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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 2, 2018 4:33:04 GMT
Apostles John and Peter preached Jesus as the stone to all people in the below verses. Acts 4:10-12 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from the dead, even by him doth this man stand here before you whole. This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Only the stone saves which is also the chief cornerstone.
And these apostles encountered threats and so on from the people. Some apostles fell away later and some held on strong. Are you brave enough to spread Jesus as the stone who provides salvation no matter what?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 3:26:20 GMT
I like green. Seemed nice to use it there Shrug OK..I thought may be some religious colour of importance with the stone. Try aqua next time
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 3:29:00 GMT
Alright Dk. This is a clear cut insult. U will never learn.. You can't carry conversation in a civilized way ever. I am saving the screenshots for the admin and I just warned u. I don't expect to see any bias from the Queen on this instance, if she does, quite frankly. I'll give up this position. Just caz one guy can't learn to talk in a sophisticated manner This whole conversation has been disingenuous from the start. The dude isn't here to discuss anything, he's here to push his anti-Jesus/anti-Bible/pro-atheist agenda. That's clear from his very first comment. Rule 5 is clear, it says continuous insults or harassment. And to be quite honest, it is insulting to have this guy come in here and try to tell me my God is fake. And it's not like you don't insult me from time to time. I just expect it and ignore it now. And by the way I do have you blocked, your posts are hidden unless I unhide them. First I warned u not to depict the guy liar. Second u are calling him blind in needing of surgery. So if this isn't continuous insult then what is Is there something wrong with u?
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Post by Elizabeth on Oct 6, 2018 3:29:32 GMT
I'm trying to get this part through his head and other's who have trouble discussing together. I'm like fed up with the childish behavior Shrug Whose idea is to start a Christian thread?? Well that's not the issue. Fluffy fluffs up too much in the end. Well, Christian section is for these threads. But DK needs to control himself more in them. They can offend my God all they want. It won't bother me any for them sharing their opinion and I like the rejection. But he gets offended for some reason when people are entitled to have whatever beliefs they want.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 3:34:40 GMT
This whole conversation has been disingenuous from the start. The dude isn't here to discuss anything, he's here to push his anti-Jesus/anti-Bible/pro-atheist agenda. That's clear from his very first comment. Rule 5 is clear, it says continuous insults or harassment. And to be quite honest, it is insulting to have this guy come in here and try to tell me my God is fake. And it's not like you don't insult me from time to time. I just expect it and ignore it now. And by the way I do have you blocked, your posts are hidden unless I unhide them. When did I ever insult u. you just don't like my opinion, hence u blocked me. he is politely making his point across. In turn yes. Your God results to be fake. But he is not throwing insulting statements like. Fix your eyes or glasses. If u get butt hurt by talking to members who have contrasting beliefs, I suggest u don't engage with them, as ofcourse there counter argument will represent your god fake not that they are insulting you personally I don’t want to go dig up all the times you’ve insulted me, they’re around on other threads. You’ve done it in the shoutbox as well. I blocked you because you were insulting me, not because I don’t like your opinion. That’s your opinion which I do not care for, I don’t care for mrblacks opinion either. I can’t take him seriously shrug I told him to fix his eyes because he was mixing my post with Clovis’s post as if Clovis and I were the same person. Yea, you’re right, I shouldn’t engage with people who aren’t like minded.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 3:35:10 GMT
Whose idea is to start a Christian thread?? Well that's not the issue. Fluffy fluffs up too much in the end. Well, Christian section is for these threads. But DK needs to control himself more in them. They can offend my God all they want. It won't bother me any for them sharing their opinion and I like the rejection. But he gets offended for some reason when people are entitled to have whatever beliefs they want. Yeah..I got in his way only when he started to unleash his anger on Mr black, we'll atleat Mr black isn't like diamond and has left the building 😃
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 3:36:56 GMT
When did I ever insult u. you just don't like my opinion, hence u blocked me. he is politely making his point across. In turn yes. Your God results to be fake. But he is not throwing insulting statements like. Fix your eyes or glasses. If u get butt hurt by talking to members who have contrasting beliefs, I suggest u don't engage with them, as ofcourse there counter argument will represent your god fake not that they are insulting you personally I don’t want to go dig up all the times you’ve insulted me, they’re around on other threads. You’ve done it in the shoutbox as well. I blocked you because you were insulting me, not because I don’t like your opinion. That’s your opinion which I do not care for, I don’t care for mrblacks opinion either. I can’t take him seriously shrug I told him to fix his eyes because he was mixing my post with Clovis’s post as if Clovis and I were the same person. Yea, you’re right, I shouldn’t engage with people who aren’t like minded. Did u ever made a note to me, that I am insulting u. I was pulling your leg more than often and I never said anything that would classify insulting. Show me. So then I could apologize
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 3:43:20 GMT
When did I ever insult u. you just don't like my opinion, hence u blocked me. he is politely making his point across. In turn yes. Your God results to be fake. But he is not throwing insulting statements like. Fix your eyes or glasses. If u get butt hurt by talking to members who have contrasting beliefs, I suggest u don't engage with them, as ofcourse there counter argument will represent your god fake not that they are insulting you personally I don’t want to go dig up all the times you’ve insulted me, they’re around on other threads. You’ve done it in the shoutbox as well. I blocked you because you were insulting me, not because I don’t like your opinion. That’s your opinion which I do not care for, I don’t care for mrblacks opinion either. I can’t take him seriously shrug I told him to fix his eyes because he was mixing my post with Clovis’s post as if Clovis and I were the same person. Yea, you’re right, I shouldn’t engage with people who aren’t like minded. So instead of politely saying. Mr black you are responding to the wrong post. U referred him to the eye surgeon.. Is that the way to go on about it?? Your preaching is of no use. When u can't maintain composure. It will simply overpower what ever nice things u have said before. You spend so much time with Elizabeth. Care to notice how she interacts? Learn something from her
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 3:47:12 GMT
I don’t want to go dig up all the times you’ve insulted me, they’re around on other threads. You’ve done it in the shoutbox as well. I blocked you because you were insulting me, not because I don’t like your opinion. That’s your opinion which I do not care for, I don’t care for mrblacks opinion either. I can’t take him seriously shrug I told him to fix his eyes because he was mixing my post with Clovis’s post as if Clovis and I were the same person. Yea, you’re right, I shouldn’t engage with people who aren’t like minded. Did u ever made a note to me, that I am insulting u. I was pulling your leg more than often and I never said anything that would classify insulting. Show me. So then I could apologize Don't worry about it
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 3:49:53 GMT
Did u ever made a note to me, that I am insulting u. I was pulling your leg more than often and I never said anything that would classify insulting. Show me. So then I could apologize Don't worry about it ok
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 5:55:13 GMT
Exactly as I thought, moving the goalposts. The word "sincere" was not raised in the post I responded to. As to whether I actually prayed or not, how would you propose that I prove that to you?
I asked if you were sincere, Clovis's post is separate from mine Maybe you should put on some glasses, or get surgery to fix those crossed eyes. So were you sincere when you prayed? Sure it was separate, but you jumped into it after I responded to his request.
Your new request represents a moving of the goalposts from the original request. Correct?
As to your question about sincerity (which I am not really obliged to answer given your rudeness) my reply is a qualified "yes". I am an atheist which means that I hold no belief in god(s). With that proviso, I was as sincere as I could be in the circumstances. Now, are you going to move the goalposts again and ask me to prove my sincerity or claim that I was just not sincere enough? If that is the case, how do you propose that I prove my sincerity to you?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 6:02:31 GMT
That's an adage, not necessarily a fact. If we define what is true by that which conforms with reality then, because there is only one reality, something is either true or it isn't. The truth I am talking about is not subjective. What truth are you talking about? An adage is a general truth... Yes, I know that, the key word being "general" (not "universal"). It is not a fact as you claimed since a fact is something which is known or proved to be true. I'm sorry if you struggle with the English language and don't understand the difference between an adage (general truth) and a fact.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 6:18:35 GMT
I just prayed to the Christian God and nothing happened. I then tried praying to Allah and still nothing happened.
What's next?
Wait for an answer. If you sincerely prayed seeking an answer he will answer you in his own time. Sincerity is key also. God will not answer someone not actually seeking the truth. It isn't a moving goal post, it is what God requires. So you are going to move the goalposts too by introducing the word "sincere" into the equation. You never qualified originally. You just asked me to pray and I did. Now you want to modify your original request. That is classic shifting of the goalposts.
The problem is this. If I never receive an answer from a god you will claim that I just haven't been sincere enough and there is no way for me to ever prove my sincerity to you. Therefore you have put yourself in a position where you cannot be proved wrong under any circumstances. Heads you win, tails I lose. Do you think that is a fair bargain?
Let me make a request of you in return. In Matthew 21:22 Jesus states "If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer". You obviously claim to be a sincere believer (you have faith and do not doubt). I want you to ask in prayer for malaria to be wiped from the face of the Earth tomorrow. Jesus has said that you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer as long as you believe. There is no qualification on what you can ask for. So go ahead and let me know the result. I will be disappointed if you start making excuses as to why you can't pray for such a humane cause.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 6:18:41 GMT
An adage is a general truth... Yes, I know that, the key word being "general" (not "universal"). It is not a fact as you claimed since a fact is something which is known or proved to be true. I'm sorry if you struggle with the English language and don't understand the difference between an adage (general truth) and a fact. universal is a synonym for general, and fact is a synonym for truth. I'm sorry if you struggle with the English language and don't understand that there isn’t a difference between a fact and a general truth.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Oct 6, 2018 6:20:57 GMT
I asked if you were sincere, Clovis's post is separate from mine Maybe you should put on some glasses, or get surgery to fix those crossed eyes. So were you sincere when you prayed? Sure it was separate, but you jumped into it after I responded to his request. Your new request represents a moving of the goalposts from the original request. Correct? As to your question about sincerity (which I am not really obliged to answer given your rudeness) my reply is a qualified "yes". I am an atheist which means that I hold no belief in god(s). With that proviso, I was as sincere as I could be in the circumstances. Now, are you going to move the goalposts again and ask me to prove my sincerity or claim that I was just not sincere enough? If that is the case, how do you propose that I prove my sincerity to you?
So you weren’t sincere?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2018 6:33:21 GMT
And to be quite honest, it is insulting to have this guy come in here and try to tell me my God is fake. That is not an insult directed at you. If anything I am insulting your God (if he exists). Surely your God is capable of defending himself without needing you to stand up for him? I mean, he can strike me with lightning at any time, right?
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