Neuron420
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Post by Neuron420 on Jun 11, 2023 20:23:26 GMT
Just wondering what other opinions are about philosophy and ethics. Does a person's personal ethics rise from their personal philosophy, or does their philosophy come from their ethics?
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Post by jonbain on Jun 12, 2023 9:38:53 GMT
Question is a bit vague.
Are you perhaps asking if a persons' position on the existential question impacts their ethic?
You use the word 'philosophy' a bit too generally here.
Does a person's belief about life after death impact their ethics?
Is perhaps that what you are asking?
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Neuron420
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Post by Neuron420 on Jun 13, 2023 1:36:31 GMT
You are quite right! It is an overly broad question on a very hard to define subject! Let me try to ask it in a different way. Every person has either a conscious or unconscious moral / ethical guideline as to how they think they should live their life. They also possess a philosophical view (Not Philosophy in academic sense, but philosophy in a more personal sense), as to the fundamental nature of their existence, reality, and their knowledge of these natures. Do these two human natures come into existence at the same time? One influencing the other, or do we arrive at them separately. If separately, which comes first?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2023 19:06:00 GMT
Question is a bit vague. Are you perhaps asking if a persons' position on the existential question impacts their ethic? You use the word 'philosophy' a bit too generally here. Does a person's belief about life after death impact their ethics? Is perhaps that what you are asking? And what is not vague? If I become precise in defining a tree I miss the forest thus leaving the forest as vague to me. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 21, 2023 19:11:21 GMT
You are quite right! It is an overly broad question on a very hard to define subject! Let me try to ask it in a different way. Every person has either a conscious or unconscious moral / ethical guideline as to how they think they should live their life. They also possess a philosophical view (Not Philosophy in academic sense, but philosophy in a more personal sense), as to the fundamental nature of their existence, reality, and their knowledge of these natures. Do these two human natures come into existence at the same time? One influencing the other, or do we arrive at them separately. If separately, which comes first? Moral/ethical guidelines are a way to be and as a way to be require a metaphysics behind them as to what the proper way to be is. They require eachother. But due to relativity, as we are born into time and space and our observations and beliefs suffer from this, either one or the other can come first and enhance or change the other. The question is vague in the respect that it requires a knowing of the person(s) and context(s) through which these things occur. It cannot be accurately answered and even if answer would only be true under a specific context of x person's life and not necessarily y person's life. |
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Post by jonbain on Jun 22, 2023 9:10:30 GMT
Question is a bit vague. Are you perhaps asking if a persons' position on the existential question impacts their ethic? You use the word 'philosophy' a bit too generally here. Does a person's belief about life after death impact their ethics? Is perhaps that what you are asking? And what is not vague? If I become precise in defining a tree I miss the forest thus leaving the forest as vague to me. Pythagoras is not vague. Enlightenment only seems to be vague, if you're sitting in the shade.
(that was a subconscious haiku)
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 23, 2023 19:16:05 GMT
And what is not vague? If I become precise in defining a tree I miss the forest thus leaving the forest as vague to me. Pythagoras is not vague. Enlightenment only seems to be vague, if you're sitting in the shade.
(that was a subconscious haiku)
Pythagoras was vague in two respects. First anything can be counted thus the nature of number becomes indefinite as it means any and everything. For example the number 1 applies to an infinite number of things. Second the discovery of irrational numbers killed his cult.
Enlightenment has no form and as such can be argue as clear and vague and/or even not clear and not vague.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 11, 2023 0:19:33 GMT
Just wondering what other opinions are about philosophy and ethics. Does a person's personal ethics rise from their personal philosophy, or does their philosophy come from their ethics? Ethics is about morality, the values of it, etc. Morality is complex, but usually it's connected directly with a personal choice. I mean depending on what a man chooses. However, not every single decision of ours comes from a rigorous philosophical system. Along with it, it may come from a philosophical system of views also. If the latter takes a place, then your answer has answered that ethics bases on philosophy; if the former, then some are not. In case, if a man doesn't hold philosophical views, however he practices hard thinking before doing something, then it is quite the same as philosophy. This means, either ethics comes from philosophical views, or ethics comes from some other system of views. So, it's better for ethics to stand on more solid ground. As Socrates thought no good man can come without philosophy or good thinking. |
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