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Post by Sir Will Swag on May 13, 2018 11:21:25 GMT
Red fascism is a pejorative term used to describe Stalinism and Maoism as being similar to fascism. Accusations that the leaders of the Soviet Union during the Stalinist period acted as "Red Fascists" were commonly stated by Trotskyists, left communists, social democrats, democratic socialists and anarchists, as well as among right-wing circles.
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Post by Διαμονδ on May 13, 2018 11:41:22 GMT
No, because fascism was in Italy and it is characteristic of capitalist countries!
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Post by AmericanCharm on May 13, 2018 12:03:01 GMT
No no, Marxist-Leninism is the specific form of socialism, that the Fascists were against, they seem to be against because it's materialist, whereas fascism is immaterialist. In Marxist-Leninism the transcendent is ignored and people are defined by their economic activity (you are, the Proletariat, Bourgeois, or Petite-Bourgeois. All definitions determined by what kind of economic activity you engage in. Fascists believe in the ineffable worth of the peoples of a nation, and seek to create a meritocratic nation where people engage in whatever is appropriate to their desire and aptitudes. Fascists also believe that Marxists promote class conflict, whereas Fascist Corporatists try to promote class collusion (State reps, Industrialists and Workers colluding).
One of the two major Fascist economic theories was Corporatism. They believed it had the positive aspects of Capitalism like private ownership, private enterprise, competition, wage labor. However, the major principle of Capitalism is that the end goal is simply profit for the entrepreneurs. The theory is that the end goal of profit for them will create benefit for all. Italian Fascist Corporatism, on the other hand, posits that the good of society as a whole must be considered before profit. Everything is to benefit the nation. It’s about self sufficiency. Which is why it is a system that mixes well with Nationalism.
Fascists are against Capitalism because it's such a powerful force for shaping our psychology and society. Along with the economic inequities that capitalism creates. The Fascists believe Capitalism creates a culture of materialism, consumerism, and careerism (which can be seen in every country in the 20th century that underwent rapid capitalist transformation like Japan, Singapore, South Korea, Qatar and UAE). Marketing, businesses under capitalism, and the profit driven media are viewed as fostering our vices, eradicatining both traditionalism and numbing the higher needs of humanity for growth and positive contribution.
Mussolini claimed that Italian Fascism's economic system of corporatism could be identified as either state capitalism or state socialism, which in either case involved "the bureaucratisation of the economic activities of the nation. Economically Fascism values state control or influence over the markets. The fact they were authoritarian and centralized government is really where the comparisons should start and stop.
I personally consider my self a Nationalist, who tends to lean towards Fascism and Right Wing Populism as my political ideologies. Certainly more so than Capitalism or Communism.
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Post by fashtag on May 13, 2018 12:38:26 GMT
It had some things in common with fascism but I think the supposed different goals is enough to differentiate them. The Soviet Union had a dictator and a brutal totalitarian government. The problem is that people misuse "fascism" as a label for any authoritarianism.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2018 19:33:33 GMT
Probably, not.
This weird claim comes from Hanna Arendt and some other people. She called facism and communism to be totalitarism. This word confuses us sometimes.
The most featured reason why Soviet Union is not fascism is that the Soviets have been suspecting and killing their own nation while fascists have been killing other nations.
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Post by blueroad on Jun 16, 2018 10:15:24 GMT
Considering the irreconcilable differences Fascists and Communists/Socialists have in their world view(read Stalin's Essay on Dialectical Materialism/Historical Materialism), and the lack of similarity in policy, its pretty hard to draw this comparison. If we compare National Socialist Germany to the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union was State Capitalist and is for this reason rejected as Low-Phase Communism, while Germany used a(for lack of a better word) pragmatic Coporatist economic model where some vital sectors(ex. natural resource) were centralized while others were what we would consider today to be relatively free markets. In ideal and manifest the two are diametrically opposed.
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