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Post by DKTrav88 on Apr 23, 2018 9:55:25 GMT
The Eastern Orthodox church rejects the Bible's teaching that man is in spiritual bondage due to the corruption of his nature through the fall of Adam. Therefore the Eastern Orthodox church also rejects the doctrine of the imputed guilt of all mankind, having sinned in Adam. The Eastern Orthodox Church teaches that no one is guilty for the actual sin they committed but rather everyone inherits the consequences of this act; the foremost of this is physical death in this world. Scripture says, Romans 5:12-19 KJV [12] Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned: [13] (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law. [14] Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. [15] But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. [16] And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. [17] For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) [18] Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. [19] For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
As it is clearly written, scripture declares the guilt of all men in Adam, and the necessity of the person and work of Christ as the second Adam who redeems them from that condemnation.
Eastern Orthodoxy teaches the necessity of confession of sin to a human priestly mediator in order for the individual to maintain his salvation, and teaches that the Eucharist is a propitiatory sacrifice for confessed sins in addition to the sacrifice of Christ on the cross. Scripture says, 1 Timothy 2:5-6 KJV [5] For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; [6] Who gave himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time.
Hebrews 7:22-27 KJV [22] By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. [23] And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: [24] But this man , because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. [25] Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. [26] For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; [27] Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.
Romans 8:34 KJV [34] Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
As it is clearly written, scripture declares the priesthood of Christ alone, who has made full and final atonement for sin, the only one who can mediate and make intercession for forgiveness of sin.
Both of these Eastern Orthodox doctrines can be considered damnable heresies, as they are not biblical and result in the faith of a different Savior, a different Christ, a different God. I pray that members of the Eastern Orthodox Church repent of these beliefs and use scripture as intended, 2 Timothy 3:16 KJV [16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness
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Post by Διαμονδ on Apr 23, 2018 12:31:33 GMT
I see you can not calm down? Well, I'll patiently explain ... Christ is the second Adam .. It's fact knows all the Orthodox! Explain the Orthodox priesthood with the help of the Bible ?? Ok! For some Christians, perhaps it will be a revelation to learn that the ordained priesthood was established by God even in the Old Testament law. When the prophet Moses was old and asked God to give the shepherd, the Lord said to him: "Take for yourself Joshua the son of Nun, a man in whom is the Spirit, and lay your hand on him, and set him before Eleazar the priest and before all the congregation, and give him and give him from your glory, that all the congregation of the children of Israel should hear him ... And Moses did as the Lord commanded him, and took Jesus, and set him before Eleazar the priest and before all the congregation; And he laid his hands upon him, and gave him instruction, as the Lord had spoken by the hand of Moses "(Numbers 27. 18-23). .... But even before that, the Lord said to Moses: "Aaron shall make over them Levites their dedication before the LORD from the children of Israel, that they may serve the LORD" (Numbers 8:11). .... On the basis of the teachings of God, ordained to the priesthood and the holy apostles: "Then the twelve summoned the multitude of the disciples, said, It is not for us to neglect the word of God and serve tables (in Context - leaving the service and do the distribution of food supplies). So, brethren, choose from among yourselves seven men known, filled with the Holy Spirit and wisdom; we put them on this service. And they chose Stephen, ... (6 more names), and set them before the Apostles, and these, having prayed, laid their hands upon them "(Acts 6. 2-6). In the Lycaonian lands, the Apostles ordained priests in every church: "Having ordained elders to every church, they prayed with fasting and delivered them to the Lord, in whom they believed" (Acts 14: 21-23). Obviously, through this ordinance, a specific (priestly) grace and prescription from God is given to God for his entire life. So one Samaritan Wizard personally saw how the Holy Ghost descends upon their disciples through the laying of the Apostles (Acts 8: 9-24). It happened with Joshua after ordination Moses: "And Joshua the son of Nun was full of the spirit of wisdom because Moses had laid his hands on him, and obeyed him and the children of Israel did as the LORD commanded Moses" (Deut 34 9. ). .... There is an opinion that if the apostle Peter calls the believers royal priests, then the ordained priesthood does not seem to be needed. But it is obvious that the apostle calls all believers in Christ as priests not in the sense in which this name belongs to the ministers of the Church. With these words, Peter showed that the faithful and sanctified in the sacraments of the Church have the opportunity to appear before God, every man for himself spiritually, each time sacrificing prayers, petitions, thanksgiving, contrite spirit, and other virtues (Romans 12. 1;. 2 Corinthians 6. . 4). And that not all can be in the Church by kings, priests, teachers, this was said by the Apostle Paul in 1 Cor. 12. 28.) The Church, consisting of some perfect people, has never been on earth In the Church, the Apostolic Christians Ananias and Sapphira lied to the Holy Spirit and fell dead (Acts 5: 1, 10); among the believers a murmur arose (Acts 6: 1); widows and the poor were despised (James 2: 1-9); there were disputes, disagreements (1Cor.1: 11), litigation (1 Corinthians 6: 7). "Someone had the wife of his father instead of his wife" (1 Cor. 5: 1); others reveled before communion (1 Corinthians 11:21). "Many ... act as enemies of the cross of Christ ... think of the earthly" (Phil. 3: 18-19). "Everyone is looking for their own, and not what Jesus Christ desires" (Phil. 2-21). In the parables of seine and tares the Lord explained (Mt. 13: 24-30, 37-43, 47-50) that in the Kingdom of Him (the Church) until the end of the age the sons of the kingdom of the righteous and the sons of the wicked who are doing iniquity shall dwell together; when only the separation of good from evil will follow. The Orthodox reception has apostolic succession and power! This is their spiritual task .. the rest is not important!
Pay attention I quote only the Bible ...I will continue to quote Paul the Apostle
Therefore I adjure you before God and our Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom: 2 preach the word, infuse in time and not in time, reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long-suffering and edification.
3For there will be a time when sound doctrine will not be accepted, but by their whims they will elect teachers for themselves that would flatter their ears; 4and they turn away the ears from the truth, and turn to fables. The Second Epistle of Paul the Apostle to Timothy CHAPTER 4.
As for the Eucharist, you understand it symbolically but this it's not true not thisl Paul writes in 1 Corinthians
Next, you are going, [so that it] does not mean to eat the Lord's Supper; 21 For every one hastens before [the other] to eat his food, [so] that another is hungry, and another revels. 22 Do you not have houses to eat and drink? Or do you despise the church of God and humble the poor? What can I tell you? do I praise you for it? I do not praise. 23 For I received from the Lord the fact that I also told you that the Lord Jesus on the night he was betrayed took bread 24 and, having thanked, broke it and said: Take, eat, this is My Body, for you breakable; this do in remembrance of Me. 25 Likewise also the cup after supper, and he said: This cup is the new covenant in My Blood; Do this as you drink, in remembrance of Me. 26 For every time you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord's death, until he comes. 27 Therefore, if anyone eats this bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily, he will be guilty of the Body and Blood of the Lord. 28 Let a man test himself, and so let him eat of this bread and drink from this cup. 29 For whoever eats and drinks unworthily, he eats and drinks judgment to himself, not arguing about the Body of the Lord. 30 Therefore many of you are weak and sick, and many die. 31 For if we judged ourselves, we would not be judged. 32 But being judged, we are punished from the Lord, that we should not be condemned in peace. 33 Therefore, my brethren, going to the supper, wait for each other. 34 But if any man is hungry, let him eat at home, that he may not gather you to condemnation. I will arrange other things when I come.
As for the confession, remember the apostolic succession!
Confession is one of the sacraments, which is officially called the sacrament of penance. Confession in the sacrament of repentance is a confession to believers of sins before God in the presence of a priest who, in this case, being only a witness, in the name of Jesus Christ, through special permissive words, releases sins to all those who sincerely repented. [1] The repentant receives the remission of sins from God Himself. The power to forgive sins, according to church doctrine, was given by Jesus Christ to his disciples (and through them also to the Church in the person of bishops): "Receive the Holy Spirit. To whom do you forgive your sins? on whom you leave, they will remain on that "(John 20: 22-23).
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 24, 2018 0:29:07 GMT
I'm not really going to get in much but no where are priests needed in confession of sins. You confess it to God and in some cases those you did wrong to.
The New Testament does not teach that there are to be priests in the New Covenant even as a requirement. Instead, the New Testament teaches that all believers are priests and Jesus is the High Priest. First Peter 2:5-9 describes believers as a “holy priesthood” and a “royal priesthood.” Revelation 1:6 and 5:10 both describe believers as “a kingdom of priests.”
And we can approach God directly, ourselves, without the use of a human mediator. Why? Because Jesus Christ is our great High Priest (Hebrews 4:14-15; 10:21) and the only mediator between us and God (1 Timothy 2:5). The New Testament teaches that there are to be elders (1 Timothy 3), deacons (1 Timothy 3), bishops (Titus 1:6-9), and pastors (Ephesians 4:11) – but not priests because we are the priesthood with Jesus as the High Priest.
So in conclusion when it comes to confession of sin, believers are told in 1 John 1:9 to confess their sins to God. Period.
So I advise not to do wrong. And Jesus' disciples didn't tell anyone to confess to priests either as most of the verses quoted are from their writings. So any new "disciples/apostles" who arise and say you must then they are false teachers.
James 4:17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth [it] not, to him it is sin.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Apr 24, 2018 2:18:02 GMT
Another one of these? facepalm
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 25, 2018 7:11:46 GMT
The Eastern Orthodox church rejects the Bible's teaching that man is in spiritual bondage due to the corruption of his nature through the fall of Adam. As a follower of the Old Testament, I will tell you that the Eastern Orthodox church is right and Western Christianity is wrong. Western Christianity's error originates with Saint Augustine who knew neither Hebrew nor Greek, and so he misunderstood the story of Adam. Here is an Orthodox explanation: stgeorgegreenville.org/our-faith/catechism/the-ofall/original-sinFor what it's worth, here is my non-Christian understanding of the story. Adam was the archetype of the average man, the average idiot. This idiot listened to his idiot wife and naturally got into trouble. So the curse applies to average idiots. Abel had the brains to lift the curse for himself by inventing shepherding, so his idiot brother killed him jealousy, which is pretty much how things generally work out between intelligent people and average idiots.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 25, 2018 7:22:16 GMT
The Eastern Orthodox church rejects the Bible's teaching that man is in spiritual bondage due to the corruption of his nature through the fall of Adam. As a follower of the Old Testament, I will tell you that the Eastern Orthodox church is right and Western Christianity is wrong. Western Christianity's error originates with Saint Augustine who knew neither Hebrew nor Greek, and so he misunderstood the story of Adam. Here is an Orthodox explanation: stgeorgegreenville.org/our-faith/catechism/the-ofall/original-sinFor what it's worth, here is my non-Christian understanding of the story. Adam was the archetype of the average man, the average idiot. This idiot listened to his idiot wife and naturally got into trouble. So the curse applies to average idiots. Abel had the brains to lift the curse for himself by inventing shepherding, so his idiot brother killed him jealousy, which is pretty much how things generally work out between intelligent people and average idiots. Well, orthodox seems old testament moreso than new testament since they keep their going to priest to communicate with God as I see it. But no I am not in no means defending western Christianity. Because different religious sects exist all over the world. Even USA has orthodoxy so even then just saying orthodoxy is right and west is wrong when it does have orthodoxy too is kind of confusing. But I'm merely saying every country has different branches or beliefs from the bible. Or you disagree?
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 25, 2018 7:39:57 GMT
Well, orthodox seems old testament moreso than new testament since they keep their going to priest to communicate with God as I see it. But no I am not in no means defending western Christianity. Because different religious sects exist all over the world. Even USA has orthodoxy so even then just saying orthodoxy is right and west is wrong when it does have orthodoxy too is kind of confusing. But I'm merely saying every country has different branches or beliefs from the bible. Or you disagree? I disagree. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with traditional Western Christianity, but some specific beliefs, particularly those coming Saint Augustine, are simply wrong because they conflict with the text of the Bible. The idea that we are somehow guilty of Adam's sin is just wrong. The Orthodox point is that we inherited Adam's tendency to sin, not his sin specifically. And this view doesn't conflict with the rest of Western Christianity, so Western Christianity should just correct this error. In my opinion, Christians have an obligation to try to understand their Bible. Different interpretations are certainly possible, but directly and obviously contradicting the original text is not acceptable.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 25, 2018 7:48:26 GMT
Well, orthodox seems old testament moreso than new testament since they keep their going to priest to communicate with God as I see it. But no I am not in no means defending western Christianity. Because different religious sects exist all over the world. Even USA has orthodoxy so even then just saying orthodoxy is right and west is wrong when it does have orthodoxy too is kind of confusing. But I'm merely saying every country has different branches or beliefs from the bible. Or you disagree? I disagree. There is nothing fundamentally wrong with traditional Western Christianity, but some specific beliefs, particularly those coming Saint Augustine, are simply wrong because they conflict with the text of the Bible. The idea that we are somehow guilty of Adam's sin is just wrong. The Orthodox point is that we inherited Adam's tendency to sin, not his sin specifically. And this view doesn't conflict with the rest of Western Christianity, so Western Christianity should just correct this error. In my opinion, Christians have an obligation to try to understand their Bible. Different interpretations are certainly possible, but directly and obviously contradicting the original text is not acceptable. So you mean you disagree that we have orthodox , catholics, and protestants in each country around the world? Or on something else? I can't really discuss this Augustine guy though since I know nothing about him to be honest so can't comment on what he believed Shrug And sure Adam is guilty of his sin as you're guilty of yours and me of mine. Sin merely entered the world when Adam sinned because before he sinned there was no sin in the world. So think we agree on this part then? Since this verse says it too. Romans 5 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned—
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 25, 2018 7:56:59 GMT
So you mean you disagree that we have orthodox , catholics, and protestants in each country around the world? Or on something else? I can't really discuss this Augustine guy though since I know nothing about him to be honest so can't comment on what he believed And sure Adam is guilty of his sin as you're guilty of yours and me of mine. Sin merely entered the world when Adam sinned because before he sinned there was no sin in the world. So think we agree on this part then? Since this verse says it too. Romans 5 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— It sounds like we agree then. So I am just disagreeing with the original post in this thread. If you are interested in understanding this theological stuff, I recommend this book: www.amazon.com/Historic-Church-Orthodox-Christian-History-ebook/dp/B079J7G915/
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 25, 2018 8:02:04 GMT
So you mean you disagree that we have orthodox , catholics, and protestants in each country around the world? Or on something else? I can't really discuss this Augustine guy though since I know nothing about him to be honest so can't comment on what he believed And sure Adam is guilty of his sin as you're guilty of yours and me of mine. Sin merely entered the world when Adam sinned because before he sinned there was no sin in the world. So think we agree on this part then? Since this verse says it too. Romans 5 12 Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned— It sounds like we agree then. So I am just disagreeing with the original post in this thread. If you are interested in understanding this theological stuff, I recommend this book: www.amazon.com/Historic-Church-Orthodox-Christian-History-ebook/dp/B079J7G915/With the whole post or which parts exactly? But I thought you approved of the anabaptists above all other Christians sections or you changed to orthodox?
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Post by fschmidt on Apr 25, 2018 8:38:43 GMT
With the whole post or which parts exactly? But I thought you approved of the anabaptists above all other Christians sections or you changed to orthodox? Okay, let me go through the parts. The Mennonites agree with the Eastern Orthodox in rejecting original sin. gameo.org/index.php?title=Original_SinOn confession, my limited understanding is that Eastern Orthodoxy is not like Catholicism. Their idea is not that the priest can forgive sins, but rather that Christ forgives sins and the priest just acts as a guide. This isn't unreasonable. Mennonites have no concept of confession to priests, also reasonable. The rejection of priesthood (or Luther's priesthood of all believes) is an absolutely horrible mistake. There needs to be a group of people who seriously study religion in order to guide those who don't, and this group is the priesthood. While the Mennonites pretend to follow Luther here, the reality is that they don't and that they have their own clergy - bishops, ministers, and deacons.
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 25, 2018 9:08:05 GMT
With the whole post or which parts exactly? But I thought you approved of the anabaptists above all other Christians sections or you changed to orthodox? Okay, let me go through the parts. The Mennonites agree with the Eastern Orthodox in rejecting original sin. gameo.org/index.php?title=Original_SinOn confession, my limited understanding is that Eastern Orthodoxy is not like Catholicism. Their idea is not that the priest can forgive sins, but rather that Christ forgives sins and the priest just acts as a guide. This isn't unreasonable. Mennonites have no concept of confession to priests, also reasonable. The rejection of priesthood (or Luther's priesthood of all believes) is an absolutely horrible mistake. There needs to be a group of people who seriously study religion in order to guide those who don't, and this group is the priesthood. While the Mennonites pretend to follow Luther here, the reality is that they don't and that they have their own clergy - bishops, ministers, and deacons. Well, here are some verses that do not state that priests or any guides are needed but that after you confess your sins, they are heard by God right away. So unless you know of other verses that say otherwise then please do share. In these Luke verses a sinner came to the synagogue and humbled himself and was justified. Was there a priest? No. But was the sinner accepted and made justified? Yes. Sure the Pharisee was heard too but he was not justified because trusted not in the right way. Shrug Luke 18 Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ 13 And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” Then here just speaks of people calling directly to God to be forgiven with no priest or guide to be heard by God and they are heard and are forgiven. So what is the point to priest even if God hears us? 2 Chronicles 7:14 Then if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. And we don't reject priesthood. New testament says that the believers are the priesthood. 1 Peter 2:9-10 9 But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light; 10 who once were not a people but are now the people of God, who had not obtained mercy but now have obtained mercy. And yes the bishops and deacons are mentioned. 1 Timothy 3 2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach; 10 But let these also first be tested; then let them serve as deacons, being found blameless. So yes those exist hmm
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 19:41:28 GMT
The Eastern Orthodox church rejects the Bible's teaching that man is in spiritual bondage due to the corruption of his nature through the fall of Adam. As a follower of the Old Testament, I will tell you that the Eastern Orthodox church is right and Western Christianity is wrong. Western Christianity's error originates with Saint Augustine who knew neither Hebrew nor Greek, and so he misunderstood the story of Adam. Here is an Orthodox explanation: stgeorgegreenville.org/our-faith/catechism/the-ofall/original-sinFor what it's worth, here is my non-Christian understanding of the story. Adam was the archetype of the average man, the average idiot. This idiot listened to his idiot wife and naturally got into trouble. So the curse applies to average idiots. Abel had the brains to lift the curse for himself by inventing shepherding, so his idiot brother killed him jealousy, which is pretty much how things generally work out between intelligent people and average idiots. Oh, thank you very much, Fschmidt. Surely, the key figure is Augustine. Why don't protestants reject it, I don't know. Protestantism is built up in tradition of his interpretations. My lecturer, Alexander Filonenko, had told about it many times. I don't remember details, but I can ask him about the question. There are some separation about understanding Trinity of Cappadocian Fathers, because, there were no translations of their vision of the doctrine, and these discussions had no influence on West. Later, the problems about it arose in the famous 'Filioque'. Your interpretation is amazing! Honestly!
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Post by Elizabeth on Apr 25, 2018 19:48:26 GMT
As a follower of the Old Testament, I will tell you that the Eastern Orthodox church is right and Western Christianity is wrong. Western Christianity's error originates with Saint Augustine who knew neither Hebrew nor Greek, and so he misunderstood the story of Adam. Here is an Orthodox explanation: stgeorgegreenville.org/our-faith/catechism/the-ofall/original-sinFor what it's worth, here is my non-Christian understanding of the story. Adam was the archetype of the average man, the average idiot. This idiot listened to his idiot wife and naturally got into trouble. So the curse applies to average idiots. Abel had the brains to lift the curse for himself by inventing shepherding, so his idiot brother killed him jealousy, which is pretty much how things generally work out between intelligent people and average idiots. Oh, thank you very much, Fschmidt. Surely, the key figure is Augustine. Why don't protestants reject it, I don't know. Protestantism is built up in tradition of his interpretations. My lecturer, Alexander Filonenko, had told about it many times. I don't remember details, but I can ask him about the question. There are some separation about understanding Trinity of Cappadocian Fathers, because, there were no translations of their vision of the doctrine, and these discussions had no influence on West. Later, the problems about it arose in the famous 'Filioque'. Your interpretation is amazing! Honestly! Who is he? My church doesn't mention any persons outside bible.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2018 19:54:51 GMT
Oh, thank you very much, Fschmidt. Surely, the key figure is Augustine. Why don't protestants reject it, I don't know. Protestantism is built up in tradition of his interpretations. My lecturer, Alexander Filonenko, had told about it many times. I don't remember details, but I can ask him about the question. There are some separation about understanding Trinity of Cappadocian Fathers, because, there were no translations of their vision of the doctrine, and these discussions had no influence on West. Later, the problems about it arose in the famous 'Filioque'. Your interpretation is amazing! Honestly! Who is he? My church doesn't mention any persons outside bible. Elizabeth, I'm sorry for being so straight, but... you're awesome! I love you!.. ..And I want to say that I have come from nothing. (Do you believe that?) Yes, honestly, I have no parents, no creator; I just appeared from nothing. (Do you still believe in that?) Aha, I created myself from nothing, in 7 minutes. (It's unbelievable!) And I invented my language. All the words I use are completely mine. Clothes, blood system circulation, my face, my voice... all these things were made by me. (It's hopeless...) I never mention someone else on me. I'm completely in myself. I am inside of me, and me is myself inside of me without everyone. None has influenced at me. (This guy is sorta...) I have not influence neither from my friends, neither form someone else. Just completely in myself... like Bible.
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