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Post by jonbain on Jul 13, 2018 19:53:25 GMT
Its a bit perturbing that this forum only seems to recognize the 3 divided types of Christianism: Protestant, Catholic, Orthodoxy.
I happen to consider such divisions the work of Satan, and those who buy into them have vested interests in collecting tithes, and thus are sacramentarians: not True Christians.
As a mystic, I see Christ's teachings as being transcendental to church. In the parable of the good Samaritan, he clearly shows that one's actions are what are vital, not which symbols one wears.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:13:26 GMT
well, by mysticism, it means, belief in supernatural forces, which are in nature, then, it is not a sin. It's a sin the if we try to use any supernatural mediums as a Christian though as scripture says. Only thing Christians must do is pray not anything supernatural in reaching out to God. Prayer does not change God but it changes the one who prays
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 9:13:50 GMT
What about hesychasm?
Hesychasm is a mystical tradition of contemplative prayer in the Eastern Orthodox Church. Apparently based on Jesus's injunction in the Gospel of Matthew that "when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray" hesychasm in tradition has been the process of retiring inward by ceasing to register the senses, in order to achieve an experiential knowledge of God.
History shows us that this mystical tradition was not originally practiced by any church, but was gradually accepted over time by the Orthodox Church. Why are people claiming the Orthodox Church has been the same since its foundation when they are accepting new traditions over time? The Catholic Church is guilty of this same thing shrug
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:14:12 GMT
ok i really need to laugh now ,. this is getting way too sober .
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 17, 2018 9:15:00 GMT
It's a sin the if we try to use any supernatural mediums as a Christian though as scripture says. Only thing Christians must do is pray not anything supernatural in reaching out to God. Prayer does not change God but it changes the one who prays Yes, but my point is a Christian doesn't use mysticism to reach out to God, just prayer. Shrug
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:17:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:20:20 GMT
Prayer does not change God but it changes the one who prays Yes, but my point is a Christian doesn't use mysticism to reach out to God, just prayer. and i said something rather to ponder upon, not exclusively linked towards your comment
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 17, 2018 9:20:26 GMT
It just looks like a rocket ship and making me want to think about space now
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 9:24:12 GMT
That isn’t true. Mao ZeDong was atheist, he killed 100 million people. Stalin was atheist, he killed over 30 million people. There’s also Pol Pot, Than Shwe, Kim Jong Il, Mussolini, and so on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:24:23 GMT
My cornerstone idea here is that even a belief in the Resurrection of Christ by s ome people is perceived as mysticism ..I'm not talking about paganism or magic and another is not a church thingI wanted to say this, that these witchcraft etc is not part of church and christianity.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:27:01 GMT
That isn’t true. Mao ZeDong was atheist, he killed 100 million people. Stalin was atheist, he killed over 30 million people. There’s also Pol Pot, Than Shwe, Kim Jong Il, Mussolini, and so on. and u can add religion to that as well
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:27:27 GMT
Prayer does not change God but it changes the one who prays Yes, but my point is a Christian doesn't use mysticism to reach out to God, just prayer. [img src=" s15.postimg.cc/s03hrcn23/images.jpg" src=" [/url]
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Post by DKTrav88 on Jul 17, 2018 9:33:15 GMT
That isn’t true. Mao ZeDong was atheist, he killed 100 million people. Stalin was atheist, he killed over 30 million people. There’s also Pol Pot, Than Shwe, Kim Jong Il, Mussolini, and so on. and u can add religion to that as well I wouldn’t add religion to that, but individuals just as all that I listed are individuals. I can’t generalize and say all atheists are like Mao ZeDong and Stalin, just as you shouldn’t generalize religion because of the actions of some religious leaders... Many blame Christianity for the crusades, but the crusades were political and the motivation was power and wealth by the Catholic Church. Christianity itself was not the motivation for the crusades.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:35:19 GMT
and u can add religion to that as well I wouldn’t add religion to that, but individuals just as all that I listed are individuals. I can’t generalize and say all atheists are like Mao ZeDong and Stalin, just as you shouldn’t generalize religion because of the actions of some religious leaders... Many blame Christianity for the crusades, but the crusades were political and the motivation was power and wealth by the Catholic Church. Christianity itself was not the motivation for the crusades. I am not generalizing anything, merely stating the facts and its just not Christianity so no need to get butt hurt , islam , judaism and countless sects in them who just decide to pop out and make something even more fancier .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:38:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2018 9:41:47 GMT
and u can add religion to that as well I wouldn’t add religion to that, but individuals just as all that I listed are individuals. I can’t generalize and say all atheists are like Mao ZeDong and Stalin, just as you shouldn’t generalize religion because of the actions of some religious leaders... Many blame Christianity for the crusades, but the crusades were political and the motivation was power and wealth by the Catholic Church. Christianity itself was not the motivation for the crusades. ahaa Catholic church ( Religion Checked)
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