"Your hatred for Catholics, and your seemingly "Ill interpret religion according to how I want" attitude...is well...just religious relativism. I don't judge you, I get it...twisting and turning a statement to fit what you want...I have just seen better. Tell me when you open your own denomination.
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Hatred? Where did I express hatred toward anyone? I would say you're more full of hatred than anyone else here on this forum. Seemingly, yes, according to someone who doesn't understand what the Bible says through simple reading comprehension it would
seem that I'm making my own interpretation. No, it isn't what I want the Bible to say, it's what it says, and I didn't write it. Sure you judge me, you judge me all the time, you judge me by my fruits that seem to know so much about even though you have no clue who I am or what I've done. Your only source of information is this forum and information on this forum is too insufficient for you to make any conclusion about anyone. Actions are what make a person, so when you judge a person's actions you judge them. So, while you advocate "judge not" you're literally pulling the ol' "do as I say, not as I do".
"Actually learning what is not true provides negative information that shows what not to pursue."
You haven't figured out what not to pursue yet?
"So...you are not everyone? You appear to keep generalizing that all my statements are generalities."
No, I'm not everyone. And no I'm not generalizing that all your statements are generalities, just a good amount of them.
"Me sucking you into the conversation only proves I am the storm tossing about what I will. So...stability...nice work...real "strong" and err...."meaningingful"... word. Tell me about your stable life...religious rebel."
I'm actually bored. You have no control over anything here. I'm only talking to you because I want to, not because you want me to. Or, you can flatter yourself more, you like to do that.
My life is fine... hey bro quit judging me bro.
"Rationalization is force, and you rationalize scripture according to your will...tell me about your work with the homeless, or sick family members, or your wife you have been loyal to all your life and have children with. I get it...the bible is your weapon...but other people claim "x" book, such as the Koran, Torah, or Bagavadghita is divinely inspired also...What seperates your scripture from theres?
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No it isn't, and no I don't. I'm not here to boast about my works, but if you want to know for the sake of knowing I'll share a couple; I've fed the poor and helped my aunt that has cancer. I'm not married
but even in all my relationships I've always been loyal. Yes, the Bible is my sword. The Torah is in the Bible
and I don't care what people claim about the Koran or the Hindu book. When I asked God from my heart to show me the truth He showed me the Bible, not any other book or religion.
"What seperates your scripture from theres?" One only has to read
"That is my point...which Christians...or maybe better put what Christians."
Have you met every single person that calls themself a Christian face to face, seen everything they do and have done, and read their minds and their hearts?
"I read the whole thing, you interpret which verse that supports you viewpoint and this leads to hell. Besides, if everything is being cast to hell by God...according to you...destruction is a necessary evil."
Well you clearly don't understand it. When then tell me smart guy, what did Jesus mean when He said "For many are called, but few are chosen." in the context? Everything? No. I never said that, and neither does the Bible. The Bible says the world will be judged by God, and God's judgments are righteous.
"And if they interpret it differently than you do you claim they are not Christian....it is an infinitely regressive logic."
No, if they don't have the correct interpretation, they may or may not be a Biblical Christian. Not all misinterpretations are damnable. You're making me a standard for whatever reason, probably an attempt to discredit me and make me seem like a cult leader or something. Nobody follows me, and I don't want anyone to follow me. And I'm not the only one who interprets the Bible for what it says.
"I am describing the Church that exists today...well regardless....God is not a respecter of person's....so what gives you authority to preach?"
There are many churches. There's the catholic church, the orthodox church, the anglican church, the church of England, the pentecostal church, the charismatic church, the baptist church, the methodist church, the presbyterian church, the nazarene church, the calvinist church, the arminian church, etc. and they all have divisions within themselves.
what? Do you know what that means? God is not a respecter of persons as in it doesn't matter if you're poor, rich, blind, deaf, big, small, black, white, yellow, red, blue, purple, Greek, British, German, Russian, American, Chinese, male, female, etc. He isn't going to favor one person over the based on superficial traits. I'm commanded by God to preach and spread the gospel.
"Tell me the morality of genetic engineering based on scripture...then tell me it is not your interpretation."
Manipulating what God created is not why God put man on earth, man is here to be the caretaker of God's creation, not manipulator of God's creation. Manipulating God's creation is an obvious gesture of rebellion.
"You claim I generalize, but isn't "Christians are those which follow the bible" a generality you judge other's buy?"
You do generalize. No, because that's what the Bible says Christians are. God is the judge. His word, the Bible, judges for us. I didn't know who was and wasn't a Christian before I read the Bible.
"Uhh...focusing on the sales...what other "experience" do you have?"
Oh, this is about me? But you like talking about yourself so much. Well, I have mechanic experience, military experience, and farming experience to name some. Not at all proud, just things I decided to do for work.
"So you make up your interpretations since the bible, according you, is the book of life?"
Nope, I don't make up interpretations. No, the Bible isn't the book of life, that's a separate book that nobody has access to but God, according to the Bible.
what you're talking about here.
Some people interpret the locusts in Revelation are helicopters and some people interpret Jesus to be Lucifer 
I'm actually bored. You have no control over anything here. I'm only talking to you because I want to, not because you want me to. Or, you can flatter yourself more, you like to do that. 
