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Post by fschmidt on Nov 5, 2017 7:22:06 GMT
Are the sexes segregated in Orthodox service?
This may seem an odd question, but I have spent a lot of time looking at religions to determine which ones have the strength to resist the degeneracy of modern culture, and one unmistakable pattern that I noticed is that all strong religions segregate the sexes in service. Doing this is common sense since it is easier to focus on the service if you aren't surrounded by the opposite sex. And to my knowledge, all traditional religions in history have segregated the sexes. Only during times of degeneracy is this practice suspended.
I know that here in America, Orthodox churches do not segregated the sexes, which is why I wrote off this religion as being worthless from my perspective. But maybe Orthodox churches are different abroad, I don't know. In any case, I attend mosque these days, but I am still somewhat curious about whether Christianity has any hope at all for the future.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 16, 2017 23:01:05 GMT
In the Orthodox Church there is no division of the sexes! We are all sinners and servants of God. Sin is evil but the person is not able to resist this fully in our world! In Church people go to pray and to ask God's forgiveness for their sins! I Speak as an Orthodox!  |
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Post by fschmidt on Dec 22, 2017 7:16:28 GMT
Update from me on this I am still on families, especially spouses sitting together in church since God wants families together and spouses. Did you read the 2 links I posted earlier in this thread? They make solid arguments which no one has responded to. I don't have much to add. I would add that the primary purpose of religious service is to strengthen one's connection to God, and the secondary purpose is to strengthen one's connection to one's religious community. Religious service is not for the purpose of family socializing since there should be plenty of time for this at home. And I will add again that I have seen clearly that all solid religions in terms of rejecting modern insanity all separate the sexes in religious service. I have no doubt that what Romeo wrote about Poland is accurate, and this reflects the weakness of Catholicism. This is why modern Catholic and Protestant cultures deserve to be wiped out, and I am sure that Islam is up to the task of taking care of this. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 22, 2017 7:22:44 GMT
Update from me on this I am still on families, especially spouses sitting together in church since God wants families together and spouses. Did you read the 2 links I posted earlier in this thread? They make solid arguments which no one has responded to. I don't have much to add. I would add that the primary purpose of religious service is to strengthen one's connection to God, and the secondary purpose is to strengthen one's connection to one's religious community. Religious service is not for the purpose of family socializing since there should be plenty of time for this at home. And I will add again that I have seen clearly that all solid religions in terms of rejecting modern insanity all separate the sexes in religious service. I have no doubt that what Romeo wrote about Poland is accurate, and this reflects the weakness of Catholicism. This is why modern Catholic and Protestant cultures deserve to be wiped out, and I am sure that Islam is up to the task of taking care of this. Yes, I read both. And no church is not for socializing I agree. And I don't mean separating sexes is bad at all. Actually, it is best and especially if there is a problem otherwise. Some religions let males and females be way too close together or and that is in no way ever ok. And the solid religions really are those who know how to keep distances between sexes because otherwise such religions just don't teach correctly. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 7:52:15 GMT
Yes, not just christianity, but any type of the fundamentalist practices is usually associated with shunning away the opposite genders.
There's a reason behind it. IT is mainly done to control the senses. The first part of which is usually associated with completing conquering all the materialisitic and carnal desires. Only when, these worldly attachments are conquered, then, people would be able to conquer their mind, and after this, comes the attainment of the supreme or the highest god and attain liberation.
In sanskrit, it is known as Atman or soul. The goal actually is to get the soul liberated.
Though it is not easy.
But, there's another thing. One can also attain liberation by performing demonic activities also.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 7:52:32 GMT
And demonic activities leads to liberation quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 7:53:48 GMT
Thats why people like alisteir crowley also became masters, though, he did whatever is not in bible.
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Post by fschmidt on Dec 22, 2017 7:56:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 7:58:13 GMT
This is the toughest question. What is meant by liberation. Now, some say, the cycle of birth and death. Though, no one is clear, whether we attain it or not. In some culture, re-birth is written, though some other culture deny it. |
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Post by fschmidt on Dec 22, 2017 8:10:18 GMT
This is the toughest question. What is meant by liberation. Now, some say, the cycle of birth and death. Though, no one is clear, whether we attain it or not. In some culture, re-birth is written, though some other culture deny it. I see, it is something like salvation which could be described as liberation from badness after death, whatever form that badness may take. But then I have to ask why you believe that demonic activities lead to liberation? The general belief is that demonic activities produce immediate rewards with a high price to pay after death. (The religions I know are Old Testament, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, so this is my viewpoint.) |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Dec 22, 2017 8:23:08 GMT
Update from me on this I am still on families, especially spouses sitting together in church since God wants families together and spouses. Did you read the 2 links I posted earlier in this thread? They make solid arguments which no one has responded to. I don't have much to add. I would add that the primary purpose of religious service is to strengthen one's connection to God, and the secondary purpose is to strengthen one's connection to one's religious community. Religious service is not for the purpose of family socializing since there should be plenty of time for this at home. And I will add again that I have seen clearly that all solid religions in terms of rejecting modern insanity all separate the sexes in religious service. I have no doubt that what Romeo wrote about Poland is accurate, and this reflects the weakness of Catholicism. This is why modern Catholic and Protestant cultures deserve to be wiped out, and I am sure that Islam is up to the task of taking care of this. Yes! I am convinced that Protestantism and Catholicism will be destroyed! The problem is not in the teaching of these churches, but in the society of the countries that they dominate! Do not forget the simple fact - the richer people live, the farther they are from spiritual affairs. |
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Post by Supermentalita on Dec 26, 2017 19:44:18 GMT
I used to live in Bulgaria, and far as I can remember men and women were always mixed during the Church service. I think it differences per Church to be honest.
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Post by thearistotelliancopt on Jan 4, 2018 22:03:38 GMT
Yes the sexes are segregated in my orthodox church.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 4, 2018 23:14:42 GMT
Yes the sexes are segregated in my orthodox church. What is your patriarchy? |
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Post by thearistotelliancopt on Jan 5, 2018 0:42:57 GMT
Did you read the 2 links I posted earlier in this thread? They make solid arguments which no one has responded to. I don't have much to add. I would add that the primary purpose of religious service is to strengthen one's connection to God, and the secondary purpose is to strengthen one's connection to one's religious community. Religious service is not for the purpose of family socializing since there should be plenty of time for this at home. And I will add again that I have seen clearly that all solid religions in terms of rejecting modern insanity all separate the sexes in religious service. I have no doubt that what Romeo wrote about Poland is accurate, and this reflects the weakness of Catholicism. This is why modern Catholic and Protestant cultures deserve to be wiped out, and I am sure that Islam is up to the task of taking care of this. Yes! I am convinced that Protestantism and Catholicism will be destroyed! The problem is not in the teaching of these churches, but in the society of the countries that they dominate! Do not forget the simple fact - the richer people live, the farther they are from spiritual affairs. Protestantism no doubt but Catholicism in not so sure. Protestantism has become so liberal and unbiblical that it will likely die out by Catholicism because of its structure probably won't. |
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Post by Διαμονδ on Jan 5, 2018 0:48:13 GMT
Yes! I am convinced that Protestantism and Catholicism will be destroyed! The problem is not in the teaching of these churches, but in the society of the countries that they dominate! Do not forget the simple fact - the richer people live, the farther they are from spiritual affairs. Protestantism no doubt but Catholicism in not so sure. Protestantism has become so liberal and unbiblical that it will likely die out by Catholicism because of its structure probably won't. Catholicism - just depends on Vatican! If something happens to the Vatican, then there will not be their community. |
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