Siluk
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Ethnicity: Turk
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Hero: Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 24, 2018 21:01:35 GMT
This is literally the situation I did not expect... Erdoğan has won without even going to the 2nd round, he was up against very great opposition.
To start off, he rigged it, there are videos of them even being caught.
Now, let us get into how the elections work here, you have the 1st part of elections, if a candidate gets over 50% vote he will win without going into the 2nd part. If nobody gets over 50%, then 2 of the highest voted candidates go to the 2nd round and then one of them comes out on top.
Erdoğan has won with somewhat around 52%. He has made a speech without the results fully coming in.
This is bad, I hate this, it is the stupidest shit that has happened, he rigged it and not only that, people are STILL voting for him. He is Islamist, he is ruining our beautiful secular country and he is also driving the economy to the ground. I don't want to live here anymore but I don't want to leave. Fuck this.
Atatürk may have died about 80 years ago, but we've buried him today.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 24, 2018 21:14:21 GMT
Does Turkey have an alternative to it?If there is what they are?
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 24, 2018 21:45:54 GMT
Does Turkey have an alternative to it?If there is what they are? Alternative to what?
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 24, 2018 21:50:35 GMT
Does Turkey have an alternative to it?If there is what they are? Alternative to what? Besides Erdogan or Gulen, what other political forces are there in Turkey ?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 24, 2018 21:53:20 GMT
So wait the proof is there but the people are ignoring it?
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 24, 2018 21:56:44 GMT
So wait the proof is there but the people are ignoring it? They aren't really ignoring, it has been brought up and AKP (Erdoğan's party) answered and said that there is no proof.
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 24, 2018 21:59:32 GMT
Besides Erdogan or Gulen, what other political forces are there in Turkey ? You're out of the loop mate, VERY much out of the loop CHP = the current head of it is Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu but their candidate was Muharrem İnce İYİ Parti = Head and candidate is Meral Akşener, this party is the newest party, was founded back in late 2017. Saadet Partisi = Head and candidate is Karamollaoğlu Vatan Partisi = Forgot their head and candidate. HDP = Head and candidate is in jail currently, Selahattin Demirtaş, Kurdish party. Demokrat Partisi = forgot head and candidate.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 24, 2018 22:04:40 GMT
Kurdish party? what about their infringements in modern Turkey?
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 24, 2018 23:33:45 GMT
Kurdish party? what about their infringements in modern Turkey? What infringements?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 25, 2018 2:07:19 GMT
With stuff like this going on it's sometimes pointless to even vote Shrug
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 25, 2018 2:23:41 GMT
With stuff like this going on it's sometimes pointless to even vote Shrug Most elections are rigged/predetermined
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 25, 2018 8:20:04 GMT
Kurdish party? what about their infringements in modern Turkey? What infringements? I say about that Turkey (Erdogan) is accused of the genocide of the Kurds.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 12:55:15 GMT
Διαμονδ the Kurds who are not buddies with the PKK are doing fine in Turkey, just like any other ethnic group. I don't know who accuses Turkey for a genocide of Kurds, and on what basis. If that is connected to the recent offensive on Afrin and fights between the Turkish Army and Kurdish YPG, it's a result of the supposed cooperation between the latter and PKK. So, if you're a Kurd in Turkey and live you life like everyone else, you'll be fine. But if you grab a gun, produce explosives and go to Istanbul's airport to blow yourself up to kill the civilians, then don't be surprised there will be a response. As far as I know, the Turks - in general - supported Erdogan regardless of their political and ideological sympathies when he decided to attack the Kurds from Rojava. But what genocide? Who says that?
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 25, 2018 13:45:57 GMT
Currently I am devastated, he had amazing opposition, sometimes I want to hate my own people.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 14:09:01 GMT
Currently I am devastated, he had amazing opposition, sometimes I want to hate my own people. It's only Erdogan with his party. The man from your avatar had the whole Ottoman Empire with its allies against himself and he was successful.
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