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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Apr 28, 2023 19:04:11 GMT
How many deities are needed to construct or to describe the reality? Many says that Natural numbers, but what about matter? If everything is matter only, then how is it possible for the matter to change? Seems numbers and matter are not enough, right?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Apr 28, 2023 19:57:09 GMT
How many deities are needed to construct or to describe the reality? Many says that Natural numbers, but what about matter? If everything is matter only, then how is it possible for the matter to change? Seems numbers and matter are not enough, right? If everything is matter only then any change within matter is the contradiction of matter. If existence is reducible to one thing or just 'one' then contradiction results, change is contradiction. The other have of the coin is that a plurality of "deities" would require further deities beyond them if a contradiction is to be avoided. This results in further contradiction as the number of deities would be infinite thus resulting in a singular indefinite state which is without comparison. |
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Post by joustos on Apr 28, 2023 20:52:41 GMT
Deities are needed as long as we suppose that nothing happens SPONTANEOUSLY [by chance]. Yet, when we posit a god, we cannot avoid thinking that he acts spontaneously.... according to his nature, which nobody can will/design. So, with or without gods, reality is a play/game of chance.
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Post by jonbain on Apr 29, 2023 19:22:53 GMT
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as all spirit and material align to the chakras
the lower 3 are material
the highest 1 is without definition, being infinite,
and the other 3 form the spiritual trinity,
thus forming a trinity of trinities...
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Apr 29, 2023 20:54:39 GMT
Deities are needed as long as we suppose that nothing happens SPONTANEOUSLY [by chance]. Yet, when we posit a god, we cannot avoid thinking that he acts spontaneously.... according to his nature, which nobody can will/design. So, with or without gods, reality is a play/game of chance. Chaos or no-order is also hard to accept very seriously. Why so? Let's imagine a spontaneous (I consider chaos≈orderless≈spontaneous) exist. Then how to prove that that spontaneous anything exist? It must follow a certain way – to be unpredictable. So, as soon as that something/anything is following that order or is having the relevant shape it is spontaneous. Otherwise how to be sure in it? The same is about such numbers as π: it's transcendental, and if it was not, it had only predictable sequences. Actually, this number π has all them, but we don't know the whole order of those sequences – where they start or end etc. Briefly, chaotic or spontaneous constructions don't seem to be completely itself. Highly possible it is we who use those concepts, yet we are unable, at least in many cases, to be certain about them. |
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Post by MAYA-EL on May 1, 2023 18:05:01 GMT
Well from what I remember in gnosticism they think it requires 3600 lower gods and 24 higher gods with each one of those 24 higher gods having 3600 lesser gods under them that they govern so I guess it takes a total of 86,400 gods
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 2, 2023 4:36:21 GMT
Well from what I remember in gnosticism they think it requires 3600 lower gods and 24 higher gods with each one of those 24 higher gods having 3600 lesser gods under them that they govern so I guess it takes a total of 86,400 gods Gosh... I wonder how did they calculate all this :) |
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