albi
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Post by albi on Jun 22, 2018 3:14:20 GMT
Just want to know what you all think of the current situation involving President Trump, and the supposed separation of families at the border
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 22, 2018 3:18:33 GMT
I think it's sad. Too many children get separated from their parents. What are your thoughts on this albi?
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 23, 2018 12:27:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2018 15:06:40 GMT
I don't know what's this about, as I don't follow the American news. Why would I?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 26, 2018 8:11:38 GMT
Isn't he claiming it's the Democrats doing and not his?
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Post by AmericanCharm on Jun 26, 2018 9:07:57 GMT
If you don’t want to get separated from your kids, don’t cross the border illegally. If you illegally entered another country, you’d expect to be subject to their laws.
They are breaking our laws and pose a much more significant threat than many realize. I am talking about demographic replacement, depressing wages for low skilled American workers, receiving 10 of billions of dollars in government benefits, bringing gang violence, and more.
Keeping families together can prove difficult. In order to keep families together you would either need to put children in with their parents in an adult criminal population or put these parents in a juvenile crimnal facility with their kids. The result would be children being exposed to gang members, drug mules, murderers and other criminals crossing the border.
Another thing is many of the kids are not blood related to the adults they are with, but are being used by asylum seekers. Many of the kids are wandering around in the blistering heat, starving, dehydrated, many of them sexually abused by their escorts, many already separated from their parents. Our people take them in give them medicine, water, food, shelter, in our facilities.
Sneak into Mexico with one of your kids today and see what happens, temporary separation would be the least of your worries. Mexico's immigration laws are significantly harsher than the U.S, if it was an American sneaking into Mexico and they got caught, it would be an automatic minimum 5 year federal prison sentence.
If they want to keep the confirmed families together fine. Then boot them all out at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 12:36:27 GMT
Abort and Deport, that's all there is to it. They don't belong here and they shouldn't have the same rights as American citizens.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2018 18:23:40 GMT
The rhetorical situation.
If Trump had accepted loyal program, he would have been accused in letting putanas, crimes, and rapers to the puritan USA.
But He didn't do it, and now they say that 'there are children'.
Yes, it is pretty bad, that statistics rule over the laws, but when the majority of citizens has accepted it, it can be turned off just like this.
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Post by huewyatt on Jul 3, 2018 9:00:53 GMT
its all political theater. The situation was known to exist long before yet only after the IG report released did the medai act like the holocaust just happened again.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 3, 2018 9:06:04 GMT
its all political theater. The situation was known to exist long before yet only after the IG report released did the medai act like the holocaust just happened again. You mean even if trump didn't become president it was going to exist? |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 3, 2018 9:09:20 GMT
its all political theater. The situation was known to exist long before yet only after the IG report released did the medai act like the holocaust just happened again. You mean even if trump didn't become president it was going to exist? It's just system...not man! Shrug |
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Post by AmericanCharm on Jul 3, 2018 10:12:12 GMT
You mean even if trump didn't become president it was going to exist? It's just system...not man!  Far more families were detained and separated under Obama but it wasn’t 90,000, that is an exaggeration. But both sides do that, beef up numbers. But under Obama once the families were detained they were given asylum hearings. 90% of the cases didn’t meet the criteria. So they were given notices to appear at an immigration field office near their provided residences in the U.S. and were released and told to report to the nearest ICE field office within 14 days. Few of them show up. Many were giving addresses that were drop houses, fake addresses their smugglers gave them, or family addresses of which they weren’t staying. They dispersed all over the country. So now right now what they are doing to keep families together is they are being housed on a military base set up as a camp. Which takes a lot of resources, and lot of people get detailed there. Now this encourages more to come over because they know they are going to this camp together and doing their 3 weeks and then they get released. Many of them are from Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. It’s a very complicated process to send those specific people back. More complicated than Mexicans. It costs tens of thousands of dollars. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jul 3, 2018 11:45:45 GMT
It's just system...not man! Far more families were detained and separated under Obama but it wasn’t 90,000, that is an exaggeration. But both sides do that, beef up numbers. But under Obama once the families were detained they were given asylum hearings. 90% of the cases didn’t meet the criteria. So they were given notices to appear at an immigration field office near their provided residences in the U.S. and were released and told to report to the nearest ICE field office within 14 days. Few of them show up. Many were giving addresses that were drop houses, fake addresses their smugglers gave them, or family addresses of which they weren’t staying. They dispersed all over the country. So now right now what they are doing to keep families together is they are being housed on a military base set up as a camp. Which takes a lot of resources, and lot of people get detailed there. Now this encourages more to come over because they know they are going to this camp together and doing their 3 weeks and then they get released. Many of them are from Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. It’s a very complicated process to send those specific people back. More complicated than Mexicans. It costs tens of thousands of dollars. Did Obama do PR on this topic ? How did he justify that?  I don't recall. |
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Post by AmericanCharm on Jul 3, 2018 20:50:26 GMT
Far more families were detained and separated under Obama but it wasn’t 90,000, that is an exaggeration. But both sides do that, beef up numbers. But under Obama once the families were detained they were given asylum hearings. 90% of the cases didn’t meet the criteria. So they were given notices to appear at an immigration field office near their provided residences in the U.S. and were released and told to report to the nearest ICE field office within 14 days. Few of them show up. Many were giving addresses that were drop houses, fake addresses their smugglers gave them, or family addresses of which they weren’t staying. They dispersed all over the country. So now right now what they are doing to keep families together is they are being housed on a military base set up as a camp. Which takes a lot of resources, and lot of people get detailed there. Now this encourages more to come over because they know they are going to this camp together and doing their 3 weeks and then they get released. Many of them are from Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras. It’s a very complicated process to send those specific people back. More complicated than Mexicans. It costs tens of thousands of dollars. Did Obama do PR on this topic ? How did he justify that? I don't recall. He did not, Obama was a master at deflecting and avoiding talking about his mistakes. Take into account most of the mainstream media behind him it made it much easier for him. |
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Post by treez on Jul 3, 2018 21:09:31 GMT
I think it was the most ridiculous idea in the history of ridiculous ideas, maybe ever.
Imagine yourself, adrift in the Mediterranean Sea.
Clutching the trunk of a floating tree as you made your way with the tide to the mainland.
Your husband is sweaty and frozen to the bone, paler than casper on the whitey
Your child is even worse, at approximately 33.3% of the size
The statistics show she would have resembled an ice cube, and I don't mean the guy from NWA
Finally, you get your feet on the soil, and throw the tree aside like a raging mammoth
You're all several degrees below zero, but you're safe now
From the troubles back in the motherland
And you make your way humbly towards your nearest immigration official
Because even being legally classed as an "alien" for a brief period
Is better than being blown into meatloaf by a religious extremist wearing a napkin as a headband
Naturally, after your harsh pilgrimidge, your child has suffered far worse
Beyond the fact she's frozen and scared, the psychological damage would be profound
She would need to be comforted and safe with her parents
But, because of some ginger, right wing racist
That floats about in a bulletproof chevrolet with machine gun mounts
Never had a hard day in his life, yet decided to pretend he knew about the struggle people go through in that situation
(The same man who built a war memorial on one of his golf courses that didn't even happen where he built the monument)
She now has to go to some sort of detainment facility
Filled with strange kids of varying backgrounds. It would have been a devastating experience
And i think in the latter day something america would look back on and realise where things started going wrong with mr bombabomb
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