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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 15, 2021 18:49:56 GMT
1. If something exists then there is a degree of truth in it.
2. That which exists is that which is observed.
3. All mental and physical phenomena exist as they are observed either empirically or abstractly.
What do you believe?
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Post by fschmidt on Jun 19, 2021 2:25:10 GMT
I have observed hallucinations. So my hallucinations exist. So there is a degree of truth in them. Is this right?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 19, 2021 6:19:07 GMT
I believe that a person shouldn't have to believe in anything to make it in life .
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Post by antor on Jun 19, 2021 14:28:06 GMT
1. If something exists then there is a degree of truth in it. 2. That which exists is that which is observed. 3. All mental and physical phenomena exist as they are observed either empirically or abstractly. What do you believe? 1. Yes kind of. Truth to me involves some evaluation/comparison of a statement about an object or thought. There must be a value axis when you speak of "degree of" truth. What is measured? Truth about its own existence is that what you're after? In that case I think I agree. 2. Connected to 1, how do you observe "pure truth" as I meantioned 3. I believe theres an underlying physical phenomena always. Electricity, neurons, in the brain for example.
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Post by antor on Jun 20, 2021 17:01:03 GMT
Ok that was more like a reply. My guess is. Trying to put as short as possible:
Through controlled evolution we were created by aliens made of dark matter, as a safeguard against other aliens which may not be made of dark matter.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Jun 21, 2021 18:26:53 GMT
1. If something exists then there is a degree of truth in it. 2. That which exists is that which is observed. 3. All mental and physical phenomena exist as they are observed either empirically or abstractly. What do you believe? 1. Yes kind of. Truth to me involves some evaluation/comparison of a statement about an object or thought. There must be a value axis when you speak of "degree of" truth. What is measured? Truth about its own existence is that what you're after? In that case I think I agree. 2. Connected to 1, how do you observe "pure truth" as I meantioned 3. I believe theres an underlying physical phenomena always. Electricity, neurons, in the brain for example. Dealing With Reality Is the Only Healthy Function of the Mind
Distorted perception has no truth value. If the images are created in your own mind and not created by reality, then they can't have any value whatsoever.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2021 19:29:47 GMT
1. If something exists then there is a degree of truth in it. 2. That which exists is that which is observed. 3. All mental and physical phenomena exist as they are observed either empirically or abstractly. What do you believe? 1. Yes kind of. Truth to me involves some evaluation/comparison of a statement about an object or thought. There must be a value axis when you speak of "degree of" truth. What is measured? Truth about its own existence is that what you're after? In that case I think I agree. 2. Connected to 1, how do you observe "pure truth" as I meantioned 3. I believe theres an underlying physical phenomena always. Electricity, neurons, in the brain for example. 1. A degree is the reflection of a phenomenon through a repetition of the phenomenon resulting in an image. This image is the phenomenon repeated in a new form. 2. We observe pure truth through reflection. We observe the image as a phenomenon connected to the source. This source is the point. 3. If there is an underlying physical phenomenon then there is an underlying physical phenomenon responsible for the physical phenomenon and we result in a loop. This loop guides this act of reflection thus we know of a form which exists beyond the physical.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2021 19:31:35 GMT
I have observed hallucinations. So my hallucinations exist. So there is a degree of truth in them. Is this right? The hallucination of water is the appearance of water where there is none. This image exists yet is not connected to its source, ie water. The hallucination is always built upon a prior image but observes the disconnect between one image and another.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2021 19:32:20 GMT
I believe that a person shouldn't have to believe in anything to make it in life . Yet one believes making it in life is a solid priority. One cannot escape belief.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2021 19:32:51 GMT
Ok that was more like a reply. My guess is. Trying to put as short as possible: Through controlled evolution we were created by aliens made of dark matter, as a safeguard against other aliens which may not be made of dark matter. And what created the aliens?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2021 19:33:44 GMT
1. Yes kind of. Truth to me involves some evaluation/comparison of a statement about an object or thought. There must be a value axis when you speak of "degree of" truth. What is measured? Truth about its own existence is that what you're after? In that case I think I agree. 2. Connected to 1, how do you observe "pure truth" as I meantioned 3. I believe theres an underlying physical phenomena always. Electricity, neurons, in the brain for example. Dealing With Reality Is the Only Healthy Function of the Mind
Distorted perception has no truth value. If the images are created in your own mind and not created by reality, then they can't have any value whatsoever. That necessitates a disconnect between the mind and reality then the mind exists as part of reality.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 22, 2021 3:26:18 GMT
I believe that a person shouldn't have to believe in anything to make it in life . Yet one believes making it in life is a solid priority. One cannot escape belief. I agree that we cannot escape having beliefs but we do choose to add more beliefs into our daily life them necessary IE religion/Tech And a person doesn't necessarily "believe" in survival because survival is an unconscious instinct
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Post by joustos on Jun 22, 2021 15:35:28 GMT
I believe that a person shouldn't have to believe in anything to make it in life . Yet one believes making it in life is a solid priority. One cannot escape belief. I don't intend to enter the topic of your discussion, but only to make some remarks on the ways you are thinking or, necessarily, on the language in which your thinking is expressed. "Making it in life" obviously means succeeding in forging one's life in such a way that it will be independent, self-reliable, and sufficient to provide for itself (and possibly a family). Well, in this sense, "making it in life" is a value or an aspiration of some people, but not necessarily of all people. So, we can call it a cultural/ethnic value or belief and may not attribute it to humans indiscriminately. (It is a "solid priority" or fundamental belief for White Americans, but not for all Americans.) // It is true that in order to make it in life, one does not, and should not, have some specific beliefs,.... except the belief [or the instinct or the Wille zur Macht] to make it, and thus to be autonomous, or the corollary "Arbeit macht Frei" (Work makes one free/independent). A belief is not a mere mental assent; it is, or can be, a driving force, a "drive".
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 22, 2021 17:51:41 GMT
Yet one believes making it in life is a solid priority. One cannot escape belief. I don't intend to enter the topic of your discussion, but only to make some remarks on the ways you are thinking or, necessarily, on the language in which your thinking is expressed. "Making it in life" obviously means succeeding in forging one's life in such a way that it will be independent, self-reliable, and sufficient to provide for itself (and possibly a family). Well, in this sense, "making it in life" is a value or an aspiration of some people, but not necessarily of all people. So, we can call it a cultural/ethnic value or belief and may not attribute it to humans indiscriminately. (It is a "solid priority" or fundamental belief for White Americans, but not for all Americans.) // It is true that in order to make it in life, one does not, and should not, have some specific beliefs,.... except the belief [or the instinct or the Wille zur Macht] to make it, and thus to be autonomous, or the corollary "Arbeit macht Frei" (Work makes one free/independent). A belief is not a mere mental assent; it is, or can be, a driving force, a "drive". What it means to me is to survive and not die or be killed but to live to face tomorrow A much more animalistic Viewpoint as opposed to a societal expectation
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Post by antor on Jun 23, 2021 14:57:05 GMT
Ok that was more like a reply. My guess is. Trying to put as short as possible: Through controlled evolution we were created by aliens made of dark matter, as a safeguard against other aliens which may not be made of dark matter. And what created the aliens? God or lucky chemical reactions or... it doesn't really matter. Just like "what created God?" doesn't really matter to most christians.
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