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Post by Mortimer on Jun 8, 2018 3:30:15 GMT
In the late 1880s, Swedish archaeologists excavated a well-furnished 10th century Viking burial site where they discovered the skeletal remains of a warrior. Cradled against a sword, the mysterious Viking was entombed with all the equipment required for battle, including a spear, an axe, armor-piercing arrows, shields, two horses, and gaming pieces, which suggested to the archaeologists that the Viking was a high-ranking military strategist. For decades, experts assumed this grave contained the remains of a man. It wasn’t until multiple independent investigations reported the skeleton was female that modern scholars attempted a DNA analysis to know for sure. Researchers analyzed DNA samples from the Viking’s teeth and arm bone, but could not detect any trace of a Y chromosome: this warrior was a woman. Their work also revealed the northern European ancestry of the Viking and uncovered her mitochondrial haplogroup, T2b. Both you and this viking warrior are descendants of a woman who lived in Europe around 10,000 years ago at the end of the ice age and the beginning of the Neolithic Revolution.  |
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 8, 2018 3:34:05 GMT
It was a female that's so cool  What test is this that you did, Mortimer? |
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Post by Mortimer on Jun 8, 2018 3:36:02 GMT
It was a female that's so cool What test is this that you did, Mortimer? 23andme |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:19:22 GMT
This is indeed interesting. But how can you get indo-brachid, because, you have no indian mtDNA, and if I am not wrong, paternal is alpine medditerenean, which is central asian.
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Post by Mortimer on Jun 8, 2018 4:29:11 GMT
This is indeed interesting. But how can you get indo-brachid, because, you have no indian mtDNA, and if I am not wrong, paternal is alpine medditerenean, which is central asian. This mtdna originated in westerneuroasia with the indo-europeans but spread also to india, there are a few indians with this mtdna but likely its european. anyways mtdna is only very small part of your genome, like 0.1% so it could date back hundreds of years if it remained on the maternal direct side, but im zero northern european autosomally well 1-2% only. Im mostly southern european and 20-30% southasian. I dont say im fully indobrachid but with autosomall 20-30% indian i can be part indo-brachid and my mum is likely 60% indian like those dudes i posted. check my results and that of two full gypsies my mum would likely score like them since she is almost full gypsy. www.the.com/forum/showthread.php?245895-Gypsy-Gedmatch-Results-I-use-Gedrosia-K6-and-K3&highlight=gypsy+gedmatchMy mum what do you think she looks like?  And no my other side isnt central asian but southeastern european. Balkan Slavic. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:34:19 GMT
This is indeed interesting. But how can you get indo-brachid, because, you have no indian mtDNA, and if I am not wrong, paternal is alpine medditerenean, which is central asian. This mtdna originated in westerneuroasia with the indo-europeans but spread also to india, there are a few indians with this mtdna but likely its european. anyways mtdna is only very small part of your genome, like 0.1% so it could date back hundreds of years if it remained on the maternal direct side, but im zero northern european autosomally well 1-2% only. Im mostly southern european and 20-30% southasian. I dont say im fully indobrachid but with autosomall 20-30% indian i can be part indo-brachid and my mum is likely 60% indian like those dudes i posted. check my results and that of two full gypsies my mum would likely score like them since she is almost full gypsy. www.the.com/forum/showthread.php?245895-Gypsy-Gedmatch-Results-I-use-Gedrosia-K6-and-K3&highlight=gypsy+gedmatchMy mum what do you think she looks like? And no my other side isnt central asian but southeastern european. Balkan Slavic. nah, no chance of your mum being INDIC or gypsy. We have dalits in india, who share same ancestry with gypsies. Actually, vedic brahmans/lords outcasted these people, long time back. And the central asian aryans, who invaded subcontinent went on to become vedic brahmanslords here. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.html |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:36:39 GMT
This mtdna originated in westerneuroasia with the indo-europeans but spread also to india, there are a few indians with this mtdna but likely its european.And they are known as brahmans in India, though, now, most of these brahmans are getting extinct, some are mixed also, but originally, brahmans of india were known as foreign tribes. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC311057/ The distance between Europeans and lower castes is larger than the distance between Europeans and upper castes, but the distance between Europeans and middle castes is smaller than the upper caste-European distance. These trends are the same whether the Kshatriya and Vysya are included in the upper castes, the middle castes, or excluded from the analysis. This may be owing, in part, to the small sample size (n = 10) of each of these castes. Among the upper castes the genetic distance between Brahmins and Europeans (0.10) is smaller than that between either the Kshatriya and Europeans (0.12) or the Vysya and Europeans (0.16). Assuming that contemporary Europeans reflect West Eurasian affinities, these data indicate that the amount of West Eurasian admixture with Indian populations may have been proportionate to caste rank.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:53:13 GMT
//but im zero northern european autosomally well 1-2% onlyEvident, because, no NORDIC features, so tehcnically that's out.
. Im mostly southern european and 20-30% southasian.
Dinarid component, true, and on south asian, that could be due to denisovan onedio.co/content/20-strange-mythological-creatures-from-around-the-world-11297overall, test results are correct, however, more on alpine-medditerenean, not indo brachid. indo brachids are punjabis, gujratis, rajasthani etc in India. We call them useless breeds here. 
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:54:04 GMT
Your results are giving me more insights
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Post by Mortimer on Jun 8, 2018 5:03:35 GMT
//but im zero northern european autosomally well 1-2% onlyEvident, because, no NORDIC features, so tehcnically that's out.
. Im mostly southern european and 20-30% southasian.
Dinarid component, true, and on south asian, that could be due to denisovan onedio.co/content/20-strange-mythological-creatures-from-around-the-world-11297overall, test results are correct, however, more on alpine-medditerenean, not indo brachid. indo brachids are punjabis, gujratis, rajasthani etc in India. We call them useless breeds here.  Dude I think you are bit comical. Denisovans are not humans even, and have nothing to do with southasians. Well all humans some denisovan and neanderthal, but its like saying its due to neanderthal. Neanderthals and Denisovans dont exist anymore. Thats weird what you said. I think Im a bit indobrachid and indid in my features. Indid and Indobrachid are common phenotypes in India. Indobrachid is very common all over india. Its not restricted to a certain region it can exist everywhere.  But lets not talk about it, my classification stays like it is in my profile. We can discuss the viking warrior instead. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 5:06:32 GMT
//but im zero northern european autosomally well 1-2% onlyEvident, because, no NORDIC features, so tehcnically that's out.
. Im mostly southern european and 20-30% southasian.
Dinarid component, true, and on south asian, that could be due to denisovan onedio.co/content/20-strange-mythological-creatures-from-around-the-world-11297overall, test results are correct, however, more on alpine-medditerenean, not indo brachid. indo brachids are punjabis, gujratis, rajasthani etc in India. We call them useless breeds here. Dude I think you are bit comical. Denisovans are not humans even, and have nothing to do with southasians. Well all humans some denisovan and neanderthal, but its like saying its due to neanderthal. Neanderthals and Denisovans dont exist anymore. Thats weird what you said. I think Im a bit indobrachid and indid in my features. Indid and Indobrachid are common phenotypes in India. Indobrachid is very common all over india. Its not restricted to a certain region it can exist everywhere. But lets not talk about it, my classification stays like it is in my profile. We can discuss the viking warrior instead. Yeah, let's not discuss it . Yeah, that was bit comical, and thanks for the correction. That was a mistake. I will read more about this T2b haplogroup. But, your analysis is very very interesting. |
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Post by Mortimer on Jun 8, 2018 5:07:21 GMT
This mtdna originated in westerneuroasia with the indo-europeans but spread also to india, there are a few indians with this mtdna but likely its european. anyways mtdna is only very small part of your genome, like 0.1% so it could date back hundreds of years if it remained on the maternal direct side, but im zero northern european autosomally well 1-2% only. Im mostly southern european and 20-30% southasian. I dont say im fully indobrachid but with autosomall 20-30% indian i can be part indo-brachid and my mum is likely 60% indian like those dudes i posted. check my results and that of two full gypsies my mum would likely score like them since she is almost full gypsy. www.the.com/forum/showthread.php?245895-Gypsy-Gedmatch-Results-I-use-Gedrosia-K6-and-K3&highlight=gypsy+gedmatchMy mum what do you think she looks like? And no my other side isnt central asian but southeastern european. Balkan Slavic. nah, no chance of your mum being INDIC or gypsy. We have dalits in india, who share same ancestry with gypsies. Actually, vedic brahmans/lords outcasted these people, long time back. And the central asian aryans, who invaded subcontinent went on to become vedic brahmanslords here. www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/9719058/European-Roma-descended-from-Indian-untouchables-genetic-study-shows.htmldude, my mum is a stereotype gypsy. and there are many dalits who look like her or similar and who could be gypsies. yes gypsies are dalits from pakistan and northindia, the dom people. dom caste, indo-aryan caste of untouchables. not only brahmins are indo-aryans. actually there are brahmins who are not aryans, like tamil brahmins. he could be a gypsy and resembles my uncle (mums cousin) edition.cnn.com/2017/07/20/asia/kovind-india-dalit-president/index.html mums cousin with his wife  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 5:12:19 GMT
dude, my mum is a stereotype gypsy. and there are many dalits who look like her or similar and who could be gypsies. yes gypsies are dalits from pakistan and northindia, the dom people. dom caste, indo-aryan caste of untouchables. not only brahmins are indo-aryans. actually there are brahmins who are not aryans, like tamil brahmins. he could be a gypsy and resembles my uncle (mums cousin) edition.cnn.com/2017/07/20/asia/kovind-india-dalit-president/index.htmlmums cousin with his wife yes, the currect indian president is a dalit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 5:13:10 GMT
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Post by Mortimer on Jun 8, 2018 5:14:37 GMT
I read once that indo-europeans are older then the caste system in india. This is quiete racist eurocentric what you said. Maybe you are not aware. I think the indo-europeans came to india but there was no caste system only after all were mixed, the caste system was established and is a more recent phenomenon
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