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Post by deathforwotan on Jan 25, 2018 7:02:56 GMT
Sweden gives out leaflets and Russia prepares for War.
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Post by Gavius on Feb 28, 2018 12:20:34 GMT
As a history student, I've noticed we're showing all the signs of something big soon. So many people I know are worried about USA and NK, but once again I believe it'd start in Europe. The tensions are definitely there.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Feb 28, 2018 13:47:56 GMT
As a history student, I've noticed we're showing all the signs of something big soon. So many people I know are worried about USA and NK, but once again I believe it'd start in Europe. The tensions are definitely there.
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Post by Gavius on Mar 1, 2018 13:12:01 GMT
As a history student, I've noticed we're showing all the signs of something big soon. So many people I know are worried about USA and NK, but once again I believe it'd start in Europe. The tensions are definitely there. It's a popular opinion, at least here, that Trump and Kim will eventually engage in full on war. I personally doubt it.
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 1, 2018 13:26:03 GMT
It's a popular opinion, at least here, that Trump and Kim will eventually engage in full on war. I personally doubt it. I hope they wont :(
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Post by Gavius on Mar 1, 2018 13:41:32 GMT
It's a popular opinion, at least here, that Trump and Kim will eventually engage in full on war. I personally doubt it. I hope they wont :( Neither are stupid enough to invoke the wrath of China, I think we should be fine. Seems like in recent weeks it's sort of died down for now anyway. Like I said, Europe is my bet. The tensions with places like Germany and Poland and the great divide socially and politically across many European countries at the moment is very evident.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 14:08:41 GMT
GaviusSo, what do you think about reason, a cause which may start the war like that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2018 15:53:39 GMT
The tensions with places like Germany and Poland and the great divide socially and politically across many European countries at the moment is very evident. There are no serious tensions between Germany and Poland. Personally, I doubt in this "war". Europe is not a place to wage war anymore, at least not between European countries that technically are allies in most of cases. Since some time two sides participate in the conflicts in the Middle East, like in the case of Vietnam or Korea in the past. If something is going to be started, then I bet that Israel will be involved in it, which recently does its best to piss off as many other countries as possible. But I still doubt if any conventional warfare will take place.
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Post by Gavius on Mar 2, 2018 8:14:44 GMT
Gavius So, what do you think about reason, a cause which may start the war like that? It seems many people in Europe are starting to disagree with the EU and its leadership, clashing over issues such as Refugees, Censorship, Gender Politics, etc. Divides in political ideologies in general seem to be present too, with many Europeans I know sharing clear distaste for Merkel and her ways, supporting parties in their country to cut off from the EU as the UK did. They feel as if their countries are suffering for the sake of another's agenda. Now that being said I don't think any of them specifically are going to directly start a war, but I can't imagine if/when more countries begin to trying withdrawing from the EU that there won't a pretty negative reaction. When this situation likely gets more chaotic, all it takes is a couple of fired egos.. I also feel uncomfortable about Putin, something not quite right is happening in Russia at the moment. Who knows how it will link in with all of this.. Then again in an age of endless information and discussion, both useful and useless, this could all just be hysteria. That would definitely be a better scenario.
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Post by Bomie on Mar 2, 2018 9:43:47 GMT
Seems unlikely, if we could survive the cold war with it's MAD we will most likely survive this period in time where MAD has only become more well accepted. This is especially with the huge change in information technology meaning that the whole world is linked. Communication is easier and any country that does try to start a war that could breach MAD would immediately have issues with its citizens
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Post by valkahike on Mar 5, 2018 14:00:41 GMT
With China actually dropping their support of North Korea, I don't think it's a realistic possibility of something on the scale of a 'world' war like we've experienced in the past. This is even entertaining the thought that America and North Korea even want to be at war though, which they don't, it would be a lose-lose situation. Trump has even stated that they don't wish to even change the regime and ways of North Korea and that they just want to help NK make steps to de-nuclearization, which however fruitless, isn't a statement of war.
Now as for WW3 *actually* breaking out, it'd probably be in Europe. Like Gavius has said, the disgruntlement for the EU is becoming a lot stronger and a lot of right-winged EU-skeptic parties are becoming a lot more popular, with some in power already. Granted, these are minor countries such as Poland and Hungary, but as of right now a pretty big game changer has appeared: Italy. Italy right now is going through their elections and it looks like the right-winged anti-immigration EU-skeptic parties are definitely going to win and have stated their contempt for the EU well beforehand. With the Brexit and the very possible Italexit that could come in the near future the possibilities of a conflict in Europe really open up, especially considering Italy is Europe's 3rd largest economy and is a very significant player in the politics surrounding the EU right now.
Again, this could just be melodrama and just some new management of politics rather than a path to war, but it's still a possible thing that could happen if this pattern continues. In my opinion, rather than WWIII straight up it'd start with the anti-EU countries at that point in time distancing themselves from France and Germany (The main EU contenders and supporters) and forming either pacts or just staying to their lonesome, but if the EU does something to try and infringe upon the ex-EU nations I could see some intervention and heated back-and-forths happening, though again I don't believe war is likely unless something quite radical develops, which as of the clues we've gotten right now would most likely be a spark from somewhere like Italy or a country with an equal level of spontaneity and nationalism/anti-EU sentiment brewing under the hood. If there is war, I really think it'd be a France and Germany vs Europe except Scandinavia and some others sorta situation. If Russia decides to intervene it'd probably be on the side of the EU opposition, though that's ignoring the state of NATO which I'm unfortunately not quite educated on and it would be awesome if someone could fill the gaps there.
This is all just guesses from what I've read on situations currently happening, I'm not anything like a politics major or something fancy like that, please feel free to criticize and contest my predicitions.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 5, 2018 14:31:05 GMT
I think that the war against ISIL will go down in history as the 3rd World War!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 19:06:46 GMT
GaviusThank you for your answering, I'm sorry bothering you again, but what do you think about this 'uncomfortable', and what do you think about the next president of Russia, who will it be? Thank you.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Mar 5, 2018 21:34:22 GMT
Gavius Thank you for your answering, I'm sorry bothering you again, but what do you think about this 'uncomfortable', and what do you think about the next president of Russia, who will it be? Thank you. Of course it will be Putin as there is no alternative! In the world this situation is everywhere. I do not think it's right to ask this from foreigners, they usually do not know the situation here! The problem is that all politicians have their clans that are not usually going to leave! For example, Putin - in Russia, Merkel - Germany, Bush and Clinton in America and others!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2018 21:53:57 GMT
ΔιαμονδWell, anyway I want to know opinions of the others, it is interesting to know about such opinions. What about Sobchak? or Grinev? I think that everything is possible now. What if we will have another 'interfering into elections'? It's very possible to happen. What about the clan of 'Arktos'? What do you think about political force of our forum? Sarcastic smile
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