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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 11, 2022 22:41:46 GMT
There is a line with 3 points, one on each end and one in the middle.
A line exists between the beginning and end points.
A line exists between the beginning and middle point and a line exists between the middle and end point.
There are both one line and many lines....one is composed of many and many results in one.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 12, 2022 5:51:49 GMT
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There are not paradoxes. What you've said it's a trivial knowledge. Yeah, the world is like that.
Let me give you another 'paradoxical' example:
- people want to live
- people want love
- people kill each other
- people hate
- people complain about their lives
- people complain about each other
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 12, 2022 10:41:39 GMT
There is a line with 3 points, one on each end and one in the middle. A line exists between the beginning and end points. A line exists between the beginning and middle point and a line exists between the middle and end point. There are both one line and many lines....one is composed of many and many results in one. How does this help you make your way through life ? How does this help you have more quality of life? |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 15, 2022 21:21:48 GMT
? There are not paradoxes. What you've said it's a trivial knowledge. Yeah, the world is like that. Let me give you another 'paradoxical' example: - people want to live - people want love - people kill each other - people hate - people complain about their lives - people complain about each other Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 15, 2022 21:22:46 GMT
There is a line with 3 points, one on each end and one in the middle. A line exists between the beginning and end points. A line exists between the beginning and middle point and a line exists between the middle and end point. There are both one line and many lines....one is composed of many and many results in one. How does this help you make your way through life ? How does this help you have more quality of life? Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. To live a quality of life requires one to move beyond the empirical senses. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 16, 2022 6:36:30 GMT
? There are not paradoxes. What you've said it's a trivial knowledge. Yeah, the world is like that. Let me give you another 'paradoxical' example: - people want to live - people want love - people kill each other - people hate - people complain about their lives - people complain about each other Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. There are no paradoxes. If our measurements is wrong, then our reality has such an ability to not be measured correctly. What if we live in some kind of a Riemann's universe? If you said it was a paradox meant you used the Euclidean universe as a prior or fundamental theory. But it is not like that. There are no fundamental rules according to which only the Euclidean universe is correct. We don't know it. Besides, the contradictions as kinda properties lays in ontology. Let's say in a certain reality 1 contradicts to 2, but 2 contradicts to 3, while 1 and 3 are mutually neutral. We can mentally construct many worlds, but our expectations may be wrong since all of them have been created by our minds. |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 16, 2022 13:07:17 GMT
How does this help you make your way through life ? How does this help you have more quality of life? Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. To live a quality of life requires one to move beyond the empirical senses. Reality is not beyond the senses reality is made for the senses but what's beyond the senses is not reality but that does not mean it is not real |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 17, 2022 21:46:08 GMT
How does this help you make your way through life ? How does this help you have more quality of life? Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. To live a quality of life requires one to move beyond the empirical senses. It's not beyond sense what is beyond sense and tool is not reality untill we become aware of it's existence and then find a way to measure it then it becomes part of are reality |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 29, 2022 20:58:47 GMT
Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. There are no paradoxes. If our measurements is wrong, then our reality has such an ability to not be measured correctly. What if we live in some kind of a Riemann's universe? If you said it was a paradox meant you used the Euclidean universe as a prior or fundamental theory. But it is not like that. There are no fundamental rules according to which only the Euclidean universe is correct. We don't know it. Besides, the contradictions as kinda properties lays in ontology. Let's say in a certain reality 1 contradicts to 2, but 2 contradicts to 3, while 1 and 3 are mutually neutral. We can mentally construct many worlds, but our expectations may be wrong since all of them have been created by our minds. But I never said the measurements where wrong; I am pointing out that both one and many lines exist at the same time. Our measurements form reality as they lay an imprint on it; dually, measurement is part of reality as measurement exists and what exists is real. As such the paradoxical nature of measurement results in the paradoxical nature of reality. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 29, 2022 21:02:17 GMT
Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. To live a quality of life requires one to move beyond the empirical senses. Reality is not beyond the senses reality is made for the senses but what's beyond the senses is not reality but that does not mean it is not real Reality is beyond the senses as the potential of something, which allows change, is not fully observable. Potentiality exists because it allows change and we know change exists. Because we cannot observe the full potential of a thing then reality is beyond the senses. Dually if everything exists through contradiction (because of distinction through contrast being necessary for form to occur), and contradiction results in a state beyond the senses then reality is beyond the senses. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 29, 2022 21:03:28 GMT
Reality, through our measurements, is paradoxical as the lines point out. As such reality, at its core, is beyond the senses. To live a quality of life requires one to move beyond the empirical senses. It's not beyond sense what is beyond sense and tool is not reality untill we become aware of it's existence and then find a way to measure it then it becomes part of are reality The potentiality of a tool coming to existence is beyond the senses; what is potential is beyond the senses. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 30, 2022 5:59:51 GMT
There are no paradoxes. If our measurements is wrong, then our reality has such an ability to not be measured correctly. What if we live in some kind of a Riemann's universe? If you said it was a paradox meant you used the Euclidean universe as a prior or fundamental theory. But it is not like that. There are no fundamental rules according to which only the Euclidean universe is correct. We don't know it. Besides, the contradictions as kinda properties lays in ontology. Let's say in a certain reality 1 contradicts to 2, but 2 contradicts to 3, while 1 and 3 are mutually neutral. We can mentally construct many worlds, but our expectations may be wrong since all of them have been created by our minds. But I never said the measurements where wrong; I am pointing out that both one and many lines exist at the same time. Our measurements form reality as they lay an imprint on it; dually, measurement is part of reality as measurement exists and what exists is real. As such the paradoxical nature of measurement results in the paradoxical nature of reality. Partially it's correct. The elementary particles moves quite unexpectedly, but only for narrow measurements. If you want to measure the size of these font it is and always be 4 (for this forum). I don't believe the reality is paradoxical, while the life of it itself struggles to not get into the endless Sisyphus universe. Nietzsche was wrong about his worries of the endless repeating. More possible – even in case of paradoxical reality – to be never the same. So, I think your description of the reality is more lightful, and at the same time hides another self-destructive principle: if the reality was paradoxical, it was not paradoxical. Why so? – Because according to Nietzsche if the reality existed in such a way it was predictable. But any predictions and paradoxes don't exist along. I think the universe is more sneaky and more unexpected that even the keenest minds are out of noticing it. It resists to our snooping of it. The reality doesn't want to take its mask off. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 4, 2022 18:38:30 GMT
But I never said the measurements where wrong; I am pointing out that both one and many lines exist at the same time. Our measurements form reality as they lay an imprint on it; dually, measurement is part of reality as measurement exists and what exists is real. As such the paradoxical nature of measurement results in the paradoxical nature of reality. Partially it's correct. The elementary particles moves quite unexpectedly, but only for narrow measurements. If you want to measure the size of these font it is and always be 4 (for this forum). I don't believe the reality is paradoxical, while the life of it itself struggles to not get into the endless Sisyphus universe. Nietzsche was wrong about his worries of the endless repeating. More possible – even in case of paradoxical reality – to be never the same. So, I think your description of the reality is more lightful, and at the same time hides another self-destructive principle: if the reality was paradoxical, it was not paradoxical. Why so? – Because according to Nietzsche if the reality existed in such a way it was predictable. But any predictions and paradoxes don't exist along. I think the universe is more sneaky and more unexpected that even the keenest minds are out of noticing it. It resists to our snooping of it. The reality doesn't want to take its mask off. Paradox is the "mask" of reality. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 4, 2022 20:10:28 GMT
Partially it's correct. The elementary particles moves quite unexpectedly, but only for narrow measurements. If you want to measure the size of these font it is and always be 4 (for this forum). I don't believe the reality is paradoxical, while the life of it itself struggles to not get into the endless Sisyphus universe. Nietzsche was wrong about his worries of the endless repeating. More possible – even in case of paradoxical reality – to be never the same. So, I think your description of the reality is more lightful, and at the same time hides another self-destructive principle: if the reality was paradoxical, it was not paradoxical. Why so? – Because according to Nietzsche if the reality existed in such a way it was predictable. But any predictions and paradoxes don't exist along. I think the universe is more sneaky and more unexpected that even the keenest minds are out of noticing it. It resists to our snooping of it. The reality doesn't want to take its mask off. Paradox is the "mask" of reality. Paradoxes are X for reality. Since is undefined, we still don't know what paradoxes are. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Oct 4, 2022 20:16:46 GMT
Paradox is the "mask" of reality. Paradoxes are X for reality. Since is undefined, we still don't know what paradoxes are. In stating paradoxes are undefined we are applying a negative limit on what paradox is, it is defined by what it is not. A negative limit is still a limit thus definition does occur. Even discussing paradoxes we result in paradoxes. |
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