Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 5, 2018 8:14:21 GMT
So I was watching this protest where La Raza which is a Mexican nationalist group that wants to take the entire southwest of the United States, cleanse it of the white people and found a new country called Aztlan (because they've run their own country Mexico into the ground.) Anyways one of them were holding a sign that said, "Go back to Europe! Illegal immigrants since 1492." The point being that the Mestizo Mexicans are of (part) indigenous American descent and thus are Native to the continent thus making white people the invaders and illegal immigrants (even though their native ancestors never stepped foot in what is now the United States.) Amusingly a white man retorted, "maybe when I go back to Europe I'll drop you off in Spain!" Anyways, La Raza stupidity aside this does bring up a point that should be considered. Technically, Americans, Australians, New Zealanders, Canadians, many Latin Americans, all of those blacks in the Caribbean and in America are squatting on stolen land. Maybe us white people in the United States (and everybody who isn't native) should go back to the countries for which we came from. Lord knows that the Europeans could sure use some American values of God and liberty and it would do a great deal to help with the demographic displacement in these countries by Muslims. Anyways besides the feasibility of it all do you think that people should go back to their native lands? I think that an infusion of Americans would do nothing but good for Europe personally but I wouldn't want African Americans to suffer in Africa so I don't know...
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 6, 2018 4:09:56 GMT
I wasn't talking so much about race but about culture. Those swarthy Germans eventually accepted the dominant Anglo culture of America and became just as American as the English. I want the Mexicans to become this as well which is easier if we take them in in small chunks rather than in huge mass migrations. This is coming from a descendant of "swarthy Germans" as well. My ancestors are southern German and Swiss. How would you define immigration then? skilled labor, or race, or ethnicity? We should shut down immigration to the United States for now and focus on assimilating the people already have here right now into Anglo American culture. After that we can discuss our criteria for immigrants.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 4:22:33 GMT
How would you define immigration then? skilled labor, or race, or ethnicity? We should shut down immigration to the United States for now and focus on assimilating the people already have here right now into Anglo American culture. After that we can discuss our criteria for immigrants. Ok good, at least, you have said, immigration must be shut down, because, I don't want america to call asian immigrants, because, america was founded by different ethnic groups. But once again, within that, who would be assimilated? Would you agree to assimilate asian people into anglo-american culture? There are many middle eastern also, there.
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 6, 2018 4:25:49 GMT
We should shut down immigration to the United States for now and focus on assimilating the people already have here right now into Anglo American culture. After that we can discuss our criteria for immigrants. Ok good, at least, you have said, immigration must be shut down, because, I don't want america to call asian immigrants, because, america was founded by different ethnic groups. But once again, within that, who would be assimilated? Would you agree to assimilate asian people into anglo-american culture? There are many middle eastern also, there. America was actually founded by mostly British people. I would have all of them adopt our culture. This means that they speak English, adopt western mores, adopt the values spelled out in the Constitution etc.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 6, 2018 5:50:00 GMT
Stationing army at their territories, and then, thinking, they won't retaliate? I don't support religious fanaticism, though, why to place an army at someone's else land? Do the governments of the people really represent the people?
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 6, 2018 5:52:12 GMT
I wasn't talking so much about race but about culture. Those swarthy Germans eventually accepted the dominant Anglo culture of America and became just as American as the English. I want the Mexicans to become this as well which is easier if we take them in in small chunks rather than in huge mass migrations. This is coming from a descendant of "swarthy Germans" as well. My ancestors are southern German and Swiss. How would you define immigration then? skilled labor, or race, or ethnicity? I would say immigration should be regulated based on economic necessity. If the economy cannot handle an influx of immigrants, don’t allow immigration. Put your own workforce to work, if you need more workers, allow for immigration, then apply what Clovis is saying.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2018 6:15:55 GMT
Stationing army at their territories, and then, thinking, they won't retaliate? I don't support religious fanaticism, though, why to place an army at someone's else land? Do the governments of the people really represent the people? I was talking about governments, but, this post is related with common folks. All the citizens are being termed as colonizer.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 6, 2018 21:19:09 GMT
The fact is that many modern Mexicans of European origin but the problem is different..if you say that native Americans are also migrants, like the pale-faced Yankees and Dixie, then why are right Americans opposed to any migration to the United States? In this regard, I think we can approve of mass emigration to the United States, is not it? First I'm not saying that Native Americans aren't native to this land, DKTrav88 just mentioned that they originally come from Siberia. Obviously those who get to the land first is Native or nobody is native to anywhere. I'm simply saying that its not racist to point out the absolute fact that Native Americans originally came to Siberia, nothing more as you'd say. As for why we oppose mass migration from Mexico, well its pretty simple. Those pale face Yankees and Dixies are the founders of the United States of America. It was them who wrote the constitution, wrote the laws, built the architecture, created the culture, cuisine, the economic system, the military and police structure and pretty much everything that the United States is and ever was. Under that European derived culture the United States became the richest, most powerful superpower on planet earth, and a first world democracy where we enjoy liberties not enjoyed by anyone else. In contrast the Mexican culture built Mexico into what it is today, that is to say a shitehole run by drug lords. The argument for limiting immigration to the United States is so our successful American culture isn't supplanted by a less successful backwards culture from Latin America or somewhere else so we don't lose what we have. My position is that we should limit immigration from other countries so that we can assimilate new immigrants to our culture effectively. Are you afraid the Mexicans will take over the US? Anyway, I see that Mexicans are very active in North America.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 6, 2018 21:23:47 GMT
How would you define immigration then? skilled labor, or race, or ethnicity? We should shut down immigration to the United States for now and focus on assimilating the people already have here right now into Anglo American culture. After that we can discuss our criteria for immigrants. I think that this view is not very popular in the United States as a whole... your opponents will say that America is founded by migrants and is open to them always and everywhere!
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 7, 2018 2:54:56 GMT
First I'm not saying that Native Americans aren't native to this land, DKTrav88 just mentioned that they originally come from Siberia. Obviously those who get to the land first is Native or nobody is native to anywhere. I'm simply saying that its not racist to point out the absolute fact that Native Americans originally came to Siberia, nothing more as you'd say. As for why we oppose mass migration from Mexico, well its pretty simple. Those pale face Yankees and Dixies are the founders of the United States of America. It was them who wrote the constitution, wrote the laws, built the architecture, created the culture, cuisine, the economic system, the military and police structure and pretty much everything that the United States is and ever was. Under that European derived culture the United States became the richest, most powerful superpower on planet earth, and a first world democracy where we enjoy liberties not enjoyed by anyone else. In contrast the Mexican culture built Mexico into what it is today, that is to say a shitehole run by drug lords. The argument for limiting immigration to the United States is so our successful American culture isn't supplanted by a less successful backwards culture from Latin America or somewhere else so we don't lose what we have. My position is that we should limit immigration from other countries so that we can assimilate new immigrants to our culture effectively. Are you afraid the Mexicans will take over the US? Anyway, I see that Mexicans are very active in North America. If the democrats have their way and we have open borders, the entirety of Latin America is going to enter our country and the USA will for all intents and purposes cease to exist. The danger immigration poses to our country cannot be understated. White Americans by and large vote republican in my country so democrats encourage immigration both legal and illegal because newcomer immigrants from third world countries vote democrat because of the democrat's mastery of identity politics and government handouts. If we don't stop immigration to our country now and the immigration level reaches to a point that parties don't need the white vote anymore we would have a one party state ruled by democrats. The democrats are now moving in the direction of genuine socialism. That didn't work so good in Venezuela or literally any other country its been tried in, so yeah. I'm basically a one issue voter. Whoever stops immigration and secures our borders I vote for. That's why I voted for Trump.
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Post by MEGA on Jul 7, 2018 2:57:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 3:01:12 GMT
We should shut down immigration to the United States for now and focus on assimilating the people already have here right now into Anglo American culture. After that we can discuss our criteria for immigrants. I think that this view is not very popular in the United States as a whole... your opponents will say that America is founded by migrants and is open to them always and everywhere! The response of alt-left people, and also corporate chieftans. I would be very happy, if right wing of america can do this. But is Mr Trump, really doing this?
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Clovis Merovingian
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 7, 2018 3:03:42 GMT
We should shut down immigration to the United States for now and focus on assimilating the people already have here right now into Anglo American culture. After that we can discuss our criteria for immigrants. I think that this view is not very popular in the United States as a whole... your opponents will say that America is founded by migrants and is open to them always and everywhere! Yes, there is this persistent "nation of immigrants" myth started by that Massachusetts whore John F. Kennedy. JFK should speak for himself; his ancestors may have been immigrants from Ireland fleeing the fact that the Irish apparently don't know how to grow any other crop but potatoes but my ancestors were not immigrants. The people who founded and settled the original thirteen colonies of the United States who set the culture of what the USA was to become didn't immigrate from one society to another but instead created a new society from the wilderness. These people are settlers not immigrants. That doesn't mean the people who immigrated later are not just as American as the settlers but the country was NOT founded as a nation of immigrants.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 7, 2018 3:05:49 GMT
I think that this view is not very popular in the United States as a whole... your opponents will say that America is founded by migrants and is open to them always and everywhere! The response of alt-left people, and also corporate chieftans. I would be very happy, if right wing of america can do this. But is Mr Trump, really doing this? You are right, democrats want votes, corporations want cheap labor. Neither cares about the people already living here.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2018 3:09:20 GMT
The response of alt-left people, and also corporate chieftans. I would be very happy, if right wing of america can do this. But is Mr Trump, really doing this? You are right, democrats want votes, corporations want cheap labor. Neither cares about the people already living here. These cheap labors are from asia, who work for 18 hours in day, as they are raised in this manner, to send money back home. This is all a big game.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 7, 2018 3:17:41 GMT
You are right, democrats want votes, corporations want cheap labor. Neither cares about the people already living here. These cheap labors are from asia, who work for 18 hours in day, as they are raised in this manner, to send money back home. This is all a big game. And the Mexican labor in the fields picking oranges and other crops. They also send money home. The agribusiness corporations want this inefficient style of labor because it costs less than mechanizing their operation. Everyone talks about how without the Mexicans the crops will rot in the field and how Americans won't do these jobs. No, Americans won't do these jobs for near slave wages like the Mexicans and there are these thing called "machines" that will actually harvest the crop more efficiently if the corporate heads weren't so laughably cheap.
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