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Post by DKTrav88 on Feb 20, 2018 3:02:20 GMT
We all know about the traditional family role of the husband in the family which is to work and support the family and the wife to stay home with the kids, with the husband being the head of the family. What do you think about traditional family roles? Should they stay the same as they have always been? Should there be flexibility? Can the wife work instead of taking care of the kids? Can/should the roles be reversed? Discuss.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2018 13:49:45 GMT
So the father failed to discipline the child and it is her fault? What father? You said "parents". Was the father present at all or not?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 1, 2018 18:16:37 GMT
You said "parents". Was the father present at all or not? I got confused. If you mean the girl's dad then he's dead. The dad of the girl's kid is a druggie and could care less about the kid. Most of what I said aboit the girl is based on last things her friends saw on Facebook or heard from her as she stopped friendship with Christian friends and is basically alone. Shrug either way she needs to grow up and raise her kid right if she did that. There's no excuse for bad parenting.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jun 1, 2018 19:53:18 GMT
The wife should watch over the children, teach them, prepare food for them and her husband, and so on. Shrug
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 19:22:59 GMT
You said "parents". Was the father present at all or not? I got confused. If you mean the girl's dad then he's dead. The dad of the girl's kid is a druggie and could care less about the kid. Most of what I said aboit the girl is based on last things her friends saw on Facebook or heard from her as she stopped friendship with Christian friends and is basically alone. either way she needs to grow up and raise her kid right if she did that. There's no excuse for bad parenting. True, there is no excuse for bad parenting. However, considering the nature of the girl and the difficulty she is under, I believe (from an outside perspective of one who does not know the entire situation) the church should reach out and have mercy on her. People make bad decisions, and they have to pay for these bad decisions...this is without question. But mercy should be shown to her nonetheless, and that mercy should be should through the church and its people...we all reap what we sow and I rather reap mercy than judgement...but that is just me. The church may have made the right decision, I won't argue against that at all. Order must be maintained considering one bad apple can infect the rest. But the girl is at ground zero and what she need's now is mercy and love...not judgement...she is obviously bearing the consequences of her decisions and will for the rest of her life...love her anyhow.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jun 2, 2018 19:42:31 GMT
I got confused. If you mean the girl's dad then he's dead. The dad of the girl's kid is a druggie and could care less about the kid. Most of what I said aboit the girl is based on last things her friends saw on Facebook or heard from her as she stopped friendship with Christian friends and is basically alone. either way she needs to grow up and raise her kid right if she did that. There's no excuse for bad parenting. True, there is no excuse for bad parenting. However, considering the nature of the girl and the difficulty she is under, I believe (from an outside perspective of one who does not know the entire situation) the church should reach out and have mercy on her. People make bad decisions, and they have to pay for these bad decisions...this is without question. But mercy should be shown to her nonetheless, and that mercy should be should through the church and its people...we all reap what we sow and I rather reap mercy than judgement...but that is just me. The church may have made the right decision, I won't argue against that at all. Order must be maintained considering one bad apple can infect the rest. But the girl is at ground zero and what she need's now is mercy and love...not judgement...she is obviously bearing the consequences of her decisions and will for the rest of her life...love her anyhow. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2018 20:00:28 GMT
True, there is no excuse for bad parenting. However, considering the nature of the girl and the difficulty she is under, I believe (from an outside perspective of one who does not know the entire situation) the church should reach out and have mercy on her. People make bad decisions, and they have to pay for these bad decisions...this is without question. But mercy should be shown to her nonetheless, and that mercy should be should through the church and its people...we all reap what we sow and I rather reap mercy than judgement...but that is just me. The church may have made the right decision, I won't argue against that at all. Order must be maintained considering one bad apple can infect the rest. But the girl is at ground zero and what she need's now is mercy and love...not judgement...she is obviously bearing the consequences of her decisions and will for the rest of her life...love her anyhow. You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped though. Have a few women, no men, show up with food. If she rejects it, so be it. If she accepts it good, have them spend time with her and let the girl cry be angry with whatever she has to say. If she wants to condemn the church, let her. If she wants to say "fuck the world", let her. Let the girl choose what she wants but love her anyhow. Does that mean she has to be let back into the church, of course not...but let her choose that. Christ went out to love the depraved and hopeless with no regard for his own feelings...do the same. The girl is on her own...let her know that the churches love is more powerful than her fear. Fear of pain and rejection, I believe, is one of the core motivating factors of this girl's condition...however this is a condition we all know at one time or another...so in these respects suffer with her. The act of sacrificing oneself for a single moment, just to reach out, is more powerful than a thousand sermons or cheap words from a pulpit. You have to remember it is not just about her, but the future of her child as well. Do no forget this...the child has a future and needs to be loved by her mother and father...wherever the mother and father fall short, it is up to the church to carry the cross of those parent's weakness where they can. It is up to the church to help restore the relationship of the mother to the child, and the father, where they can. Remember this child has a path is must walk and it's life has a purpose, don't let the mother's sin overpower the fact this child is made in the image of God also. A simple act of simply bring food to her door step and letting her talk is a very small act of kindness which can change her life. And do not preach to her about right or wrong...she is already suffering enough pain and judgement, much of which she chose on her owned. The simple truth is that Christ took the form of man and worked through man and addressed the people as people. Show her humanity and kindness, but let her be free to choose. If she rejects the food, leave it on her doorstep. Let the congregation chip in to by food/diapers for the child and leave them on the doorstep if you must. Let her open the door...but it is your duty to knock.
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