Clovis Merovingian
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Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
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Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
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Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 12, 2023 11:34:17 GMT
This is a basic synopsis of the spiritual world and its inhabitants as depicted by the Bible, there's far more to it than this, but this is the central core of the truth of things. I have talked to God, I have met angels twice, and I have been attacked relentlessly by those called demons. The description are given of the demons here are absolutely on point. There is nothing at all laudable about them. They are extremely creepy, extremely evil, extremely depraved creatures. They are beings of chaos and death, and bring us only misery and suffering.
Give your allegiance to no other God but YHWH Jesus Christ because in meeting them I can tell you that these creatures are not worthy or deserving of your worship. They can give you nothing of value and will destroy you in the end if you follow them, or even listen to them too much. They make monsters of people otherwise created in God's image. They debase that which God created for good and they are a big reason, if not the main reason our world is in chaos, and they are numerous, they are everywhere, they surround you at all times every time, and they rule your nation, and this world.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 16, 2023 1:43:24 GMT
This is a basic synopsis of the spiritual world and its inhabitants as depicted by the Bible, there's far more to it than this, but this is the central core of the truth of things. I have talked to God, I have met angels twice, and I have been attacked relentlessly by those called demons. The description are given of the demons here are absolutely on point. There is nothing at all laudable about them. They are extremely creepy, extremely evil, extremely depraved creatures. They are beings of chaos and death, and bring us only misery and suffering. Give your allegiance to no other God but YHWH Jesus Christ because in meeting them I can tell you that these creatures are not worthy or deserving of your worship. They can give you nothing of value and will destroy you in the end if you follow them, or even listen to them too much. They make monsters of people otherwise created in God's image. They debase that which God created for good and they are a big reason, if not the main reason our world is in chaos, and they are numerous, they are everywhere, they surround you at all times every time, and they rule your nation, and this world. Why would i give my life to a god that knowingly tricked mankind then required the blood of his only son inorder to forgive mankind of sin thats only sin because god said it is?. When you break the spell of Christianity it is clear to see the insanity of the entire thing.
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,696
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 16, 2023 10:46:24 GMT
This is a basic synopsis of the spiritual world and its inhabitants as depicted by the Bible, there's far more to it than this, but this is the central core of the truth of things. I have talked to God, I have met angels twice, and I have been attacked relentlessly by those called demons. The description are given of the demons here are absolutely on point. There is nothing at all laudable about them. They are extremely creepy, extremely evil, extremely depraved creatures. They are beings of chaos and death, and bring us only misery and suffering. Give your allegiance to no other God but YHWH Jesus Christ because in meeting them I can tell you that these creatures are not worthy or deserving of your worship. They can give you nothing of value and will destroy you in the end if you follow them, or even listen to them too much. They make monsters of people otherwise created in God's image. They debase that which God created for good and they are a big reason, if not the main reason our world is in chaos, and they are numerous, they are everywhere, they surround you at all times every time, and they rule your nation, and this world. Why would i give my life to a god that knowingly tricked mankind then required the blood of his only son inorder to forgive mankind of sin thats only sin because god said it is?. When you break the spell of Christianity it is clear to see the insanity of the entire thing. God did not trick man. He put them on the earth creating them in his image, giving them dominion over it, allowing them to rule as his representation on earth. We had a choice, either follow God and rule by his wisdom, and choose life, or we could rule by our own wisdom, decide what is right or wrong for ourselves and choose death. Eat from the Tree of Life or the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Well, we wanted to be like gods and so we chose the latter, and look at what has become of this world. Look at the results of our actions. You say that sin is only sin because God says so, but I think that the one who created this world, it's laws, how it functions, and how everything works here knows better than we do what actions are beneficial and good and what actions are harmful and evil. The fact is we humans put our faith in our own reason and our own capacity for decision making and discernment for what is right and wrong when we are pathetically limited. We know know nothing truly of the world and the universe we live in. We certainly know more now than we did in history of course, but this is only a lesser degree of ignorance, most things are still hidden from us, likely the most important and consequential things. And even the individual human does not have running around in his brain the entirety of the deposit of human knowledge, which again, is still rather pitiful, and only knows what his species collectively knows in part. And even that knowledge could be wrong, both of the individual and the species and many points of it are fiercely debated. Likewise, though every person considers themselves rational, in truth, few are, even the most rational among us, and all to some degree are governed by our emotions, our biases based upon our negative and positive experiences and, as you say, our imaginations. Likewise we know not what will happen in the future, nor do we know everything, or perhaps even most things in the past, nor do we know what is outside of our perception in the present in secret rooms on the other side of the world or in your own country among powerful people, or even not so powerful people that will affect our and all of humanities lives someway or another. We also cannot truly predict how our actions will effect other peoples' lives with any certainty, whether cruel actions, or similarly actions one thinks are kind but paves the road to hell with good intentions. What one thinks maybe completely righteous and moral may in fact lead to untold misery for oneself and others. Some peoples actions, even seemingly very insignificant ones, may effect the whole of humanity one day. All of these variables and all of these things we do not know, and indeed cannot grasp because we are limited, woefully, pitifully limited. God grasps all of these things. This is what it truly means to be omniscient.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 16, 2023 13:13:47 GMT
Why would i give my life to a god that knowingly tricked mankind then required the blood of his only son inorder to forgive mankind of sin thats only sin because god said it is?. When you break the spell of Christianity it is clear to see the insanity of the entire thing. God did not trick man. He put them on the earth creating them in his image, giving them dominion over it, allowing them to rule as his representation on earth. We had a choice, either follow God and rule by his wisdom, and choose life, or we could rule by our own wisdom, decide what is right or wrong for ourselves and choose death. Eat from the Tree of Life or the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Well, we wanted to be like gods and so we chose the latter, and look at what has become of this world. Look at the results of our actions. You say that sin is only sin because God says so, but I think that the one who created this world, it's laws, how it functions, and how everything works here knows better than we do what actions are beneficial and good and what actions are harmful and evil. The fact is we humans put our faith in our own reason and our own capacity for decision making and discernment for what is right and wrong when we are pathetically limited. We know know nothing truly of the world and the universe we live in. We certainly know more now than we did in history of course, but this is only a lesser degree of ignorance, most things are still hidden from us, likely the most important and consequential things. And even the individual human does not have running around in his brain the entirety of the deposit of human knowledge, which again, is still rather pitiful, and only knows what his species collectively knows in part. And even that knowledge could be wrong, both of the individual and the species and many points of it are fiercely debated. Likewise, though every person considers themselves rational, in truth, few are, even the most rational among us, and all to some degree are governed by our emotions, our biases based upon our negative and positive experiences and, as you say, our imaginations. Likewise we know not what will happen in the future, nor do we know everything, or perhaps even most things in the past, nor do we know what is outside of our perception in the present in secret rooms on the other side of the world or in your own country among powerful people, or even not so powerful people that will affect our and all of humanities lives someway or another. We also cannot truly predict how our actions will effect other peoples' lives with any certainty, whether cruel actions, or similarly actions one thinks are kind but paves the road to hell with good intentions. What one thinks maybe completely righteous and moral may in fact lead to untold misery for oneself and others. Some peoples actions, even seemingly very insignificant ones, may effect the whole of humanity one day. All of these variables and all of these things we do not know, and indeed cannot grasp because we are limited, woefully, pitifully limited. God grasps all of these things. This is what it truly means to be omniscient. He put the tree they weren't supposed to eat from right in the middle of the garden and made it the best looking tree with the best looking fruit on it and then put a talking snake on it with a higher iq thsn they had inorder to tempt them and then said "im going to leave you alone now but dont eat from that really good looking tre in the middle of the place thats unavoidable because its bad and i will be pissed if you do even though you dont yet comprehend what good and bad is yet but thats besides the point, now i am leaving for no real reason ither then to let the snake phuck with you while your to stupid to understand good and bad ill be back later" and then what do you know they ate from it who would of guessed And they didn't die like god said they would (and yes god was talking about dieing right now and not some 900 yrs later )
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,696
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 16, 2023 13:34:34 GMT
God did not trick man. He put them on the earth creating them in his image, giving them dominion over it, allowing them to rule as his representation on earth. We had a choice, either follow God and rule by his wisdom, and choose life, or we could rule by our own wisdom, decide what is right or wrong for ourselves and choose death. Eat from the Tree of Life or the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. Well, we wanted to be like gods and so we chose the latter, and look at what has become of this world. Look at the results of our actions. You say that sin is only sin because God says so, but I think that the one who created this world, it's laws, how it functions, and how everything works here knows better than we do what actions are beneficial and good and what actions are harmful and evil. The fact is we humans put our faith in our own reason and our own capacity for decision making and discernment for what is right and wrong when we are pathetically limited. We know know nothing truly of the world and the universe we live in. We certainly know more now than we did in history of course, but this is only a lesser degree of ignorance, most things are still hidden from us, likely the most important and consequential things. And even the individual human does not have running around in his brain the entirety of the deposit of human knowledge, which again, is still rather pitiful, and only knows what his species collectively knows in part. And even that knowledge could be wrong, both of the individual and the species and many points of it are fiercely debated. Likewise, though every person considers themselves rational, in truth, few are, even the most rational among us, and all to some degree are governed by our emotions, our biases based upon our negative and positive experiences and, as you say, our imaginations. Likewise we know not what will happen in the future, nor do we know everything, or perhaps even most things in the past, nor do we know what is outside of our perception in the present in secret rooms on the other side of the world or in your own country among powerful people, or even not so powerful people that will affect our and all of humanities lives someway or another. We also cannot truly predict how our actions will effect other peoples' lives with any certainty, whether cruel actions, or similarly actions one thinks are kind but paves the road to hell with good intentions. What one thinks maybe completely righteous and moral may in fact lead to untold misery for oneself and others. Some peoples actions, even seemingly very insignificant ones, may effect the whole of humanity one day. All of these variables and all of these things we do not know, and indeed cannot grasp because we are limited, woefully, pitifully limited. God grasps all of these things. This is what it truly means to be omniscient. He put the tree they weren't supposed to eat from right in the middle of the garden and made it the best looking tree with the best looking fruit on it and then put a talking snake on it with a higher iq thsn they had inorder to tempt them and then said "im going to leave you alone now but dont eat from that really good looking tre in the middle of the place thats unavoidable because its bad and i will be pissed if you do even though you dont yet comprehend what good and bad is yet but thats besides the point, now i am leaving for no real reason ither then to let the snake phuck with you while your to stupid to understand good and bad ill be back later" and then what do you know they ate from it who would of guessed And they didn't die like god said they would (and yes god was talking about dieing right now and not some 900 yrs later ) The trees are symbols and what happened in Eden is simply what happens to all of us every day. Satan comes to tempt us with that old temptation, will we listen to God and do what he says or do what is right in our own eyes? This is just the first time this happened as per the Biblical story. The Hebrew word used for Day, when God says in the day you eat of it, you will die is bə·yō·wm. This is a collection of how it is used elsewhere in scripture. biblehub.com/hebrew/beyom_3117.htm It does not neccisarily mean that their going to die instantly. They lost access to the Tree of Life which was how they were getting immortality, thus they would die, because they were mortal.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 16, 2023 17:44:47 GMT
He put the tree they weren't supposed to eat from right in the middle of the garden and made it the best looking tree with the best looking fruit on it and then put a talking snake on it with a higher iq thsn they had inorder to tempt them and then said "im going to leave you alone now but dont eat from that really good looking tre in the middle of the place thats unavoidable because its bad and i will be pissed if you do even though you dont yet comprehend what good and bad is yet but thats besides the point, now i am leaving for no real reason ither then to let the snake phuck with you while your to stupid to understand good and bad ill be back later" and then what do you know they ate from it who would of guessed And they didn't die like god said they would (and yes god was talking about dieing right now and not some 900 yrs later ) The trees are symbols and what happened in Eden is simply what happens to all of us every day. Satan comes to tempt us with that old temptation, will we listen to God and do what he says or do what is right in our own eyes? This is just the first time this happened as per the Biblical story. The Hebrew word used for Day, when God says in the day you eat of it, you will die is bə·yō·wm. This is a collection of how it is used elsewhere in scripture. biblehub.com/hebrew/beyom_3117.htm It does not neccisarily mean that their going to die instantly. They lost access to the Tree of Life which was how they were getting immortality, thus they would die, because they were mortal. Ohh so now its not literal its just a representation got it, how convenient
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Post by jonbain on Dec 20, 2023 18:49:01 GMT
A parable is most often both literal and representative, and more besides.
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