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Post by xxxxxxxxx on May 5, 2023 20:07:26 GMT
What is stupid to one man is genius to another; what is genius to one man is stupid to another; what stupidity and genius are is the man to himself.
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Post by MAYA-EL on May 26, 2023 16:52:06 GMT
The 2 are separate because of action One is the act of recalling what you have already experienced and the second is the act of fabrication making somthing new never before experienced This is what defines the 2 as being different And of course they both touch because they both happen within the being called man Action is what connects them. Imagination is an experience. We interpret events through that which we imagine in our mind; thinking of 2+2=4 requires us to imagine a set of things. We cannot seperate our imagination from experience as we connect and seperate forms we have experienced, i.e. a dragon being the composition of wings (real), horns (real), scales (real), etc. In another respect we interpret our experiences through the images within our head, be it real or unreal. Dually all hypothesis's are an act of imagination, we test the truth through our imagination. Thirdly: "Deep inside the temporal lobe of the brain, the hippocampus has a central role in our ability to remember, imagine and dream." www.google.com/search?q=the+part+of+the+brain+which+controls+imagination+is+the+same+as+memory&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS1059US1059&oq=the+part+of+the+brain+which+controls+imagination+is+the+same+as+memory&aqs=chrome..69i57.17138j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8As I've already said the difference between the 2 is in action and the similarities are because both happen within man, naturally you can't see the separation because you probably lack the rational stability required to not be labeled by the DSM-5
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on May 26, 2023 19:46:46 GMT
As I've already said the difference between the 2 is in action and the similarities are because both happen within man, naturally you can't see the separation because you probably lack the rational stability required to not be labeled by the DSM-5 The fact that both happen within man necessitates a connection between the two through man. Are they separate in some respects? Yes. Are they connected in some respects? Yes. To differentiate between memory and imagination requires the imagination as 'memory' and 'imagination' are concepts.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on May 26, 2023 19:52:40 GMT
1+1 can be observe dually as illogical as it applies to an infinite number of things. This is the paradox of clarity; the clearer we are in one aspect of reality the more ambiguous we are in other parts. It is like seeing the tree instead of the forest. Math is not completely logical from another standpoint, an example of this is the square root of 2. We are only able to calculate square roots properly because Newton devised his formulae for deriving square roots. There is nothing illogical about it.
Empirically we can generate 2^0.5 (square root of 2) by just measuring off 2 perpendicular lines of length = 1.
It only seems to lack perfect definition from the perspective of our number system, but from the perspective of pure ratios, its a very particular definite measurement.
How did Newton get that formula though? It had to be beyond logic.
Ehh...not entirely: "No one actually knows who invented the square root, but it is thought that the knowledge of square roots originally came from dividing areas of land into equal parts so that the length of the side of a square became the square root of its area. The Babylonians and Greeks have been credited with the discovery of Heron’s method, the precursor of Newton’s iterative method, although Indian mathematicians are thought to have used a similar system around 800BC. The Egyptians calculated square roots using an inverse proportion method as far back as 1650BC. Chinese mathematical writings from around 200BC show that square roots were being approximated using an excess and deficiency method. In 1450AD Regiomontanus invented a symbol for a square root, written as an elaborate R. The square root symbol √ was first used in print in 1525." "Recursive algorithms, such as Newton’s method, start with an approximation, or guess, of the square root and find the higher order digits first. Such iterative methods can be carried out on a computer using floating point arithmetic, but they are usually difficult to implement for very large numbers and computational difficulty can arise with the division operation. More recently, computational number theory, the area of number theory concerned with finding and implementing efficient computer algorithms, has enabled the development of algorithms involving sieve methods to decide whether or not a positive integer is a perfect power." researchoutreach.org/articles/discovering-perfect-squares-building-square-roots/#:~:text=Chinese%20mathematical%20writings%20from%20around,used%20in%20print%20in%201525. Now that point aside; the fact that we can use something logical, such as the square root, and result in irrationality (i.e. the square root of 2) necessitates mathematics as not being entirely rational. 'If' memory serves, emphasis on 'if', the cult of Pythagoras disbanded their belief in the rationality of numbers determining everything when a member observed the irrational nature of the square root of 2.
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Post by jonbain on May 27, 2023 14:56:07 GMT
xxxxxxxxxIts ironic that your statement says more about language than math. The term 'irrational number' has an entirely different meaning to somebody actually being 'irrational'. Almost polar opposite meanings in a subtle kinda way! The point is there are always rounding errors in any measurement of any actual system. So that there are often rounding errors in calculations does not make these 'illogical'. As a point, an ordinary pocket calculator can measure a distance of a light-year, to within a fraction of a millimeter. This does not make the calculator 'irrational', as in 'illogical'. The typical error of the so-called 'stupid' is to conflate the word itself with the meaning of the word. Not everyone called 'Kevin' is the same as everyone else called 'Kevin'. This is yet more proof of the fundamental duality of reason. Its Plato's 'cave of shadows' all over again.
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Post by MAYA-EL on May 27, 2023 16:40:04 GMT
As I've already said the difference between the 2 is in action and the similarities are because both happen within man, naturally you can't see the separation because you probably lack the rational stability required to not be labeled by the DSM-5 The fact that both happen within man necessitates a connection between the two through man. Are they separate in some respects? Yes. Are they connected in some respects? Yes. To differentiate between memory and imagination requires the imagination as 'memory' and 'imagination' are concepts. No your wrong but just like i wouldn't waste my time trying to teach a toddler how to boost a Honda Civic likewise I won't waste my time trying to explain why you're wrong to you seeing as you havent understood anything this entire dialogue You have convinced me that your broken in some way shape or form mentally and this handicaps you to where certain things just cannot be grasped no matter how the other person explains them.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 2, 2023 19:04:16 GMT
xxxxxxxxx Its ironic that your statement says more about language than math. The term 'irrational number' has an entirely different meaning to somebody actually being 'irrational'. Almost polar opposite meanings in a subtle kinda way! The point is there are always rounding errors in any measurement of any actual system. So that there are often rounding errors in calculations does not make these 'illogical'. As a point, an ordinary pocket calculator can measure a distance of a light-year, to within a fraction of a millimeter. This does not make the calculator 'irrational', as in 'illogical'. The typical error of the so-called 'stupid' is to conflate the word itself with the meaning of the word. Not everyone called 'Kevin' is the same as everyone else called 'Kevin'. This is yet more proof of the fundamental duality of reason. Its Plato's 'cave of shadows' all over again. 1. To say someone is rational is to say that their words and actions are proportional, this proportionality is a ratio. To say a number is rational is to say it has ratios. The absence of ratios in an irrational number and the absence of ratios in an irrational person reflects a common meaning in "irrational" regardless of whether it is mathematical or not. 2. The fact that errors can be made in measurement, as well as the fact that errors cannot be avoided, necessitates an absence of truth in the observation. A calculator which cannot properly calculate something is irrational as the calculation is what makes it rational.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 2, 2023 19:05:49 GMT
The fact that both happen within man necessitates a connection between the two through man. Are they separate in some respects? Yes. Are they connected in some respects? Yes. To differentiate between memory and imagination requires the imagination as 'memory' and 'imagination' are concepts. No your wrong but just like i wouldn't waste my time trying to teach a toddler how to boost a Honda Civic likewise I won't waste my time trying to explain why you're wrong to you seeing as you havent understood anything this entire dialogue You have convinced me that your broken in some way shape or form mentally and this handicaps you to where certain things just cannot be grasped no matter how the other person explains them. Facepalm...for claiming not wanting to waste time you wrote quite a bit.....
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