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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 2:22:43 GMT
Modern culture is an infectious disease that causes depravity. Do you care about this? Do you want to resist depravity?
I ask because I want to organize some means of resisting modern culture. Unlike my previous attempts, I want to do this in a way that works whatever your religion is. All religions are welcome, but naturally I would expect members of conservative religions like Islam and Orthodox Christianity to be more likely to be interested. But regardless of your religion, please let me know if you are interested in working to resist depraved modern culture. I want to discuss ideas about how we could do this.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 2:42:25 GMT
Well, you and I wouldn't agree on what should be done. I believe you've said you would want to kill off all those who are 'infected' with modern culture. The Christian way would be to tell them truth in love and pray they turn away from their sinful ways to Christ, and to let God deal with those who don't. Telling them the truth in love could be done in re-educating them, so we would have to get rid of the public education system or maybe just the curriculum which promotes modern culture. There's also what we see on television and social media that very heavily promotes modern culture; it infects our youth at a young age, but this falls back on parents not teaching or protecting their children.. and there isn't much that anyone can do to change how parents take care of their children. The only thing we can do is pray, keeping telling others the truth in love, and warning them of the impending judgment that God will conduct.
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 3:18:22 GMT
DKTrav88, the Mennonites would agree with me, not you, and they are Christian. James, from the New Testament, would also agree with me, not you. They would agree that people should live up to standards to be part of decent community, and that those who fail to live up to standards should be thrown out. That is all that is really required to resist modern culture.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 19, 2019 3:25:17 GMT
I would say no tv or people watching in general. You're only gonna see the bad on there. So the less you see the better it is to avoid it. You will only be taught depravity and that is not the way to a good life here.
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 3:57:33 GMT
I would say no tv or people watching in general. Of course. But the point is to organize a community of people who share rules like this.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 19, 2019 4:07:09 GMT
I would say no tv or people watching in general. Of course. But the point is to organize a community of people who share rules like this. Yeah basically like a riot and a community formed. A center [as in a building] for ways to help each other stay focused and away from modern culture.
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 4:18:48 GMT
Yeah basically like a riot and a community formed. A center [as in a building] for ways to help each other stay focused and away from modern culture. Probably not a building. I am not trying to start a religion, and people will belong to religions that have their own buildings. It would be enough for a group to meet weekly anywhere to work together on this. Maybe I will use meetup.com .
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 19, 2019 4:24:54 GMT
Yeah basically like a riot and a community formed. A center [as in a building] for ways to help each other stay focused and away from modern culture. Probably not a building. I am not trying to start a religion, and people will belong to religions that have their own buildings. It would be enough for a group to meet weekly anywhere to work together on this. Maybe I will use meetup.com . No, I didn't mean a religion. But yeah a meet up or get together. A support group too even so those struggling with modern life can attend and ask for advice and so on.
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 4:30:55 GMT
But yeah a meet up or get together. A support group too even so those struggling with modern life can attend and ask for advice and so on. Yes, that's exactly it. Do you have suggestions about how to organize this? Do you know any Christian groups that may be interested in something like this? I expect that most members would be Muslim.
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Post by Elizabeth on Jan 19, 2019 4:55:36 GMT
But yeah a meet up or get together. A support group too even so those struggling with modern life can attend and ask for advice and so on. Yes, that's exactly it. Do you have suggestions about how to organize this? Do you know any Christian groups that may be interested in something like this? I expect that most members would be Muslim. Well, first there needs to be a place for this meet up/get together. I assume most would be religious or at least in the beginning because they will need to already see things the way you see it. So there needs to be a few people who are against the modern culture helping you get started. Then they'd need to speak up in places they attend on a weekly basis or even work. For example, let's say one is in a book group that meets once a week to discuss what they read. Then the person could start mentioning it to their friends there to come to the get together. Would be more effective if their friends thought the same as they did or just a bit the same to attend a get together about modern culture. Then during the get togethers it's important to encourage the members there to bring other like minded or curious people. Plus to also just inform people they run into. For example, one was at the gym and met a stranger. He can then say, "Hey, we have a get together this Wednesday at 7:30 where we just discuss life as it is today in this culture and stuff. Feel like joining?" Or something like that. Basically inviting people is important. Maybe even making fliers or invatation cards too with the meeting info. Something like that
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 6:05:50 GMT
DKTrav88, the Mennonites would agree with me, not you, and they are Christian. James, from the New Testament, would also agree with me, not you. They would agree that people should live up to standards to be part of decent community, and that those who fail to live up to standards should be thrown out. That is all that is really required to resist modern culture. Am I confused on what you would do? I've seen you say you would want people killed. Are you changing your stance? Because the Mennonites are pacificists and where does James say to kill people?
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 6:29:39 GMT
Am I confused on what you would do? I've seen you say you would want people killed. Are you changing your stance? Because the Mennonites are pacificists and where does James say to kill people? If I ruled America then I would kill people. But I am not going to rule America, so I am not going to kill anyone. Instead I resist modern culture much like the Mennonites do.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 6:41:32 GMT
Am I confused on what you would do? I've seen you say you would want people killed. Are you changing your stance? Because the Mennonites are pacificists and where does James say to kill people? If I ruled America then I would kill people. But I am not going to rule America, so I am not going to kill anyone. Instead I resist modern culture much like the Mennonites do. Okay, so why would they disagree with me? Is not re-educating people resistance to modern culture?
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Post by fschmidt on Jan 19, 2019 6:53:30 GMT
Okay, so why would they disagree with me? Is not re-educating people resistance to modern culture? "Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from every brother who walks irresponsibly and not according to the tradition received from us." -- 2 Thessalonians 3:6 It isn't enough to just educate people. You must keep away from evil, even if this includes Christians who fail to follow Christian morality.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jan 19, 2019 7:15:22 GMT
Okay, so why would they disagree with me? Is not re-educating people resistance to modern culture? "Now we command you, brothers, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, to keep away from every brother who walks irresponsibly and not according to the tradition received from us." -- 2 Thessalonians 3:6 It isn't enough to just educate people. You must keep away from evil, even if this includes Christians who fail to follow Christian morality. I don't think I advocated for being one with evil
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