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Post by fschmidt on Feb 20, 2018 6:58:33 GMT
Since many here seem to be from countries outside the West, I thought I would repost my post www.intelligentpeopleforum.com/threads/boiling-frogs.111/ here. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boiling_frogI suspect that many here are from countries that have not yet felt the full effect of modern culture. You are like frogs enjoying the warm water, not aware that you will soon be boiled to death. Modern culture is no more tolerable for intelligent people than boiling water is. My former intelligent friends are gone, insanity and suicide. The same will happen with you unless you manage to dumb yourself down enough to make the coming modern culture idiocracy tolerable. I jumped out of the pot of boiling water before it was too late. I jumped into the Islamic pot where intelligent people can survive. I realize that to those sitting in their warm water, jumping into the Islamic pot must look crazy. All I can say is enjoy your warm water while you are boiled to death.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2018 19:55:47 GMT
I agree with most of your words. I had similar feelings about it. But feelings and rational reasons are different things. Why should we need to deconstruct ourselves into dumbs? Is this the only way out? What about the intelligent limits? Do they exist? I never thought 'bout my head will blow reading too many books.
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Post by fschmidt on Feb 25, 2018 6:13:51 GMT
I am against trying to become stupid, which is why I support Islam. In modern culture, intelligent people are ridiculed. Islam doesn't care about intelligence, and that is an improvement.
I am not sure what you mean by "the intelligent limits". In modern culture, any ability to think independently is a social death sentence.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2018 15:22:32 GMT
fschmidtCompletely agree. But, maybe I should disagree? It would be my individual desire though?.. So, the modern culture makes us all totally identical, is that right? And what Islam exactly can do to dash it? I like Islam's theology, I think it's the strong one, but it doesn't seem new and special to many others. Could Islam bring us some great potential and in what way?
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Post by fschmidt on Feb 25, 2018 21:31:59 GMT
So, the modern culture makes us all totally identical, is that right? And what Islam exactly can do to dash it? I like Islam's theology, I think it's the strong one, but it doesn't seem new and special to many others. Could Islam bring us some great potential and in what way? Modern culture and Islam are about equally conformist. The difference is that Islam is much more tolerant than modern culture is. If you are an independent thinker, you can be tolerated by Muslims but you will not be tolerated by members of modern culture. Islam's strength is not being new, it is being traditional. Most religions cannot defend their tradition against modern culture. In its current form, Islam will not bring us some great potential. What it offers is a refuge from the hostile insanity of modern culture for the few intelligent people who are left.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2018 8:16:29 GMT
fschmidtI hope it will...
..Maybe you right about 'insanity', however, as for me to be insane is better than be normal: or you are in religion as an insane person, or you are in modern culture as an insane. What is the difference then?
I want to be insane in modern culture rather than in religious one.
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Post by fschmidt on Feb 27, 2018 4:34:59 GMT
..Maybe you right about 'insanity', however, as for me to be insane is better than be normal: or you are in religion as an insane person, or you are in modern culture as an insane. What is the difference then? I want to be insane in modern culture rather than in religious one. These days I consider normal to be insane. Anyone who is sane is a freak in modern culture. Maybe you prefer modern culture to religious culture because of where you live. This is the point of this "Boiling Frogs" thread. Spend time in the West and you may change your mind.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 6:39:38 GMT
So, the modern culture makes us all totally identical, is that right? And what Islam exactly can do to dash it? I like Islam's theology, I think it's the strong one, but it doesn't seem new and special to many others. Could Islam bring us some great potential and in what way? Modern culture and Islam are about equally conformist. The difference is that Islam is much more tolerant than modern culture is. If you are an independent thinker, you can be tolerated by Muslims but you will not be tolerated by members of modern culture. Islam's strength is not being new, it is being traditional. Most religions cannot defend their tradition against modern culture. In its current form, Islam will not bring us some great potential. What it offers is a refuge from the hostile insanity of modern culture for the few intelligent people who are left. You are indeed right. I had lot of friends from pakistan, and my opinions, which my hindu media usually shows, about them, changed completely forever!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2018 17:59:07 GMT
fschmidtPerhaps, you right on 100%. Maybe it is exactly so. But even despite that, I can't stand some things. Ok, you say that the Western culture is totally kcufed up (sorry, for my French) today. What exactly wrong with it? Feminism, gender politics? The Western culture always was ahead, and it's okay, they always were different, and the other tribes always wanted to grab a piece of cake from it. Inside it there were lots of the ones who wanted to shake it. The revolution of 1799 is good example to be demonstrated it.
For why do we need to destroy something undestroyable? The modern culture will win because of its modernity! There's no problem in 'modern culture', there's problem in relationship between a center and a periphery; a leader and heroes; a woman and people; a chief and employees; big counties and small ones.
So, I even think that feminism is not a product of democracy (I think that democracy exist in the form of friendship between families, groups of families); feminism is just an alternative of a form of dictation, nothing else. People always sleep when a dictators comes to their houses.
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