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Post by jonbain on Jul 20, 2023 9:36:28 GMT
Did you have an enlightened fake-moon-landing day today?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 20, 2023 15:11:51 GMT
I thought you're talking about something personal. Plenty of excuses, personally I celebrate only dates which are important for me, or else don't celebrate if it reminds me of some trauma. For me June the 12, and actually any June is out of pleasure. The same, I don't celebrate birthdays, only numbers of hours, months, minutes, etc of my life. For instance, two years ago in August there was 12 345 days of my life (since I was born).
What do you think of that langind was true partially? I mean, there was a landing, but it was filmed in the studio later?
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Post by jonbain on Jul 22, 2023 9:32:05 GMT
I thought you're talking about something personal. Plenty of excuses, personally I celebrate only dates which are important for me, or else don't celebrate if it reminds me of some trauma. For me June the 12, and actually any June is out of pleasure. The same, I don't celebrate birthdays, only numbers of hours, months, minutes, etc of my life. For instance, two years ago in August there was 12 345 days of my life (since I was born). What do you think of that langind was true partially? I mean, there was a landing, but it was filmed in the studio later? This is personal to me. It does not get much more personal, in fact.
But its good to know that I am not the only one that finds birthdays to be pointless astrology.
The narrative you refer to, is laughable. The fact that it exists speaks volumes on its own.
The fake lunar landings are certainly a military tactic, so it can even be justified in the context of the cold war, most especially since Putin went all Stalin and stealin' and stuff.
The amount of pseudoscience in the world is accumulating as a result of this, however, and the degeneration of academia into a cesspool of sodomite filth is a consequence of illogical ideas being given an aura of truth via media fascism.
Perhaps Einstein's pseudoscience is a bit more personal though, and also a military tactic to prevent nukes being prolific.
One either loves the truth, or money.
They are increasingly mutually exclusive.
The only way past the crap, I can currently see, is to destroy the commies so that truth can have its say in the open light of liberty.
What a dog-show this little world is.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 22, 2023 18:09:30 GMT
I thought you're talking about something personal. Plenty of excuses, personally I celebrate only dates which are important for me, or else don't celebrate if it reminds me of some trauma. For me June the 12, and actually any June is out of pleasure. The same, I don't celebrate birthdays, only numbers of hours, months, minutes, etc of my life. For instance, two years ago in August there was 12 345 days of my life (since I was born). What do you think of that langind was true partially? I mean, there was a landing, but it was filmed in the studio later? This is personal to me. It does not get much more personal, in fact.
But its good to know that I am not the only one that finds birthdays to be pointless astrology.
The narrative you refer to, is laughable. The fact that it exists speaks volumes on its own.
The fake lunar landings are certainly a military tactic, so it can even be justified in the context of the cold war, most especially since Putin went all Stalin and stealin' and stuff.
The amount of pseudoscience in the world is accumulating as a result of this, however, and the degeneration of academia into a cesspool of sodomite filth is a consequence of illogical ideas being given an aura of truth via media fascism.
Perhaps Einstein's pseudoscience is a bit more personal though, and also a military tactic to prevent nukes being prolific.
One either loves the truth, or money.
They are increasingly mutually exclusive.
The only way past the crap, I can currently see, is to destroy the commies so that truth can have its say in the open light of liberty.
What a dog-show this little world is.
What do you think of Soviet using sputniks and Gagarin's fly in cosmos? Could it be also fake? |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 23, 2023 7:34:19 GMT
This is personal to me. It does not get much more personal, in fact.
But its good to know that I am not the only one that finds birthdays to be pointless astrology.
The narrative you refer to, is laughable. The fact that it exists speaks volumes on its own.
The fake lunar landings are certainly a military tactic, so it can even be justified in the context of the cold war, most especially since Putin went all Stalin and stealin' and stuff.
The amount of pseudoscience in the world is accumulating as a result of this, however, and the degeneration of academia into a cesspool of sodomite filth is a consequence of illogical ideas being given an aura of truth via media fascism.
Perhaps Einstein's pseudoscience is a bit more personal though, and also a military tactic to prevent nukes being prolific.
One either loves the truth, or money.
They are increasingly mutually exclusive.
The only way past the crap, I can currently see, is to destroy the commies so that truth can have its say in the open light of liberty.
What a dog-show this little world is.
What do you think of Soviet using sputniks and Gagarin's fly in cosmos? Could it be also fake? I see no evidence for it being faked at all. But I do believe through strong intuition and deduction that many soviet cosmonauts died attempting to get to the moon, though obviously they kept quiet about it. (And astronauts too).
Its the soviet's silence on the moon issue that is a hint. Often, NASA jingo's will contest that if the moon landings were faked then why did the soviets not make issue of it?
And that is a fair argument, but the reason can only be that the soviets have covered up their failed attempts and they do not want to admit it openly. If they point a finger at the Apollo farce, then it will open them up to the same scrutiny.
After all, why did they make no obvious attempts to put men beyond low-earth orbit?
They must have.
But this all is what is part of Putin's psychosis. He in himself has realized that Apollo was a farce. That is why suddenly they have reverted back to Soviet mentality.
Its seems the space-race was a gentleman's agreement to fuel the cold war as a space war, with the one landing on the moon being declared the 'winner'?
But even if it was not that formal, suddenly the soviets are just not as scared of americans as they were in the 80's.
The entire fascade of politics for the last 100 years is based on pseudoscience and media propaganda in so many ways.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 25, 2023 16:57:34 GMT
What do you think of Soviet using sputniks and Gagarin's fly in cosmos? Could it be also fake? I see no evidence for it being faked at all. But I do believe through strong intuition and deduction that many soviet cosmonauts died attempting to get to the moon, though obviously they kept quiet about it. (And astronauts too).
Its the soviet's silence on the moon issue that is a hint. Often, NASA jingo's will contest that if the moon landings were faked then why did the soviets not make issue of it?
And that is a fair argument, but the reason can only be that the soviets have covered up their failed attempts and they do not want to admit it openly. If they point a finger at the Apollo farce, then it will open them up to the same scrutiny.
After all, why did they make no obvious attempts to put men beyond low-earth orbit?
They must have.
But this all is what is part of Putin's psychosis. He in himself has realized that Apollo was a farce. That is why suddenly they have reverted back to Soviet mentality.
Its seems the space-race was a gentleman's agreement to fuel the cold war as a space war, with the one landing on the moon being declared the 'winner'?
But even if it was not that formal, suddenly the soviets are just not as scared of americans as they were in the 80's.
The entire fascade of politics for the last 100 years is based on pseudoscience and media propaganda in so many ways.
I guess your intuition isn't wrong. At least, I've heard about false flight, and people who died. Unfortunately, I can't tell about the sources now, it was long ago when I read about it. Russians have always been psychotics. I see no evidence of them to stop. Moreover, China is supplying them, especially about drones parts. This war the drones are extremely important. Double stupid is that the govt of Ukraine hasn't cared about drones development and production. That's a fantastic stupidity, or betrayal. Anyway, with China supply no sign for Russia to be stopped. All I want to hope for these next months if I die, it'll be done quickly. |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 26, 2023 13:43:15 GMT
I see no evidence for it being faked at all. But I do believe through strong intuition and deduction that many soviet cosmonauts died attempting to get to the moon, though obviously they kept quiet about it. (And astronauts too).
Its the soviet's silence on the moon issue that is a hint. Often, NASA jingo's will contest that if the moon landings were faked then why did the soviets not make issue of it?
And that is a fair argument, but the reason can only be that the soviets have covered up their failed attempts and they do not want to admit it openly. If they point a finger at the Apollo farce, then it will open them up to the same scrutiny.
After all, why did they make no obvious attempts to put men beyond low-earth orbit?
They must have.
But this all is what is part of Putin's psychosis. He in himself has realized that Apollo was a farce. That is why suddenly they have reverted back to Soviet mentality.
Its seems the space-race was a gentleman's agreement to fuel the cold war as a space war, with the one landing on the moon being declared the 'winner'?
But even if it was not that formal, suddenly the soviets are just not as scared of americans as they were in the 80's.
The entire fascade of politics for the last 100 years is based on pseudoscience and media propaganda in so many ways.
I guess your intuition isn't wrong. At least, I've heard about false flight, and people who died. Unfortunately, I can't tell about the sources now, it was long ago when I read about it. Russians have always been psychotics. I see no evidence of them to stop. Moreover, China is supplying them, especially about drones parts. This war the drones are extremely important. Double stupid is that the govt of Ukraine hasn't cared about drones development and production. That's a fantastic stupidity, or betrayal. Anyway, with China supply no sign for Russia to be stopped. All I want to hope for these next months if I die, it'll be done quickly. In the past it was air-dominance, but these days fighter jets are sitting ducks. Look at Russia's newest fanciest most expensive aircraft, the SU57, not even used ! One drone and its history, how ridiculous was its development?
But as a philosopher you should be more focused on the psy-ops. I would suggest somehow mocking them for their useless newest aircraft. Goad them into bringing it out... to be shot down.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 26, 2023 14:35:28 GMT
I guess your intuition isn't wrong. At least, I've heard about false flight, and people who died. Unfortunately, I can't tell about the sources now, it was long ago when I read about it. Russians have always been psychotics. I see no evidence of them to stop. Moreover, China is supplying them, especially about drones parts. This war the drones are extremely important. Double stupid is that the govt of Ukraine hasn't cared about drones development and production. That's a fantastic stupidity, or betrayal. Anyway, with China supply no sign for Russia to be stopped. All I want to hope for these next months if I die, it'll be done quickly. In the past it was air-dominance, but these days fighter jets are sitting ducks. Look at Russia's newest fanciest most expensive aircraft, the SU57, not even used ! One drone and its history, how ridiculous was its development? But as a philosopher you should be more focused on the psy-ops. I would suggest somehow mocking them for their useless newest aircraft. Goad them into bringing it out... to be shot down.
Thank you, Jonathan! 🙏 |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 13, 2023 15:41:55 GMT
Does anyone remember how end times Christians were getting their panties all in a bunch talking about how the Rapture that they said was going to happen on 9/23/2017? I was tracking that stuff for about 8 months before hand and there were so many YouTube channels that got started and popular based off of that and all because one or two guys used a Celestial tracking program for computers and did some little mathematical correlation and was convinced that the Revelation 12 sign was happening on 9/23/2017 and I tried to blow the whistle as much as I could on it but they were all convinced so much so that one channel which is still popular with over 100,000 subscribers got started because of this and they were sitting outside having a picnic on that day waiting for the Rapture to happen about 200 of them and then it came and went and the next day the guy comes out with the video saying that they weren't going to focus on in time prophecies anymore and they were going to worry more about the Torah and basically anything that's much safer to talk about that's not going to get him debunked  It's a shame the guy actually quit his job and started a cult and has a few hundred followers if I'm not mistaken kind of creepy. and now everybody's starting to squawk about some other rapture timeline that's happening this year I forget exactly which holiday It lines up with I haven't studied it in about 7 or 8 years so I forget the details but it's no new news to me I figured it out back in 2016 in fact that's why I put the date in my email address which I made 7 years ago and apparently people are just now coming across it only they've gotten smarter this time they make a really long disclaimer at the beginning of their videos now saying they're not date setting and they're not prophesying and then they go rant for 2 hours date setting and prophesying kind of said, or pathetic, or both |
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Post by jonbain on Aug 23, 2023 14:39:23 GMT
Does anyone remember how end times Christians were getting their panties all in a bunch talking about how the Rapture that they said was going to happen on 9/23/2017? I was tracking that stuff for about 8 months before hand and there were so many YouTube channels that got started and popular based off of that and all because one or two guys used a Celestial tracking program for computers and did some little mathematical correlation and was convinced that the Revelation 12 sign was happening on 9/23/2017 and I tried to blow the whistle as much as I could on it but they were all convinced so much so that one channel which is still popular with over 100,000 subscribers got started because of this and they were sitting outside having a picnic on that day waiting for the Rapture to happen about 200 of them and then it came and went and the next day the guy comes out with the video saying that they weren't going to focus on in time prophecies anymore and they were going to worry more about the Torah and basically anything that's much safer to talk about that's not going to get him debunked It's a shame the guy actually quit his job and started a cult and has a few hundred followers if I'm not mistaken kind of creepy. and now everybody's starting to squawk about some other rapture timeline that's happening this year I forget exactly which holiday It lines up with I haven't studied it in about 7 or 8 years so I forget the details but it's no new news to me I figured it out back in 2016 in fact that's why I put the date in my email address which I made 7 years ago and apparently people are just now coming across it only they've gotten smarter this time they make a really long disclaimer at the beginning of their videos now saying they're not date setting and they're not prophesying and then they go rant for 2 hours date setting and prophesying kind of said, or pathetic, or both
matt 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Real Christians have read the bible, and know that such prophecies will be false. Did you not know about that verse?
I thought it was quite a well known verse. Just goes to show how many people can actually read.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 24, 2023 9:04:30 GMT
Does anyone remember how end times Christians were getting their panties all in a bunch talking about how the Rapture that they said was going to happen on 9/23/2017? I was tracking that stuff for about 8 months before hand and there were so many YouTube channels that got started and popular based off of that and all because one or two guys used a Celestial tracking program for computers and did some little mathematical correlation and was convinced that the Revelation 12 sign was happening on 9/23/2017 and I tried to blow the whistle as much as I could on it but they were all convinced so much so that one channel which is still popular with over 100,000 subscribers got started because of this and they were sitting outside having a picnic on that day waiting for the Rapture to happen about 200 of them and then it came and went and the next day the guy comes out with the video saying that they weren't going to focus on in time prophecies anymore and they were going to worry more about the Torah and basically anything that's much safer to talk about that's not going to get him debunked It's a shame the guy actually quit his job and started a cult and has a few hundred followers if I'm not mistaken kind of creepy. and now everybody's starting to squawk about some other rapture timeline that's happening this year I forget exactly which holiday It lines up with I haven't studied it in about 7 or 8 years so I forget the details but it's no new news to me I figured it out back in 2016 in fact that's why I put the date in my email address which I made 7 years ago and apparently people are just now coming across it only they've gotten smarter this time they make a really long disclaimer at the beginning of their videos now saying they're not date setting and they're not prophesying and then they go rant for 2 hours date setting and prophesying kind of said, or pathetic, or both
matt 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Real Christians have read the bible, and know that such prophecies will be false. Did you not know about that verse?
I thought it was quite a well known verse. Just goes to show how many people can actually read.
Oh yes I remember that verse I've read it many times I like to keep it an my back pocket for using to chop down arguments about Jesus being God because he clearly didn't know the day in the hour. There's several spots in the Bible that pretty much put one right between the eyes of the "we only serve one God and he's three in one" Theory. Good old fashioned no true Scotsman i saw that one comming Christian's favorite save the platoon from being eradicated tactic of "they're not Christians that's why but I am" but tell me, these "true Christians" that are out of the over 3,600 official different branches of Christianity within the religion that the God is claimed to have said he is not the author of confusion So out of those ones which one of them is the correct Christians? Because if you look online the majority of them are looking date setting prophesying and then saying they're not looking they're not date setting and they're not prophesying because they've read the Bible too. You would know if you weren't rejected by everybody including your own religion that Christians will search for a close proximity date and then they say that the bible probably talking about them exact millisecond when he is referencing about the not knowing the date or the hour but we could possibly get within a week or a month of the actual date and that's their justification for going obsessive compulsive every single year. As for me it was a big part of my realization, during that time I ended up slowly picking apart my indoctrination and dropping beliefs one by one as the spell was lifted from my eyes. |
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Post by jonbain on Sept 6, 2023 8:22:57 GMT
matt 24:36 “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.
Real Christians have read the bible, and know that such prophecies will be false. Did you not know about that verse?
I thought it was quite a well known verse. Just goes to show how many people can actually read.
Oh yes I remember that verse I've read it many times I like to keep it an my back pocket for using to chop down arguments about Jesus being God because he clearly didn't know the day in the hour. There's several spots in the Bible that pretty much put one right between the eyes of the "we only serve one God and he's three in one" Theory. Good old fashioned no true Scotsman i saw that one comming Christian's favorite save the platoon from being eradicated tactic of "they're not Christians that's why but I am" but tell me, these "true Christians" that are out of the over 3,600 official different branches of Christianity within the religion that the God is claimed to have said he is not the author of confusion So out of those ones which one of them is the correct Christians? Because if you look online the majority of them are looking date setting prophesying and then saying they're not looking they're not date setting and they're not prophesying because they've read the Bible too. You would know if you weren't rejected by everybody including your own religion that Christians will search for a close proximity date and then they say that the bible probably talking about them exact millisecond when he is referencing about the not knowing the date or the hour but we could possibly get within a week or a month of the actual date and that's their justification for going obsessive compulsive every single year. As for me it was a big part of my realization, during that time I ended up slowly picking apart my indoctrination and dropping beliefs one by one as the spell was lifted from my eyes.
You shall know them by the fruits of their labor. 'True' Scotsman exist. 'True' Mathematicians exist. So too, just about every category of person.
The fallacy in the 'true scotsman' argument, is that its no fallacy at all to point out that some people are
authentic and some people are superficial.
Of course, its typically the scots who need to point this out, being a nation that honors truth a bit better than most.
As for the time of the second coming, we can all theorize. Having a reasonable guess at the meaning is not the same as claiming that you KNOW.
The bible goes to great lengths to point out the futility of dogmatic thinking, and yes, as a consequence, most people then become dogmatic about not being dogmatic to the point of outright dogma.
Most who call themselves Christians are being false. Most who call themselves Mathematicians are even more false.
That makes neither math nor Christ false in themselves.
I recall calculating the 2nd coming to be 2187 AD though. The Crucifixion was a temporal marker that signified when
where the North pole moved from pointing at Ares, to Pisces, in 0 AD
and then again from Pisces to Aquarius 2187 years later.
The 12 signs of the zodiac rotate according to this precession of the equinoxes, every 26000 years or so.
There is much debate about the exact length and nature of that cycle; but his birth was marked with utmost astrophysical precision.
It was a very deliberate event. Not just moving from one age to the next, but its at the start of an entire new 26000 year cycle.
Having said that, the Bible errs in saying the sun was still for 3 hours. That was a mis-translation of the fact that it was an equinox where the sundial gets paused for 3 hours.
This is how you calculate a leap year in a solar calendar. Add 3 hours every equinox = 1 day every 4 years.
Errors in the Bible do not not negate the message it carries. They just show who is being dogmatic.
As it is, he may return every 26000 years, rather than 2187 years...
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 10, 2023 2:26:53 GMT
Oh yes I remember that verse I've read it many times I like to keep it an my back pocket for using to chop down arguments about Jesus being God because he clearly didn't know the day in the hour. There's several spots in the Bible that pretty much put one right between the eyes of the "we only serve one God and he's three in one" Theory. Good old fashioned no true Scotsman i saw that one comming Christian's favorite save the platoon from being eradicated tactic of "they're not Christians that's why but I am" but tell me, these "true Christians" that are out of the over 3,600 official different branches of Christianity within the religion that the God is claimed to have said he is not the author of confusion So out of those ones which one of them is the correct Christians? Because if you look online the majority of them are looking date setting prophesying and then saying they're not looking they're not date setting and they're not prophesying because they've read the Bible too. You would know if you weren't rejected by everybody including your own religion that Christians will search for a close proximity date and then they say that the bible probably talking about them exact millisecond when he is referencing about the not knowing the date or the hour but we could possibly get within a week or a month of the actual date and that's their justification for going obsessive compulsive every single year. As for me it was a big part of my realization, during that time I ended up slowly picking apart my indoctrination and dropping beliefs one by one as the spell was lifted from my eyes.
You shall know them by the fruits of their labor. 'True' Scotsman exist. 'True' Mathematicians exist. So too, just about every category of person.
The fallacy in the 'true scotsman' argument, is that its no fallacy at all to point out that some people are
authentic and some people are superficial.
Of course, its typically the scots who need to point this out, being a nation that honors truth a bit better than most.
As for the time of the second coming, we can all theorize. Having a reasonable guess at the meaning is not the same as claiming that you KNOW.
The bible goes to great lengths to point out the futility of dogmatic thinking, and yes, as a consequence, most people then become dogmatic about not being dogmatic to the point of outright dogma.
Most who call themselves Christians are being false. Most who call themselves Mathematicians are even more false.
That makes neither math nor Christ false in themselves.
I recall calculating the 2nd coming to be 2187 AD though. The Crucifixion was a temporal marker that signified when
where the North pole moved from pointing at Ares, to Pisces, in 0 AD
and then again from Pisces to Aquarius 2187 years later.
The 12 signs of the zodiac rotate according to this precession of the equinoxes, every 26000 years or so.
There is much debate about the exact length and nature of that cycle; but his birth was marked with utmost astrophysical precision.
It was a very deliberate event. Not just moving from one age to the next, but its at the start of an entire new 26000 year cycle.
Having said that, the Bible errs in saying the sun was still for 3 hours. That was a mis-translation of the fact that it was an equinox where the sundial gets paused for 3 hours.
This is how you calculate a leap year in a solar calendar. Add 3 hours every equinox = 1 day every 4 years.
Errors in the Bible do not not negate the message it carries. They just show who is being dogmatic.
As it is, he may return every 26000 years, rather than 2187 years...
Second coming? You mean 9th coming? There's at least eight separate accounts of people seeing Jesus after his death so that would make it the 9th coming right? And I don't recall it saying anything in the Old Testament about they're needing to be a second coming because he failed to fulfill the prophecies during the first coming.. that is if he was an actual real physical character and not just a metaphorical representation of a metaphysical phenomenon but I know you're not ready to let go of the fact that he wasn't actually a physical person yet so I'll leave that there. Where exactly is your evidence that this translation was incorrect and that it wasn't talking about 3 days of standing still? |
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Post by jonbain on Oct 19, 2023 19:20:23 GMT
You shall know them by the fruits of their labor. 'True' Scotsman exist. 'True' Mathematicians exist. So too, just about every category of person.
The fallacy in the 'true scotsman' argument, is that its no fallacy at all to point out that some people are
authentic and some people are superficial.
Of course, its typically the scots who need to point this out, being a nation that honors truth a bit better than most.
As for the time of the second coming, we can all theorize. Having a reasonable guess at the meaning is not the same as claiming that you KNOW.
The bible goes to great lengths to point out the futility of dogmatic thinking, and yes, as a consequence, most people then become dogmatic about not being dogmatic to the point of outright dogma.
Most who call themselves Christians are being false. Most who call themselves Mathematicians are even more false.
That makes neither math nor Christ false in themselves.
I recall calculating the 2nd coming to be 2187 AD though. The Crucifixion was a temporal marker that signified when
where the North pole moved from pointing at Ares, to Pisces, in 0 AD
and then again from Pisces to Aquarius 2187 years later.
The 12 signs of the zodiac rotate according to this precession of the equinoxes, every 26000 years or so.
There is much debate about the exact length and nature of that cycle; but his birth was marked with utmost astrophysical precision.
It was a very deliberate event. Not just moving from one age to the next, but its at the start of an entire new 26000 year cycle.
Having said that, the Bible errs in saying the sun was still for 3 hours. That was a mis-translation of the fact that it was an equinox where the sundial gets paused for 3 hours.
This is how you calculate a leap year in a solar calendar. Add 3 hours every equinox = 1 day every 4 years.
Errors in the Bible do not not negate the message it carries. They just show who is being dogmatic.
As it is, he may return every 26000 years, rather than 2187 years...
Where exactly is your evidence that this translation was incorrect and that it wasn't talking about 3 days of standing still?
That is how the Jews calculated the solar calendar exactly. By adding 3 hours every equinox. So it WAS a literal event, regardless of whether you accept life after death or not.
Are you suggesting it was a coincidence that the most articulate and accurate time recording mathematicians of that day, invented a story about a guy being murdered and the sun standing still for exactly the amount of time required to correct the calendar for a solar leap-year?
When that was the system they actually used to give the correct leap year...
Its not a made-up myth that people get murdered by the courts. It is a made up myth that the sun can stand still for 3 hours, based on clear mis-translation.
But you WANT to accept the illogical as the meaning, rather than the logical.
You are just like all the others who accept the sun standing still for 3 hours, but for a different motive...
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