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Post by jonbain on Dec 5, 2023 6:55:36 GMT
Idealism, Materialism, Reality; (and the schism between the moment and the transcendent.)
Materialists and Idealists seem locked in a perpetual struggle for dominance, and that is the reality that we must all negotiate daily. Of course the materialists shrug, confident that their numerical appraisals of the state of the world, are the final say. And yet they are oblivious to how, even though their numbers remain fixed, the context of those numbers can shift subtly; rendering them either meaningful or meaningless, depending on mere perspective. Or, those numbers may also have the mere guise of entrenched meaning, beneath which are ever-more sophisticated nebulae of the endless strata of pseudo-science. And this is the lure of the emotional vampire and its ambitions for Monopolist State. As these very paragraphs are engraved in cyberspace, so the Israel-Palestine conflict reaches crescendo; and I am asked:
Why and how the Israeli state is any different from white supremacists?
That question being too full of numinosity to answer rapidly, it then kaleidoscopes into a tapestry of ideas, woven by these fragile tools, called words. And because language is itself intrinsically full of holes and flaws we must weave those textures with great care. Whereas the insufferable ambiguity of Anglaise, requires that we need also observe with the sensitivity of one holding an ancient fabric, crumbling in time, with but a miniscule shard of half-light to glimpse beneath the covers of the world, into the nexus of Platonic forms that make up True Scots Reality. Before all opportunity crumbles into ashes.
More pragmatically, if it is possible, one should view any such phenomena, through two quite different semantic lenses. Much like any math calculation should be checked through two methods. More simply, two I's see better than one.
{1} The first lens with which to view the answer, is through the pragmatics of warfare. Here we consider the Allied decision at the crux of world war 2, to either endorse the soviets or the nazis. They had to choose one of those two, because if the axis and the soviets were to form a union against the allies, the task would have been virtually unattainable.
Their decision was to endorse communism rather than the greater evil of nazism. And we ask ourselves, why was such a decision made? What was the real motivation?
Regardless as to what the perceived and documented excuses may have been, my conclusion here is that philosophically speaking, communism is a transcendental system, whereas nazism is superficially material. Even though, communism itself claims materialism; the ethic that drives communism entails that its system is open to anyone.
So if one was to find oneself holding the short-ended stick of fate, in a communist state, one is sent for 'rehabilitation' in Gulag. Whereas in a nazi state, the bottom-feeders are rather exterminated regardless of any skills or worth, simply as a result of their hereditary fate. So it should be easy to see that communism is better than nazism simply as a matter of sheer materialist pragmatics. In a race-war, even the unborn are targets; as are women and children.
So to return to the question posed, the Hebrews or Judaic peoples, being at core, a religion, are at least as transcendental as the communists. Of course, the Jews are more than just that, though many individuals that are within Israel are perhaps as much crass materialists as the commies. The worst cases should not be held as the typical median examples of any philosophy. {Unless of course one seeks the challenges of Don Juan in the proverbial strawman}
{2} The second lens with which to view this topic is that of ecosystems and nature conservation. If one finds the first lens a bit foggy to comprehend, consider the simple fact that ecosystems with the most variation are better at surviving, than single cultured environments. This argument ignores/avoids/dismisses the schism between the transcendental and the material as being too subtle.
Thus the 'Jews' are a rare breed by comparison to the 'Whites'. Using this lens, the Native Americans, are the most valuable simply due to their having lost most in recent centuries. By this token, Whites, are an abundant species for which we need spare no specific favors, lest they attain complete monopoly and make the global ethno-cultural ecosystem a more vulnerable place as a consequence.
But what evidence exists that multicultural societies are better equipped to thrive in this world? Well, the non-racists easily defeated the fascists in world war two, which is a very realist observation. And I cannot think of a better argument than that, though of course the chimeric antagonist will accuse me of war-mongering... However it was the fascists and the racists that invaded and antagonized the disaster of ww2, both in the east and the west.
On a more civil tone, avoiding the catastrophes of group-think, and dogmatic tyranny before they reach such uniformist fanaticism might be more prudent. And certainly, such is more attainable in a multicultural environment, than the bland tunnel vision of a monoculture. However successful, that monoculture might be in objective terms, it will always be vulnerable due to its simplicity. And it will always be antagonistic due to its inherrent elitist structure.
The perfect example here, would be the might of the battleship Bismarck. The height of naval technology was rendered useless by one torpedo from a Swordfish biplane, that hit the battleship's only rudder. All manner of vastly lesser torpedo ships could then sink it from a safe distance without fear of the mightiest guns of the day. A little bit of diversity in the rudder system may have helped a bit there. That Germany had not a single aircraft carrier, itself speaks volumes as to its lack of diverse thinking.
So we can only conclude, that regardless of the philosophical lens that we use, the racist will always be the Omega dog of the pack; for its lack of capacity to think beyond surface features. The mind of the racist is itself the very definition of the primitive mind. Because it can only think in terms of the simplistic categories of 'race' which bear no resemblance to anything objectively measurable within the psyche of each individual person, or persona.
And it achieves this state of mind by being frozen in the moment due to fear. And as a consequence of such fear of introspection, it has little regard for past events, and thus even less predictive capacity for future events. It assumes all thought is based on fear; because that is all the thought it can recall. Mere intstinct without abstraction.
But lest it seem I am hungry for their demise, do not forget that the primitive racist beast itself, has a specific role to play in the sociopolitical ecosystem. PS Please don't feed the vampires.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 5, 2023 9:28:19 GMT
Technically every single human being is racist because it is deeply ingrained in are survival instincts, this is so we can tell the difference between someone from are tribe as they walk up to are camp as apose to someone from a foren enemies camp thats going to try to kill us
And it is why if there is a big group of lots of different ethnicities all together we will pick and favor other people that look more like we do because subconsciously we think that we will be able to get along with them the most.
And so everyone is racist, the problem arises when a person has hate for others when they identify them as different then they are
The way i see this war is that it is a group of humans that are at the mercy of there imaginations and are killing each other because of there religious (beliefs) which means that its all in there heads in there imagination and because they have not taken control of there mind and havnt defeated there imaginations they have been killing each other for hundreds of years and fundamentally speaking thousands of people have died for no good reason what so ever and thats a damn shame and a waste of peoples lives .
Unfortunately the Palestinians will keep trying to kill every single human so long as the Islamic religion is alive and in power because it makes it perfectly clear that all jews and Christians have to be killed no exceptions and so this blood bath will happen again only under a different and new name other then Hamas untill the day islam if completely forgotten.
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Post by jonbain on Dec 5, 2023 12:38:46 GMT
Technically every single human being is racist because it is deeply ingrained in are survival instincts,
So when, in the 1940's the majority of 'white' people thought it better to kill nazis than help them rape africa for the sake of ze vaderland, then was because ?
A) They were beguiled by smooth-singing Jazz singers to enlist. B) They were color blind C) The history of ww2 is a black-jew plot, and utter lies, dammit, lies i tell you! D) The allied forces were not human, but Atlanteans. E) The allied forces were not human, but diabolical robots. F) The Jehovah witnesses are to blame for reasons still to be reckoned. G) Huh?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 6, 2023 11:42:14 GMT
Technically every single human being is racist because it is deeply ingrained in are survival instincts,
So when, in the 1940's the majority of 'white' people thought it better to kill nazis than help them rape africa for the sake of ze vaderland, then was because ?
A) They were beguiled by smooth-singing Jazz singers to enlist. B) They were color blind C) The history of ww2 is a black-jew plot, and utter lies, dammit, lies i tell you! D) The allied forces were not human, but Atlanteans. E) The allied forces were not human, but diabolical robots. F) The Jehovah witnesses are to blame for reasons still to be reckoned. G) Huh?
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Post by jonbain on Dec 6, 2023 13:11:06 GMT
So when, in the 1940's the majority of 'white' people thought it better to kill nazis than help them rape africa for the sake of ze vaderland, then was because ?
A) They were beguiled by smooth-singing Jazz singers to enlist. B) They were color blind C) The history of ww2 is a black-jew plot, and utter lies, dammit, lies i tell you! D) The allied forces were not human, but Atlanteans. E) The allied forces were not human, but diabolical robots. F) The Jehovah witnesses are to blame for reasons still to be reckoned. G) Huh?
So you just completely don't understand what I said? You made a false claim, there was nothing to understand / not understand. Its just plain old-fashioned bollox.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 7, 2023 2:08:37 GMT
So you just completely don't understand what I said? You made a false claim, there was nothing to understand / not understand. Its just plain old-fashioned bollox.
I didn't make a false claim i told it how i see it from my perspective and then you replied with the exact thing that i said was the problem and your completely oblivious to it because your fully submerged in this social psychoses that people have fallen victom to . |
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Post by jonbain on Dec 8, 2023 11:36:16 GMT
The way i see this war is that it is a group of humans that are at the mercy of there imaginations and are killing each other because of there religious (beliefs) They are living in an over-populated desert, and there are no fish left in the med either, so they have little alternative. Either starve, or fight.Unfortunately the Palestinians will keep trying to kill every single human so long as the Islamic religion is alive and in power because it makes it perfectly clear that all jews and Christians have to be killed no exceptions and so this blood bath will happen again only under a different and new name other then Hamas untill the day islam if completely forgotten.
If you are quoting the Quran, the please give the exact reference, because you are making a serious accusation.
So before Mohamed, things were like the garden of eden, according to "Maya".
Why are you so cowardly that you use no real name or identity?
As it is, I have read one interpretation of the Koran, and it said that anyone who believes in the day of judgement is saved, but that it is unwise to be friends with jews & christians.
Never mind that your anti-religious fervor ignores the simple fact that the worst atrocities ever recorded were by 20th century Secular states.
But then you profess no alternative to either type of govt, and you cannot offer any alternative at all, never mind a worse one,
except you imply CCP with every blasphemy.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 9, 2023 0:46:48 GMT
The way i see this war is that it is a group of humans that are at the mercy of there imaginations and are killing each other because of there religious (beliefs) They are living in an over-populated desert, and there are no fish left in the med either, so they have little alternative. Either starve, or fight.Unfortunately the Palestinians will keep trying to kill every single human so long as the Islamic religion is alive and in power because it makes it perfectly clear that all jews and Christians have to be killed no exceptions and so this blood bath will happen again only under a different and new name other then Hamas untill the day islam if completely forgotten.
If you are quoting the Quran, the please give the exact reference, because you are making a serious accusation.
So before Mohamed, things were like the garden of eden, according to "Maya".
Why are you so cowardly that you use no real name or identity?
As it is, I have read one interpretation of the Koran, and it said that anyone who believes in the day of judgement is saved, but that it is unwise to be friends with jews & christians.
Never mind that your anti-religious fervor ignores the simple fact that the worst atrocities ever recorded were by 20th century Secular states.
But then you profess no alternative to either type of govt, and you cannot offer any alternative at all, never mind a worse one,
except you imply CCP with every blasphemy.
I am referring to the Hamas charter not the Quran. And i am not secular/atheist so if that was an atempted jab at me well it missed, besides hitler was Catholic so im not sure why you even point out such a tick for tack kind of thing? And you were right when you said that i dont give any alternative If i did then i would be no better then the people that want/do keep people in a sheep /slave mind stait so that they can be more easily controled , i just want people to learn to think and not let other people feed them what to think |
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Post by jonbain on Dec 10, 2023 15:22:46 GMT
If you are quoting the Quran, the please give the exact reference, because you are making a serious accusation.
So before Mohamed, things were like the garden of eden, according to "Maya".
Why are you so cowardly that you use no real name or identity?
As it is, I have read one interpretation of the Koran, and it said that anyone who believes in the day of judgement is saved, but that it is unwise to be friends with jews & christians.
Never mind that your anti-religious fervor ignores the simple fact that the worst atrocities ever recorded were by 20th century Secular states.
But then you profess no alternative to either type of govt, and you cannot offer any alternative at all, never mind a worse one,
except you imply CCP with every blasphemy.
I am referring to the Hamas charter not the Quran. And i am not secular/atheist so if that was an atempted jab at me well it missed, besides hitler was Catholic so im not sure why you even point out such a tick for tack kind of thing? And you were right when you said that i dont give any alternative If i did then i would be no better then the people that want/do keep people in a sheep /slave mind stait so that they can be more easily controled , i just want people to learn to think and not let other people feed them what to think
Your are utterly mistaken about Hitler because Catholicism does not teach to murder by the million.
It clearly says "thou shalt not kill" (the 6th commandment, btw)
So Adolf was just another common or garden variety psychopath.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 10, 2023 17:12:49 GMT
If you are quoting the Quran, the please give the exact reference, because you are making a serious accusation.
So before Mohamed, things were like the garden of eden, according to "Maya".
Why are you so cowardly that you use no real name or identity?
As it is, I have read one interpretation of the Koran, and it said that anyone who believes in the day of judgement is saved, but that it is unwise to be friends with jews & christians.
Never mind that your anti-religious fervor ignores the simple fact that the worst atrocities ever recorded were by 20th century Secular states.
But then you profess no alternative to either type of govt, and you cannot offer any alternative at all, never mind a worse one,
except you imply CCP with every blasphemy.
I am referring to the Hamas charter not the Quran. And i am not secular/atheist so if that was an atempted jab at me well it missed, besides hitler was Catholic so im not sure why you even point out such a tick for tack kind of thing? And you were right when you said that i dont give any alternative If i did then i would be no better then the people that want/do keep people in a sheep /slave mind stait so that they can be more easily controled , i just want people to learn to think and not let other people feed them what to think If you're not secular or atheist, what are your religious or spiritual convictions if you do not mind me asking? |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 11, 2023 5:37:44 GMT
I am referring to the Hamas charter not the Quran. And i am not secular/atheist so if that was an atempted jab at me well it missed, besides hitler was Catholic so im not sure why you even point out such a tick for tack kind of thing? And you were right when you said that i dont give any alternative If i did then i would be no better then the people that want/do keep people in a sheep /slave mind stait so that they can be more easily controled , i just want people to learn to think and not let other people feed them what to think
Your are utterly mistaken about Hitler because Catholicism does not teach to murder by the million.
It clearly says "thou shalt not kill" (the 6th commandment, btw)
So Adolf was just another common or garden variety psychopath.
Alright, so Hitler's religious view were mentioned here. He did grow up an Austrian Catholic but that doesn't mean he remained so throughout his life. His religious views when he was doing the Nazi stuff were actually... weird. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler |
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Post by jonbain on Dec 11, 2023 15:17:30 GMT
Your are utterly mistaken about Hitler because Catholicism does not teach to murder by the million.
It clearly says "thou shalt not kill" (the 6th commandment, btw)
So Adolf was just another common or garden variety psychopath.
Alright, so Hitler's religious view were mentioned here. He did grow up an Austrian Catholic but that doesn't mean he remained so throughout his life. His religious views when he was doing the Nazi stuff were actually... weird. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
Be careful not to confuse the symbol with the ontology. iow False flags are as commonplace as True flags, not only in Scotland, but in the proverbial 'holy roman empire'.
Or need I say?-:
Not all that glisters is gold.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 11, 2023 23:12:38 GMT
I am referring to the Hamas charter not the Quran. And i am not secular/atheist so if that was an atempted jab at me well it missed, besides hitler was Catholic so im not sure why you even point out such a tick for tack kind of thing? And you were right when you said that i dont give any alternative If i did then i would be no better then the people that want/do keep people in a sheep /slave mind stait so that they can be more easily controled , i just want people to learn to think and not let other people feed them what to think If you're not secular or atheist, what are your religious or spiritual convictions if you do not mind me asking? What do you mean exactly? Can tou give me an example? |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Dec 11, 2023 23:13:55 GMT
I am referring to the Hamas charter not the Quran. And i am not secular/atheist so if that was an atempted jab at me well it missed, besides hitler was Catholic so im not sure why you even point out such a tick for tack kind of thing? And you were right when you said that i dont give any alternative If i did then i would be no better then the people that want/do keep people in a sheep /slave mind stait so that they can be more easily controled , i just want people to learn to think and not let other people feed them what to think
Your are utterly mistaken about Hitler because Catholicism does not teach to murder by the million.
It clearly says "thou shalt not kill" (the 6th commandment, btw)
So Adolf was just another common or garden variety psychopath.
they celebrated his birthday for many years after his passing. And he was cleansing the Earth because the Jews killed the Messiah and so is his version of payback so to speak but he was a believer. Granted he was definitely left field for any religion but nonetheless he was religious. |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Dec 12, 2023 2:42:07 GMT
If you're not secular or atheist, what are your religious or spiritual convictions if you do not mind me asking? What do you mean exactly? Can tou give me an example? You said that you are not secular or atheist, which means you must have some kind of religious or spiritual beliefs. Secular means the sphere apart from the religious, stemming from Saint Augustine's concept of the Cycular from his work City of God. Atheist means one does not believe in a God of any kind. If you are neither of these things it means you have a religion or believe in a God or gods, so I am just asking what your beliefs are. I could give a myriad of examples from Christianity, to Buddhism, to Platonism, to the worship of Pagan deities like the Norse gods, to the Animistic Shamanism of Amazonian Native tribes, or UFO cults like Heaven's Gate. I've even learned that in traditional Chinese paganism they believe in the Dao, which is essentially the force from Star Wars, but in Ancient China, it's what the Jedi religion is based upon in those movies. There are as many religious beliefs systems as their are stars in the sky. People even have their own personal beliefs unique to themselves which no one but them shares. I am asking what you believe about God, gods, magic, the supernatural, the spirit world, theology, or if you have some kind of philosophy you follow that mimics a religion like Confucianism to the point its called a religion that may or may not also include the belief in a deity or deities or the other things mentioned. You said that you've been involved in the occult and that you've used DMT and have seen other worlds for instance. This seems a fascinating topic that may have to do with this question. May you elaborate on such? |
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