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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 8, 2022 12:40:05 GMT
Let's imagine you prevented an act of suicide by killing a suicide person. Was it an act of killing him or saving him? You saved him if it was all what you could do. You possessed his actions as yours. So, you've become a saver for him, not a killer. This is not a paradox, it just depends on the way of the look.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Oct 8, 2022 17:32:47 GMT
But in the end he's still dead so that means you didn't save him you killed him
Just like you can't say that the drunk driver that crashed into a oncoming car killing the other guy was actually the other driver saving him from having a heart attack in 10years and dieing
In other words their are endless possibilities that you could have saved somebody from by ending their life early but that doesn't mean it changes the action of ending their life they're just meaningless hypotheticals because the person is still dead
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 8, 2022 17:44:22 GMT
But in the end he's still dead so that means you didn't save him you killed him Just like you can't say that the drunk driver that crashed into a oncoming car killing the other guy was actually the other driver saving him from having a heart attack in 10years and dieing In other words their are endless possibilities that you could have saved somebody from by ending their life early but that doesn't mean it changes the action of ending their life they're just meaningless hypotheticals because the person is still dead On the other hand, if not to kill him, he kills himself. What if there are no other ways? Let him kill himself isn't the best, I guess. Yes, in real life it might be (not always!). But in some imaginary situation. I was just wondered could it be an act of mercy, not an act of cruelty? |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Oct 11, 2022 22:27:52 GMT
But in the end he's still dead so that means you didn't save him you killed him Just like you can't say that the drunk driver that crashed into a oncoming car killing the other guy was actually the other driver saving him from having a heart attack in 10years and dieing In other words their are endless possibilities that you could have saved somebody from by ending their life early but that doesn't mean it changes the action of ending their life they're just meaningless hypotheticals because the person is still dead On the other hand, if not to kill him, he kills himself. What if there are no other ways? Let him kill himself isn't the best, I guess. Yes, in real life it might be (not always!). But in some imaginary situation. I was just wondered could it be an act of mercy, not an act of cruelty? So if he is going to die regardless then the best thing would be to just let him kill himself because that has the least fall out Because if you kill him rather that be a good thing or not it still involves an extra person so now you might have psychological problems to deal with guilt shame things like that or the family might take you for what you did regardless of if you avoided some catastrophic event by doing so and it just unavoidably adds complication and an extra person to this situation so the least amount of fallout would be to let the man kill himself at least that's from my perspective. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 12, 2022 8:23:32 GMT
On the other hand, if not to kill him, he kills himself. What if there are no other ways? Let him kill himself isn't the best, I guess. Yes, in real life it might be (not always!). But in some imaginary situation. I was just wondered could it be an act of mercy, not an act of cruelty? So if he is going to die regardless then the best thing would be to just let him kill himself because that has the least fall out Because if you kill him rather that be a good thing or not it still involves an extra person so now you might have psychological problems to deal with guilt shame things like that or the family might take you for what you did regardless of if you avoided some catastrophic event by doing so and it just unavoidably adds complication and an extra person to this situation so the least amount of fallout would be to let the man kill himself at least that's from my perspective. I guess you're right, because accidentally his gun (if he shots himself) may not work, or something else. Sometimes it also happens among suicide ones to do this to make everyone pays attention to them, and to try to save them. |
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