Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 5, 2018 8:14:21 GMT
So I was watching this protest where La Raza which is a Mexican nationalist group that wants to take the entire southwest of the United States, cleanse it of the white people and found a new country called Aztlan (because they've run their own country Mexico into the ground.) Anyways one of them were holding a sign that said, "Go back to Europe! Illegal immigrants since 1492." The point being that the Mestizo Mexicans are of (part) indigenous American descent and thus are Native to the continent thus making white people the invaders and illegal immigrants (even though their native ancestors never stepped foot in what is now the United States.) Amusingly a white man retorted, "maybe when I go back to Europe I'll drop you off in Spain!" Anyways, La Raza stupidity aside this does bring up a point that should be considered. Technically, Americans, Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, many Latin Americans, all of those blacks in the Caribbean and in America are squatting on stolen land. Maybe us white people in the United States (and everybody who isn't native) should go back to the countries for which we came from. Lord knows that the Europeans could sure use some American values of God and liberty and it would do a great deal to help with the demographic displacement in these countries by Muslims. Anyways besides the feasibility of it all do you think that people should go back to their native lands? I think that an infusion of Americans would do nothing but good for Europe personally but I wouldn't want African Americans to suffer in Africa so I don't know...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 3:45:27 GMT
These cheap labors are from asia, who work for 18 hours in day, as they are raised in this manner, to send money back home. This is all a big game. And the Mexican labor in the fields picking oranges and other crops. They also send money home. The agribusiness corporations want this inefficient style of labor because it costs less than mechanizing their operation. Everyone talks about how without the Mexicans the crops will rot in the field and how Americans won't do these jobs. No, Americans won't do these jobs for near slave wages like the Mexicans and there are these thing called "machines" that will actually harvest the crop more efficiently if the corporate heads weren't so laughably cheap. No people with SELF HONOR would do any job for PITTANCE,actually.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 7, 2018 6:29:28 GMT
Are you afraid the Mexicans will take over the US? Anyway, I see that Mexicans are very active in North America. If the democrats have their way and we have open borders, the entirety of Latin America is going to enter our country and the USA will for all intents and purposes cease to exist. The danger immigration poses to our country cannot be understated. White Americans by and large vote republican in my country so democrats encourage immigration both legal and illegal because newcomer immigrants from third world countries vote democrat because of the democrat's mastery of identity politics and government handouts. If we don't stop immigration to our country now and the immigration level reaches to a point that parties don't need the white vote anymore we would have a one party state ruled by democrats. The democrats are now moving in the direction of genuine socialism. That didn't work so good in Venezuela or literally any other country its been tried in, so yeah. I'm basically a one issue voter. Whoever stops immigration and secures our borders I vote for. That's why I voted for Trump. I see the situation that the position of the Democrats in the United States is very strong and you're just doomed to get this one-party monster .
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Post by mazarick on Jul 24, 2018 1:16:11 GMT
Concerned.docx (26.32 KB)(I was trying to post a reply twice, but I had "technical difficulties) Clovis, I was born in Columbia, SC. When I was getting ready to enter first grade at BC #2, I heard Billy Graham say "Amen!" at the First Baptist Church on Bull Street. My family would agree would agree with you, particularly the portion that remains in SC. I would like to offer some amplification/improvements of what you have already said. First, know what your traits are. The same trait may look differently when it is deployed in different times/circumstances. For instance, the Texans have a trait of never knowing when to quit. The same trait that looked good at the Alamo didn't look nearly as good when George W. Bush flew a fighter aircraft into Iraq. In the Carolinas (particularly eastern NC) was heavily settled by the Scots. After the King of England defeated Bonnie Prince Charlie, he sent them halfway around the world where they wouldn't cause any more trouble. He also gave them a huge tract of land if they promised to settle it and swear allegiance to the Crown. Flora MacDonald settled in what became Fayetteville, NC. Before the Revolution, it was called Cumberland. During the Revolutionary War, the matriarch of my wife's family (her maiden name was McKay) sent half of her sons to fight for the Loyalists and half to fight for the Revolutionaries. That way, she'd get to keep the land no matter who won. This was a proto-typically American decision before there was even an America. It is called "hedging your bets". The Scots do not like to take any risks (unlike the English, which will bet on anything). That is why they make great lawyers and engineers. There is a reason the engineer on the Starship Enterprise was named "Scottie". Even very recently, the Scottish had a national referendum to take the North Sea Oil with them and leave the UK. They didn't do it, primarily because their pensions were tied up in UK pounds and they did not want to take the risk. Like all Southern boys, we never quit fighting the Civil War. That is because we don't want to see what happened to us to happen to us again. We turn over every possibility. However, the South had to be defeated. It represented the Status Quo and the Northern States represented Innovation. My father, who was from Vandergrift, Pa read a geography book published in the 1850s. The book said 50% of the South's wealth was tied up in slaves. By the 1870s, there was no money tied up in slaves and what was left was cut in value by half in the South. That was because of the destruction caused by the Civil War. The geography book also said that the Northern states had 5 times as much wealth as the Southern States. War was inevitable. My father also said that in the Northern states, people usually settled in neighborhoods where they kept the customs of the "old country", but in the South, because it was rural primarily, people settled together. It was a big "dysfunctional" family. The whites really loved the blacks. That is why there were so many rules against it. Rules are made to be broken, or they wouldn't have been made to start out with. It is unlike the hatred that the Arabs and the Jews have for each other (neither side want the other side to survive). Although there is a lot about the Jim Crow era, this was a throwback before the Civil War era. Neither side wanted to see the other side obliterated. It was like going to the bathroom - you generally go into one marked for your sex and a lot of people in the South had to re-learn that it was not ok to let blacks go to separate toilets, drink from separate water fountains, go to separate schools, etc. The only thing we have going for us is a willingness to follow the dictates of the US Constitution. In it, there is a place for everyone to follow intelligent "self interest" and it will be for the greatest good possible. For instance, there is a section in the US Constitution that states that a Volunteer Army and Gun Rights go hand in hand. The US hasn't had a volunteer army since the end of the Vietnamese War. A professional army has its strengths and weaknesses. The reason it is in the US Constitution is because we were still smarting from having to defeat the British professional army. It is easier to deploy a professional army - the only thing a Commander in Chief needs to do is to deploy it. It is much harder to get the House of Representatives to declare war because they are professional politicians who's main job is to "kick the can" down the road as far as they can so the next person that gets elected will have to deal with it - not them. However, when the House of Representatives finally acts there can only be one outcome. When the last undeclared war was fought (not counting the Gulf of Ton-kin resolution, which has been demonstrated to be fake news), Westmoreland (from SC) was saying to Fritz Hollings (then Senator from SC) that he had achieved a 10 to 1 "kill ratio". Fritz told him "people don't care about the 10, but they care very deeply about the 1". If you aren't willing to take a 1:1 kill ratio, you have no business going to war. President Trump won the election, primarily on immigration. However, the main issue is not immigration, the primary issue is the US is not growing. The US has not been growing for 20 years and will not grow in the next 20 years, unless we do something about it. There are Treasury Department projections, and if we do not do anything, they will come true. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455083087877898241/471120593698291714/Concerned.docx
[a href="https://discordapp.com/channels/@me/455083087877898241"]Read "Concerned.docx"[/a]
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 25, 2018 0:20:42 GMT
View Attachment(I was trying to post a reply twice, but I had "technical difficulties) Clovis, I was born in Columbia, SC. When I was getting ready to enter first grade at BC #2, I heard Billy Graham say "Amen!" at the First Baptist Church on Bull Street. My family would agree would agree with you, particularly the portion that remains in SC. I would like to offer some amplification/improvements of what you have already said. First, know what your traits are. The same trait may look differently when it is deployed in different times/circumstances. For instance, the Texans have a trait of never knowing when to quit. The same trait that looked good at the Alamo didn't look nearly as good when George W. Bush flew a fighter aircraft into Iraq. In the Carolinas (particularly eastern NC) was heavily settled by the Scots. After the King of England defeated Bonnie Prince Charlie, he sent them halfway around the world where they wouldn't cause any more trouble. He also gave them a huge tract of land if they promised to settle it and swear allegiance to the Crown. Flora MacDonald settled in what became Fayetteville, NC. Before the Revolution, it was called Cumberland. During the Revolutionary War, the matriarch of my wife's family (her maiden name was McKay) sent half of her sons to fight for the Loyalists and half to fight for the Revolutionaries. That way, she'd get to keep the land no matter who won. This was a proto-typically American decision before there was even an America. It is called "hedging your bets". The Scots do not like to take any risks (unlike the English, which will bet on anything). That is why they make great lawyers and engineers. There is a reason the engineer on the Starship Enterprise was named "Scottie". Even very recently, the Scottish had a national referendum to take the North Sea Oil with them and leave the UK. They didn't do it, primarily because their pensions were tied up in UK pounds and they did not want to take the risk. Like all Southern boys, we never quit fighting the Civil War. That is because we don't want to see what happened to us to happen to us again. We turn over every possibility. However, the South had to be defeated. It represented the Status Quo and the Northern States represented Innovation. My father, who was from Vandergrift, Pa read a geography book published in the 1850s. The book said 50% of the South's wealth was tied up in slaves. By the 1870s, there was no money tied up in slaves and what was left was cut in value by half in the South. That was because of the destruction caused by the Civil War. The geography book also said that the Northern states had 5 times as much wealth as the Southern States. War was inevitable. My father also said that in the Northern states, people usually settled in neighborhoods where they kept the customs of the "old country", but in the South, because it was rural primarily, people settled together. It was a big "dysfunctional" family. The whites really loved the blacks. That is why there were so many rules against it. Rules are made to be broken, or they wouldn't have been made to start out with. It is unlike the hatred that the Arabs and the Jews have for each other (neither side want the other side to survive). Although there is a lot about the Jim Crow era, this was a throwback before the Civil War era. Neither side wanted to see the other side obliterated. It was like going to the bathroom - you generally go into one marked for your sex and a lot of people in the South had to re-learn that it was not ok to let blacks go to separate toilets, drink from separate water fountains, go to separate schools, etc. The only thing we have going for us is a willingness to follow the dictates of the US Constitution. In it, there is a place for everyone to follow intelligent "self interest" and it will be for the greatest good possible. For instance, there is a section in the US Constitution that states that a Volunteer Army and Gun Rights go hand in hand. The US hasn't had a volunteer army since the end of the Vietnamese War. A professional army has its strengths and weaknesses. The reason it is in the US Constitution is because we were still smarting from having to defeat the British professional army. It is easier to deploy a professional army - the only thing a Commander in Chief needs to do is to deploy it. It is much harder to get the House of Representatives to declare war because they are professional politicians who's main job is to "kick the can" down the road as far as they can so the next person that gets elected will have to deal with it - not them. However, when the House of Representatives finally acts there can only be one outcome. When the last undeclared war was fought (not counting the Gulf of Ton-kin resolution, which has been demonstrated to be fake news), Westmoreland (from SC) was saying to Fritz Hollings (then Senator from SC) that he had achieved a 10 to 1 "kill ratio". Fritz told him "people don't care about the 10, but they care very deeply about the 1". If you aren't willing to take a 1:1 kill ratio, you have no business going to war. President Trump won the election, primarily on immigration. However, the main issue is not immigration, the primary issue is the US is not growing. The US has not been growing for 20 years and will not grow in the next 20 years, unless we do something about it. There are Treasury Department projections, and if we do not do anything, they will come true. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455083087877898241/471120593698291714/Concerned.docx
[a href="https://discordapp.com/channels/@me/455083087877898241"]Read "Concerned.docx"[/a] The US isn't growing how specifically?
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Post by mazarick on Jul 25, 2018 1:44:38 GMT
The US economy is expanding at 1.5-2% per year and has been doing this for a number of years. The interest rate can't be higher than the growth rate for more that 1.5 years and sustain itself. What goes up must come down. There is a chart of the growth in the US economy. The economy is shown at 0.1% for scale purposes so they would fit on the same page. The economic projection numbers were prepared by the US Treasury Department. It also has projections for how much money the US Treasury would lose from the SBJA of 2010. For every winner, there has to be a loser. It is the job of everyone on this bulletin board to make sure the Treasury Department loses so they can grow overall.
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Post by mazarick on Jul 25, 2018 1:48:24 GMT
The US economy is expanding at 1.5-2% per year and has been doing this for a number of years. The interest rate can't be higher than the growth rate for more that 1.5 years and sustain itself. What goes up must come down. There is a chart of the growth in the US economy. The economy is shown at 0.1% for scale purposes so they would fit on the same page. The economic projection numbers were prepared by the US Treasury Department. It also has projections for how much money the US Treasury would lose from the SBJA of 2010. For every winner, there has to be a loser. It is the job of everyone on this bulletin board to make sure the Treasury Department loses so they can grow overall. (image attachment doesn't work)
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 25, 2018 2:33:13 GMT
(I was trying to post a reply twice, but I had "technical difficulties) Clovis, I was born in Columbia, SC. When I was getting ready to enter first grade at BC #2, I heard Billy Graham say "Amen!" at the First Baptist Church on Bull Street. My family would agree would agree with you, particularly the portion that remains in SC. I would like to offer some amplification/improvements of what you have already said. First, know what your traits are. The same trait may look differently when it is deployed in different times/circumstances. For instance, the Texans have a trait of never knowing when to quit. The same trait that looked good at the Alamo didn't look nearly as good when George W. Bush flew a fighter aircraft into Iraq. In the Carolinas (particularly eastern NC) was heavily settled by the Scots. After the King of England defeated Bonnie Prince Charlie, he sent them halfway around the world where they wouldn't cause any more trouble. He also gave them a huge tract of land if they promised to settle it and swear allegiance to the Crown. Flora MacDonald settled in what became Fayetteville, NC. Before the Revolution, it was called Cumberland. During the Revolutionary War, the matriarch of my wife's family (her maiden name was McKay) sent half of her sons to fight for the Loyalists and half to fight for the Revolutionaries. That way, she'd get to keep the land no matter who won. This was a proto-typically American decision before there was even an America. It is called "hedging your bets". The Scots do not like to take any risks (unlike the English, which will bet on anything). That is why they make great lawyers and engineers. There is a reason the engineer on the Starship Enterprise was named "Scottie". Even very recently, the Scottish had a national referendum to take the North Sea Oil with them and leave the UK. They didn't do it, primarily because their pensions were tied up in UK pounds and they did not want to take the risk. Like all Southern boys, we never quit fighting the Civil War. That is because we don't want to see what happened to us to happen to us again. We turn over every possibility. However, the South had to be defeated. It represented the Status Quo and the Northern States represented Innovation. My father, who was from Vandergrift, Pa read a geography book published in the 1850s. The book said 50% of the South's wealth was tied up in slaves. By the 1870s, there was no money tied up in slaves and what was left was cut in value by half in the South. That was because of the destruction caused by the Civil War. The geography book also said that the Northern states had 5 times as much wealth as the Southern States. War was inevitable. My father also said that in the Northern states, people usually settled in neighborhoods where they kept the customs of the "old country", but in the South, because it was rural primarily, people settled together. It was a big "dysfunctional" family. The whites really loved the blacks. That is why there were so many rules against it. Rules are made to be broken, or they wouldn't have been made to start out with. It is unlike the hatred that the Arabs and the Jews have for each other (neither side want the other side to survive). Although there is a lot about the Jim Crow era, this was a throwback before the Civil War era. Neither side wanted to see the other side obliterated. It was like going to the bathroom - you generally go into one marked for your sex and a lot of people in the South had to re-learn that it was not ok to let blacks go to separate toilets, drink from separate water fountains, go to separate schools, etc. The only thing we have going for us is a willingness to follow the dictates of the US Constitution. In it, there is a place for everyone to follow intelligent "self interest" and it will be for the greatest good possible. For instance, there is a section in the US Constitution that states that a Volunteer Army and Gun Rights go hand in hand. The US hasn't had a volunteer army since the end of the Vietnamese War. A professional army has its strengths and weaknesses. The reason it is in the US Constitution is because we were still smarting from having to defeat the British professional army. It is easier to deploy a professional army - the only thing a Commander in Chief needs to do is to deploy it. It is much harder to get the House of Representatives to declare war because they are professional politicians who's main job is to "kick the can" down the road as far as they can so the next person that gets elected will have to deal with it - not them. However, when the House of Representatives finally acts there can only be one outcome. When the last undeclared war was fought (not counting the Gulf of Ton-kin resolution, which has been demonstrated to be fake news), Westmoreland (from SC) was saying to Fritz Hollings (then Senator from SC) that he had achieved a 10 to 1 "kill ratio". Fritz told him "people don't care about the 10, but they care very deeply about the 1". If you aren't willing to take a 1:1 kill ratio, you have no business going to war. President Trump won the election, primarily on immigration. However, the main issue is not immigration, the primary issue is the US is not growing. The US has not been growing for 20 years and will not grow in the next 20 years, unless we do something about it. There are Treasury Department projections, and if we do not do anything, they will come true. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/455083087877898241/471120593698291714/Concerned.docx
[a href="https://discordapp.com/channels/@me/455083087877898241"]Read "Concerned.docx"[/a] South Carolina and the rest of the Deep South actually gets most of its culture and folkways from the slave societies of the West Indies. www.carolana.com/Carolina/External_Influences/barbadians_in_carolana.html North Carolina's dominant culture came from the Tidewater in Virginia. The Scots Irish settled the backcountry of both states as a third group. I will shout out to you on a post I made about the American Nations hypothesis and the proof for it regarding the different cultures dating back to the original settlers of colonial America (the Puritans, Cavaliers, Quakers, Scots Irish, French, Dutch, Barbadians etc.) The settlement you are talking about is the Cape Fear Peninsula by the Highland Scots. Anyways I actually still live in Columbia but am not enamored with it. I really can't wait to leave it for the Lowcountry.
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Post by mazarick on Jul 25, 2018 4:35:42 GMT
SC has three cities - Charleston, Columbia, and Greenville. Everywhere else in a suburb of these three or a very small town - small to the point of vanishing. Most of my mother's folks came from Horry County - Myrtle Beach area. If you go to Charleston (the Low country), even if your great-grandfather was born in Charleston, you will be considered a newcomer. Most non-Southerners do not understand the very complex relations on race. That is why I attempted another comic book recitation of it for a few sentences. Even my own kids believe the Civil War was fought over slavery - and it was; partially. It was fought over money primarily. The greatest good had to happen. In order to save the South, it had to be destroyed and something be born out of the ashes of its defeat. It is possible to see it now after 150 years, but it was impossible to see it during or at the end of the Civil War.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 25, 2018 10:17:19 GMT
SC has three cities - Charleston, Columbia, and Greenville. Everywhere else in a suburb of these three or a very small town - small to the point of vanishing. Most of my mother's folks came from Horry County - Myrtle Beach area. If you go to Charleston (the Low country), even if your great-grandfather was born in Charleston, you will be considered a newcomer. Most non-Southerners do not understand the very complex relations on race. That is why I attempted another comic book recitation of it for a few sentences. Even my own kids believe the Civil War was fought over slavery - and it was; partially. It was fought over money primarily. The greatest good had to happen. In order to save the South, it had to be destroyed and something be born out of the ashes of its defeat. It is possible to see it now after 150 years, but it was impossible to see it during or at the end of the Civil War. I think that history shows that the Civil war was fought for two different reasons, a different reason for each side. The south fought because they believed that Abraham Lincoln and the Republican party was an existential threat to the institution of slavery for which their entire economy, social system, and culture were based upon. The North on the other hand believed that the Union was perpetual and indivisible and fought to save the Union NOT to end slavery. The leaders from both sides gave these as the reasons they were fighting. As for whether the south would be better off if it had won or lost, I think we'll never know. Time will tell whether the Yankees will sink this ship or not. Their immigration policies have been self destructive if anything. If it goes unchecked, the south will be one of the first parts of the country to bear the brunt of it. There may not be a southern culture anymore after the left's insane open border policy is put forth. Would the CSA's immigration policy be this insane? Probably not.
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