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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 28, 2018 21:00:49 GMT
What would it mean for you if there is no God? In terms of every aspect of life.
I think we would simply be floating alone in the universe and can easily be destroyed by colliding with something. That's a scary thought.
This life will end up to simply be pointless and meaningless in every way.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on May 9, 2020 20:20:37 GMT
With the absence of one God comes a replacement by another God. For example if God is replaced in a belief system by a humanist interpretation, man becomes the God.
God is an overarching term as a apex of power and control.
The phenomenon which people believe represents the totality or summation of being takes on the role of God.
God is an inherently empty term which equivocates to an infinite variety of things. This is considering one definition of God is "infinite".
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Post by Neuron420 on May 13, 2020 23:42:49 GMT
Hi Elizabeth, sorry it has been awhile since I have been on. Thanks for the thoughtful replies.
Ok so let's do a hypothetical situation here since you do not believe in God and let's say He exists. So let's say God read what you wrote about this guy and was upset that you don't think He deserves the credit. God might say things like, "Who do you think formed his legs to even get to this job interview? Who do you think gave him a brain to realize that he needed a job to change his life for the better? And who do you think allowed him to even live that long to have a chance to change his life around? Would he even be where he is now if I didn't allow it?"
Well, a few things here; First, what kind of "god" gets upset about what I do? Isn't he the creator of all things? Doesn't he already know what you think, what you're going to think, what you have done, and what you are going to do? Doesn't he have a pre-destiny for you even before you are born? If "god" gave him all of his physical attributes and his brain, then didn't "god" allow him to go off the rails with his life in the first place? Please don't say, "well he has free will", because that is a copout. You can't have it both ways in which the man had free will to ruin his life, but it yet "god" now intervenes and provides him a way out of the mess that he "knew" would happen. That is not free will.
To some people religion doesn't exist and is just part of some people's imagination. However, not all these people take responsibility for their actions. Let's take my cousin for example. This is what she said to me before, "It really doesn't matter. I can do whatever I want whether good or bad and still die and it'll all end there and nothing will matter. It's really all pointless." To me she doesn't seem the kind to take responsibility for her actions by having God not exist. She seems in the "I don't care about life since life is short" stage. If anything she seems scarier this way like she can choose to kill you just because she felt like it.
I can't address your cousins issues, maybe she is an existentialist, I don't know. Existentialist believe (short version) that we are born with no real point or purpose, and that we spend our life in anxiety knowing we are going to die. They believe that if we can come to terms with that knowledge, then we can have a good and fulfilling life,(like I said, short version).
Why less divisive? If religion didn't exist it's just one less thing to be divisive on. They can be divisive on aliens, drugs, government, politics, etc. There will always be as many beliefs/points of view as there are people whether or not religion is in the picture.
Please notice that I did not say that people would not have anything to be divided over. People are people, and they will find the dumbest things to bicker about, I guess it is in our nature.
Well, each country has it's own laws and social expectations. So without religion will they all agree on having the identical law in every country? I am not sure that's possible and some laws will still seem arcane to others. The US is divided on the death penalty. Some states don't allow it in their law and some states do allow it. Canada has free health care and the USA doesn't...there will still be a ton of different laws despite religion. There will always be arcane laws because people are diverse. Also, many people don't like living their best life now...why would religion (something that they didn't bother with before) going extinct change them suddenly?
Think of all of the hang-ups some people have regarding sex, relationships, jobs, social standing, political beliefs and many more due to how they were raised in an abusive religious setting. Not all people, but many that have a lifetime of problems trying to live up too impossible standards, it makes them miserable. When I say "arcane laws", I am referring to things like Blue Laws, beer & liquor laws, gambling laws and others. This laws are forced upon people that don't even believe in religion, yet they have to live with it. There will always be laws, but does it seem fair to you that many of those laws are religious based? There will always be some people that are sef-destructive and all the religion in the world is not going to change them. Once again, that is a part of our human nature, unfortunately.
If religion didn't exist we would still lose loved ones in car accidents, to cancer, to viruses, to plane crashes, etc. The world will still face pain and strife. And if a parent loses a child in a car accident they might become depressed and all kinds of bad things can happen then. Or the people with mental illness...how can a schizophrenic turn off the button that urges him to cause physical harm if religion is gone?
I have worked closely with adults with chronic mental illness, and I have never seen one of them "saved" by any religion. On the other hand, I have seen them learn coping skills and self discipline through steady counseling, medication, self-reflection, love and understanding
I am not here to convert anyone. I believe you should live your genuine life, as long as you are not hurting others lives. I believe that you should be a good person and do the right things, not because a religion tells you to, but, because they are the right things to do. If there was a Jesus, and I don't believe there is, I think he would be shocked and appalled at what is called religion today, and at some of the people that call themselves "Christians". Cheers!!
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