Ace
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Post by Ace on Aug 6, 2018 18:16:09 GMT
Hey ya can't argue with facts.
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james
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Post by james on Sept 3, 2018 17:10:33 GMT
Dictatorships are always more efficient... but they only represent the needs and desires of the dictator. Most prefer democracies where we all have our say. However my wife suggested life would be better if we were like robots or dolls and that we were not permitted to do bad things. Thus the answer to why god allows evil instead of being a dictator is obvious . God respects us and loves us so much he will not interfere with any individuals right to do what he wants. Sadly heaven and hell are not from god. They are a product of the consequences of our actions. Thus god lies in the conservation of energy eternally creating everything in some form or another including us and in Newton’s laws of motion resulting in consequences of actions good or bad heaven or hell respectively.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 3, 2018 17:28:13 GMT
Dictatorships are always more efficient... but they only represent the needs and desires of the dictator. Most prefer democracies where we all have our say. However my wife suggested life would be better if we were like robots or dolls and that we were not permitted to do bad things. Thus the answer to why god allows evil instead of being a dictator is obvious . God respects us and loves us so much he will not interfere with any individuals right to do what he wants. Sadly heaven and hell are not from god. They are a product of the consequences of our actions. Thus god lies in the conservation of energy eternally creating everything in some form or another including us and in Newton’s laws of motion resulting in consequences of actions good or bad heaven or hell respectively. But heaven existed before humans since it's God's Kingdom. How was it formed because of us? P.S. it's saying you're using mobile version. If you wish for a better layout and more access click on "desktop" at the bottom right of screen
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james
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Post by james on Sept 3, 2018 22:35:12 GMT
Heaven? What and or where and or when is “ heaven”? It is my personal understanding that the physical perception is an illusion everything is actually sub atomic energy forces. Add to that the fact nothing exists except as the firing of synapses. That is a binary process consisting of on and off of those forces. Since off means nothing and you s non existent only ONE exists. Everything is part of the one or it does not exist making reality a Singularity... at least when it comes to a physical perception and definition of it. existence seems to be the common denominator between the God concept which called Himself “ I AM” when asked by Moses who should he say sent him. And Descartes also said I think/exist therefore I”I AM”.. anything else is just a part of the matrix we create with our computer like processor.
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james
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Post by james on Sept 3, 2018 22:40:52 GMT
I spoke to your heaven comment I assume you equate that with some God kingdom. To define god as say creator and ruler of the universe merely requires the law of the conservation of energy to prove God is the creator eternally and Newton’s laws of motion to prove God as the Universe is the ruler of the Universe which includes whatever we are as questioned by Descartes. I AM ? God? Existence? Could it all just be a singularity imagining all this physical universe the way we could create a universe in a dream as we sleep?
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james
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Post by james on Sept 3, 2018 22:52:32 GMT
Speaking of dictators greed and selfish wants it was Maslow I turned to in order to understand mans relationship with one another. as I contemplated those needs I came to the realization that the physical needs of food shelter and security are diametrically opposed to the needs of love belonging self actualization purpose meaning esteem etc. In order to love and be loved one must sacrifice some of his security. In order to be a kind caring person and have high esteem and respect from self and others a person must sacrifice some of his food and shelter. If you harm or do not help others you are concidered evil. Those evil dictators you speak of are stuck in the paradigm of trying to satisfy their needs of security at the expense of satisfying their needs of love and self actualization. There is also the need of self ascension related to esteem needs of being the best person you can possibly be reaching out to that higher authority we perceive of as God.
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Post by Elizabeth on Sept 3, 2018 22:59:00 GMT
james well you mentioned God in your post saying that God loves us and stuff. So I was going off of the fact that you believed in God and asked where He dwells if not in heaven? But you're clarifying you don't believe in God or heaven or hell then? Basically you're only supporting what we can see then is what's real. But the actual statement, "If I can't see it, it doesn't exist" is an opinion not a fact. Parents like to play with their babies and cover their eyes and say to the baby "I can't see. Where are you?" And the baby laughs at such peekaboo games like that but sure just because the parent can't see the kid while covering their eyes it doesn't make the kid is nonexistant. Just like you're a new member here but before you joined us we didn't have proof you existed even though you did exist but we never saw you. So anything can exist even though we can't see it. Shrug
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