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Post by honor on Sept 13, 2018 5:24:10 GMT
Hinduism is the oldest religion developed between 500BCE and 300CE.Respecting the faith of every religion is an essence of Hinduism.Its rituals and practices are totally science releted with lots of scientific and historic proofs which are found till today
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Post by ajay0 on Sept 18, 2018 12:31:59 GMT
The Arya Samaj have no connections to any nazi ideology. It has millions of adherents all over the world, and stands for the term Arya in the religious and cultural sense.
Many people from all over the world have become Aryas through the Arya Samaj.
one cannot make anyone aryans, just through these type of culture etc. And Aryans were specifically a group of people, ruling classes of ancient iran/north west portions of india, till punjab, some 5000 years back.
This is your personal opinion, and you are privileged to express it.
I tend to go with the ancient Hindu and Buddhist religious expression of the term.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 12:34:56 GMT
one cannot make anyone aryans, just through these type of culture etc. And Aryans were specifically a group of people, ruling classes of ancient iran/north west portions of india, till punjab, some 5000 years back.
This is your personal opinion, and you are privileged to express it.
I tend to go with the ancient Hindu and Buddhist religious expression of the term.
no, this is not my personal opinion. The cunneiform text and avestani text support this.
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Post by ajay0 on Sept 18, 2018 12:49:18 GMT
This is your personal opinion, and you are privileged to express it.
I tend to go with the ancient Hindu and Buddhist religious expression of the term.
no, this is not my personal opinion. The cunneiform text and avestani text support this.
They can be subjected to selective perception and distorted interpretation . The term Aryan was adopted as a racial category in the nineteenth century itself through the works of a pseudo-scholar named Arthur de Gobinead, drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda.
As Thomas Jefferson stated, " The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory."
As stated earlier, I go by the ancient Hindu and Buddhist definition of the term, which I consider as the timetested one . And there it ends.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 12:57:31 GMT
no, this is not my personal opinion. The cunneiform text and avestani text support this.
They can be subjected to selective perception and distorted interpretation . The term Aryan was adopted as a racial category in the nineteenth century itself through the works of a pseudo-scholar named Arthur de Gobinead, drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda.
As Thomas Jefferson stated, " The moment a person forms a theory, his imagination sees in every object only the traits which favor that theory."
As stated earlier, I go by the ancient Hindu and Buddhist definition of the term, which I consider as the timetested one . And there it ends.
rigvedic hymns predate hinduism and buddhism also.
and rigvedic hymns clearly shows about the migrations.
The Rigveda does not explicitly refer to an external homeland[46] or to a migration,[47] but later Vedic and Puranic texts do show the movement into the Gangetic plains.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 13:01:45 GMT
they are not indo aryan girls, actually.
That was madhuri dixit, who is close to indo aryan phenotype. preity zinta is indo brachid, but with a lighter skin.
Don't care what types they are . They are hot
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2018 13:29:30 GMT
//They can be subjected to selective perception and distorted interpretation . The term Aryan was adopted as a racial category in the nineteenth century itself through the works of a pseudo-scholar named Arthur de Gohbinead, drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda. // that was nazi true. They did all sort of misinterpreation, and useless eugenics program to get racial purity stock. What's more, they even turned a colony of viking raiders as heaven of pure races. Iceland. Iceland was a colony of norwegian raiders, and the bastard progenies of vikigns were sent their as prison, because they were outcasted. But just because they had the features of nazi's true aryan race, these people tried to create it as heaven of racial and genetic purity, which was outright nonsense. dev.grapevine.is/mag/articles/2014/03/06/a-nazis-disappointment-with-iceland/
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 7:51:08 GMT
// As stated earlier, I go by the ancient Hindu and Buddhist definition of the term, which I consider as the timetested one . And there it ends. // Honestly, how many of toda'sy hindus even resemble, any of the Parashurama, Ram, Arjuna, Krshna, Gautama Buddha, in today's time? What's the point of all this now? Hindus don't even look like any of these lords. So how can this just pertain to a cultural thing?
Its like a indian convert to islam or christianity saying that we are related to arab or vatican which is impossible
In BG 10, verse 37, krishna also derives his ancestry BG 10.37: Amongst the descendants of Vrishni, I am Krishna, and amongst the Pandavas I am Arjun. Know me to be Ved Vyas amongst the sages, and Shukracharya amongst the great thinkers. Aryans also had a term kulin, which means, ancestry. Ancestry was very much a part of the aryan people. hindus of today are not related to old aryans.
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Post by ajay0 on Sept 19, 2018 10:35:13 GMT
//They can be subjected to selective perception and distorted interpretation . The term Aryan was adopted as a racial category in the nineteenth century itself through the works of a pseudo-scholar named Arthur de Gohbinead, drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda. // that was nazi true. They did all sort of misinterpreation, and useless eugenics program to get racial purity stock. What's more, they even turned a colony of viking raiders as heaven of pure races. Iceland. Iceland was a colony of norwegian raiders, and the bastard progenies of vikigns were sent their as prison, because they were outcasted. But just because they had the features of nazi's true aryan race, these people tried to create it as heaven of racial and genetic purity, which was outright nonsense. dev.grapevine.is/mag/articles/2014/03/06/a-nazis-disappointment-with-iceland/
It is the same for all the other pseudo versions that have cropped up and are still cropping up.
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Post by ajay0 on Sept 19, 2018 10:41:48 GMT
// As stated earlier, I go by the ancient Hindu and Buddhist definition of the term, which I consider as the timetested one . And there it ends. // Honestly, how many of toda'sy hindus even resemble, any of the Parashurama, Ram, Arjuna, Krshna, Gautama Buddha, in today's time? What's the point of all this now? Hindus don't even look like any of these lords. So how can this just pertain to a cultural thing?
Its like a indian convert to islam or christianity saying that we are related to arab or vatican which is impossible
In BG 10, verse 37, krishna also derives his ancestry BG 10.37: Amongst the descendants of Vrishni, I am Krishna, and amongst the Pandavas I am Arjun. Know me to be Ved Vyas amongst the sages, and Shukracharya amongst the great thinkers.
How is all this related to 'ancestry' ! Krishna is actually stating that the Self or Brahman pervades all these personalities, including Arjun, Vyasa and Shukracharya.
Krishna also states thus ...
Among the Daitya demons I am the devoted Prahlada; among subduers I am time; among the beasts I am the lion, and among birds I am Garuda, the feathered carrier of Visnu. BG 10.30
Would this mean that Krishna is a descendant of a lion and bird !
Obviously not. He is stating all this from the vantage point of the Self or Brahman which pervades all.
A proper understanding of the upanishads and advaitan philosophy will help to grasp these points correctly without error or misinterpretation.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 10:50:03 GMT
//They can be subjected to selective perception and distorted interpretation . The term Aryan was adopted as a racial category in the nineteenth century itself through the works of a pseudo-scholar named Arthur de Gohbinead, drawing on misinterpreted references in the Rig Veda. // that was nazi true. They did all sort of misinterpreation, and useless eugenics program to get racial purity stock. What's more, they even turned a colony of viking raiders as heaven of pure races. Iceland. Iceland was a colony of norwegian raiders, and the bastard progenies of vikigns were sent their as prison, because they were outcasted. But just because they had the features of nazi's true aryan race, these people tried to create it as heaven of racial and genetic purity, which was outright nonsense. dev.grapevine.is/mag/articles/2014/03/06/a-nazis-disappointment-with-iceland/
It is the same for all the other pseudo versions that have cropped up and are still cropping up.
err no, arkaim burial sites have been found, and sintastha people had culture similar to rig veda.
Besides, how can interpretation of hindu nationalists be true?
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Post by ajay0 on Sept 19, 2018 11:03:08 GMT
It is the same for all the other pseudo versions that have cropped up and are still cropping up.
err no, arkaim burial sites have been found, and sintastha people had culture similar to rig veda.
Besides, how can interpretation of hindu nationalists be true?
Here I am talking about the Hindu/Buddhist definition of Arya and not the racial version put forward by some pseudo-scholars ( now deemed as incorrect) or that of Hindu nationalists .
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 11:16:01 GMT
err no, arkaim burial sites have been found, and sintastha people had culture similar to rig veda.
Besides, how can interpretation of hindu nationalists be true?
Here I am talking about the Hindu/Buddhist definition of Arya and not the racial version put forward by some pseudo-scholars ( now deemed as incorrect) or that of Hindu nationalists .
are not people in india racist with indians alone?
this is statement of tarun vijay, who don't even look like indo-irani tribes, statement on people from tamil nadu, who have somewhat more better and sharp features, at least, i have met good looking tamils and kerala people, compared to punjabis, but punjabis think that they are some ubermensch
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Post by ajay0 on Sept 19, 2018 11:34:13 GMT
Here I am talking about the Hindu/Buddhist definition of Arya and not the racial version put forward by some pseudo-scholars ( now deemed as incorrect) or that of Hindu nationalists .
are not people in india racist with indians alone?
this is statement of tarun vijay, who don't even look like indo-irani tribes, statement on people from tamil nadu, who have somewhat more better and sharp features, at least, i have met good looking tamils and kerala people, compared to punjabis, but punjabis think that they are some ubermensch
All kind of issues are there in India now , compounded by its 1.3 billion population. Tarun Vijay is not exactly known for his scholarship and indepth analysis. His comments are usually subjected to criticism and ridicule by the intelligentsia.
It all boils down to a loss of values and sattvic culture in India due to too much emphasis on materialism, moneymaking and lack of authentic spiritual and cultural leadership. But this is now being addressed to some extent.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 11:41:24 GMT
are not people in india racist with indians alone?
this is statement of tarun vijay, who don't even look like indo-irani tribes, statement on people from tamil nadu, who have somewhat more better and sharp features, at least, i have met good looking tamils and kerala people, compared to punjabis, but punjabis think that they are some ubermensch
All kind of issues are there in India now , compounded by its 1.3 billion population. Tarun Vijay is not exactly known for his scholarship and indepth analysis. His comments are usually subjected to criticism and ridicule by the intelligentsia.
It all boils down to a loss of values and sattvic culture in India due to too much emphasis on materialism, moneymaking and lack of authentic spiritual and cultural leadership. But this is now being addressed to some extent.
I don't think so, even today, many indian parents, the educated folks, don't raise their kids properly. They ask them to follow a life, instead of searching things on their own, learn from mistakes. There's no proper set up to develop hinduism.
I am not against hindu india or hinduism as such. But, right now, the present hinduism is nothing more than a caste hegemony, which today holds no relevance. I am saying this, despite being issued a caste brahmin certificate by constitution of India, that I want castes to be out.
And more over, this hindutva ideology is plain jain/baniya hegemony, from rajasthan, marwaris, gujratis etc.
At least, in karantaka elections, bjp was kicked out from here. Kerala, despite being a communist state, actually has shown ,how multi ethnicity has survived. many communities live in harmony in kerala.
this bjp's hinduism is completely non sensical.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2018 12:02:13 GMT
//They can be subjected to selective perception and distorted interpretation . The term Aryan was adopted as a racial category in the nineteenth century itself through the works of a pseudo-scholar named Arthur de Gobinead, //
I do agree, this anthropology actually was started by britishers and anglo saxons, in their colonies, not only in india, but wherever they went. Even in europe, they had done this type of racial segregation amongst their own white races, so even they are not untouched from this.
Those actually were teutonic anglo saxons, who were just ruling classes, and they wanted to keep their rule on these lines. Even irish were not spared, while vikings siphonned of girls from ireland, and thrown in iceland.
Aryans themselves were not ARYAN SUPREMACAISTS. They were central asian nomadic people, who used to establish kingdoms.
And in anyways, shitler's nordic racial supremacy was totally non sensical, in which, slavic people, who were the most aryan looking in their definitions, were kept out.
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