Clovis Merovingian
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Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
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Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 31
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 28, 2018 3:39:14 GMT
In the south we have kind of a cultural cult around the Lost Cause of the Confederacy or basically the south's defeat in the Civil War by the Union. Most people I think living here see the Confederate States defeat as a huge tragedy and if they could change history would have the south win the war. So are there any lost causes that you sympathize with? Basically are there any wars or uprisings, political movements etc that you believe should have won their struggle but quite sadly lost it completely?
For me obviously as a southerner there's the Confederate defeat in the Civil War but I think another huge one for me is the Battle of Hastings. Basically Anglo Saxon culture in the form it had taken throughout history until then died at the hands of William the Conqueror. It took a very Scandinavian type of culture of a free people and put them under a Norman feudal tyranny changing English society, language, and culture in a way that I hate. I sympathize with the Lost Cause of the Anglo Saxons against the Normans at Hastings.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jun 16, 2018 11:34:38 GMT
I'd like to hear the evidence that supports the claim of Hitler's insanity. If you've read Hitler's work and his talks than you would understand that by any common heuristic(al) standard the conclusions he came to about nature, society, etc. -- which are based on real world experience especially during his years of poverty in Vienna, and deep study into the issues he identified -- are completely natural and are shared even by non-national socialists and by extension non-fascists. Thanks. Wanting to win a World War and get living space for Germans Give Ukrainians the same hell they recieved from the Soviets even though they'd be willing to fight with you against the Russians. Believe you actually could push further into Russia when your men are freezing to death instead of digging in and waiting for winter to pass. Hitler was a good speech giver, but an insane and dumb tactician. Totally agree with the last sentence |
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blueroad
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Post by blueroad on Jun 16, 2018 12:09:17 GMT
I'd like to hear the evidence that supports the claim of Hitler's insanity. If you've read Hitler's work and his talks than you would understand that by any common heuristic(al) standard the conclusions he came to about nature, society, etc. -- which are based on real world experience especially during his years of poverty in Vienna, and deep study into the issues he identified -- are completely natural and are shared even by non-national socialists and by extension non-fascists. Thanks. Wanting to win a World War and get living space for Germans Give Ukrainians the same hell they recieved from the Soviets even though they'd be willing to fight with you against the Russians. Believe you actually could push further into Russia when your men are freezing to death instead of digging in and waiting for winter to pass. Hitler was a good speech giver, but an insane and dumb tactician. Lebensraum was not pursued by Hitler literally for living space. The main goal of the plan was to secure the vital natural resources that Germany lacked for the war effort,which were located in the Caucuses and the Russian Far West. While I may agree that getting into a war while severely lacking necessary resources for the war effort was probably not the best strategic decision, morally, the action was perfectly justified in my opinion after the failed attempts at peaceful acquisition of Danzig. Quite a few of the major blunders during the turning point were actually instances where Hitler's generals decided to ignore his orders, for example, the attack Stalingrad in an effort to crush Soviet morale(which admittedly worked in France) rather than acquiesce the oil fields in the Caucuses as Hitler had ordered. There is a pretty little-known Hitler quote that I will paraphrase, it goes something along the lines of his generals not understand the reasoning and importance of their escapades in the Soviet Union(resources) As for the acts of desperation after the turning point like the do not retreat order, I tend to agree and cannot personally rationalize this decision. Hitler certainly was not perfect, and certainly not the best tactician, but to use these instances as a charge against his sanity is wrong in my opinion. We can find many mistakes similar in nature in almost any nation, perpetuated by people who were perfectly fine mentally. |
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 16, 2018 18:49:39 GMT
@unknown That was my point. Hitler shat on them when they actually felt a common feeling of hate and will to fight the Soviets.
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blueroad
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Post by blueroad on Jun 16, 2018 23:28:32 GMT
I'd like to hear the evidence that supports the claim of Hitler's insanity. If you've read Hitler's work and his talks than you would understand that by any common heuristic(al) standard the conclusions he came to about nature, society, etc. -- which are based on real world experience especially during his years of poverty in Vienna, and deep study into the issues he identified -- are completely natural and are shared even by non-national socialists and by extension non-fascists. Thanks. Genocides. Siluk , but you know that Ukrainian nationalists sympathized with the Nazis for some time, right? By that standard, every major power was ran by an insane person. The saturation of German citizenry by allied bombs, Dresden being a major standout. |
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Post by fschmidt on Jun 18, 2018 6:45:25 GMT
I wish the jews would have revolted against Ezra and killed him. Here the Israelite religion was the lost cause which was replaced by Judaism thanks to Ezra.
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Brythonic Warrior
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Post by Brythonic Warrior on Jun 18, 2018 15:01:50 GMT
Yes. I believe in what Sir Oswald Mosley wanted to achieve for the British nation, he and the British Union of Fascists.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2018 18:42:18 GMT
Siluk, all the time I refer to the ethnic cleansing commited by the Ukrainians on Poles and other nationalities, who were simply civilians. It's known as "Volhynian massacre". Even if you'd look on Wikipedia you still have a translation of this event in other languages as either something similar to what I wrote, or some kind of "Volhynian slaughter". Only in the Ukrainian language you have euphemistic "Volhynian tragedy". Tragedy is when two cars crash, not when people fighting for their freedom are focused on killing civilians, but every time they see the Soviets, Germans or Poles equipped in weapons they run away. Διαμονδ, well, being against the Soviets is pretty much good reason. But sure, there were plenty of Ukrainians who supported it. I guess we still see the shadow of these events in this division between Eastern and Western Ukraine. Yes, there were many, mainly in the West side of Dnipro. I've heard of from a few war witnesses that in the West Bandera's thugs murdered soldiers from Eastern Ukraine. So, I'd call them psychoes, rather than rebellians. |
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blueroad
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Post by blueroad on Jun 18, 2018 20:52:28 GMT
Siluk they were not only against the Soviets. Their fighters were basically against everyone. blueroad feel free to check the definition of genocide. Oh, I see, you believe in the Holohoax, even though all of the evidence is hearsay and discredited/inconsistent eye witness testimony  |
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Siluk
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Post by Siluk on Jun 19, 2018 18:53:20 GMT
@unknown And all this time I was referring to Holodomor. That's why Ukrainians had a reason to fight against the Soviets with the Nazis but that didn't happen because Hitler fucked up.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 19, 2018 23:34:23 GMT
@unknown And all this time I was referring to Holodomor. That's why Ukrainians had a reason to fight against the Soviets with the Nazis but that didn't happen because Hitler fucked up. Hunger is mostly a product of the imagination of pseudo-historians working for Western intelligence agencies, and many photos of this hunger are fake. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 19, 2018 23:36:35 GMT
Siluk , all the time I refer to the ethnic cleansing commited by the Ukrainians on Poles and other nationalities, who were simply civilians. It's known as "Volhynian massacre". Even if you'd look on Wikipedia you still have a translation of this event in other languages as either something similar to what I wrote, or some kind of "Volhynian slaughter". Only in the Ukrainian language you have euphemistic "Volhynian tragedy". Tragedy is when two cars crash, not when people fighting for their freedom are focused on killing civilians, but every time they see the Soviets, Germans or Poles equipped in weapons they run away. Διαμονδ , well, being against the Soviets is pretty much good reason. But sure, there were plenty of Ukrainians who supported it. I guess we still see the shadow of these events in this division between Eastern and Western Ukraine. Yes, there were many, mainly in the West side of Dnipro. I've heard of from a few war witnesses that in the West Bandera's thugs murdered soldiers from Eastern Ukraine. So, I'd call them psychoes, rather than rebellians. Bandera fired houses Ukrainians from Western Ukraine, too! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2018 8:09:09 GMT
Siluk, Hitler never had a goal in befriending the Ukrainians for real - it was temporary. Some kind of trickery that convinced the Ukrainian nationalists that Hitler is a good guy - I'd say it's them who fucked up. And they had their share of insanity too.
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