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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jul 7, 2022 21:41:13 GMT
"Greater" or "lesser" always exists for every truth when compared to the vastness of contexts in which exists; a truth is always greater/lesser simultaneously.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 12, 2022 14:29:26 GMT
1. No, it's not. Either men are mortal, or they are not mortal, there are not third option. So, what if someone is ill? Let's say there are two persons A and B, and A is ill. By your logic, A is more mortal, then B. But B dies accidentally. So, what what about mortality? Moreover, let's say there are two large communities A and B. A has larger number of ill persons, than B, but then tsunami occurs and B die everyone. I see any reason to put degrees in a casual way. As we know from logic, than any casualties don't imply anything. 2. Oh, no, I don't think it's a go go argument. I was talking of a priori only things. There were no a posteriori. 3. "There are degrees to which one is a liar or truth teller as evidence by the respective repetition of lies/truth telling in their lives. People share degrees of both" - No, those repetitions are unnecessary. So, what if I or someone else never repeat those liar/truth-teller? Which degree can have a statement like Sun is the name of the star, or xxxxxxxxx just posted that: ""There are degrees to which one is a liar or truth teller as evidence by the respective repetition of lies/truth telling in their lives. People share degrees of both""? Nonsense. 4. No. 1 and 3 means nothing. Not all the things have degrees. Electrons don't have them. Our thoughts don't have them. Truths or falsies don't have them either. 1. Mortality is the absence of life. If one is sick then they have less life than someone who is not sick. 2. All a priori things, when communicated, become a posteriori things thus become relative. 3. All being is repetition as being is continuous through repetition. The degrees to which we repeat x define who we are. One can be more of a truth teller than a liar and vice versa. 4. The positions of electrons in time an space are the electrons as degrees as time and space is degrees (more in one time/space then another time/space). Thoughts are degrees as well considering we ponder more/less x then y. 1. Mortality isn't a degree measure, it's a state: either the person is alive, or the one is dead. There are no thirds. If this person is alive, then there exist some medicine to get him out of his snap, but the one isn't alive, then there are no meds (the cure) to help him. 2. Okay, then if I am telling you right now that 2+2=4, then it becomes a posteriori? No, it doesn't make any sense. 4. Can't agree on this. Electrons are scientific facts, and they exist in betweens, but it doesn't mean that they have degrees. It's just a matter of language. Scientists usually use such notions, because they don't have better.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 13, 2022 3:18:45 GMT
Exactly my point, so how are you coming to that conclusion ? Because I made it clear that the opinion that I hold IE everything is the person's perspective Is a perspective that I don't like but I still hold because I'm not after patting myself on the back or feeling good I'm 1st and for most after whatever is the most accurate and that I wish it wasn't this way but it is. Get it now? If you wish the truth to be any other way then you are not fully accepting the truth. That's some weird type of no true Scotsman fallacy it seems A bit falacious for sure I mean you're implying that a person that doesn't desire life to be any different than it is and just accepts everything that comes with him without negative opinion is somehow more in tune and subsequently more in the true sense accurately living When that's not the case the case is there simply passive and don't care and possibly lazy they don't have any ambitions that's for sure and among many other things. Do you accept pedophiles and rapists? Do you wish they didn't exist? Because according to your perspective wishing that pedophiles and rapists didn't exist is not living fully in a alignment with reality which leads me to assume that means you prefer to accept everything and wish nothing to be different than it is in which case I would assume you live in a bubble and you've been protected from the dark aspects of reality your entire life
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 1, 2022 23:14:16 GMT
1. Mortality is the absence of life. If one is sick then they have less life than someone who is not sick. 2. All a priori things, when communicated, become a posteriori things thus become relative. 3. All being is repetition as being is continuous through repetition. The degrees to which we repeat x define who we are. One can be more of a truth teller than a liar and vice versa. 4. The positions of electrons in time an space are the electrons as degrees as time and space is degrees (more in one time/space then another time/space). Thoughts are degrees as well considering we ponder more/less x then y. 1. Mortality isn't a degree measure, it's a state: either the person is alive, or the one is dead. There are no thirds. If this person is alive, then there exist some medicine to get him out of his snap, but the one isn't alive, then there are no meds (the cure) to help him. 2. Okay, then if I am telling you right now that 2+2=4, then it becomes a posteriori? No, it doesn't make any sense. 4. Can't agree on this. Electrons are scientific facts, and they exist in betweens, but it doesn't mean that they have degrees. It's just a matter of language. Scientists usually use such notions, because they don't have better. 1. People committing certain good actions at times and certain bad actions at other times necessitates one's moral state as existing in grades. People who lie sometimes are both liars and non-liars and the degree to which they lie shifts the pole as to which state they are in. This applies to health as well; a person who is sick is not fully alive as health is necessary for life. 2. Observing 2 oranges and another 2 oranges, as 4 oranges, makes the a priori truth of 2+2=4 a posteriori. Dually writing out "2+2=4" is making the a priori knowledge of "2+2=4" a posteriori as it is observed through the senses. 3. The position in time and space of one electron to another occurs through degrees. From one starting point the electron may be at a 3 o'clock position, in time or in space, while from another starting point it may be at an 11 o'clock position. Any starting point in measurement of the electron necessitates it occuring through degrees. All physical phenomenon exist in time and space and as such all physical phenomenon occur in grades. This grade may be x time or x space (ie the position) or both.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 1, 2022 23:24:53 GMT
If you wish the truth to be any other way then you are not fully accepting the truth. That's some weird type of no true Scotsman fallacy it seems A bit falacious for sure I mean you're implying that a person that doesn't desire life to be any different than it is and just accepts everything that comes with him without negative opinion is somehow more in tune and subsequently more in the true sense accurately living When that's not the case the case is there simply passive and don't care and possibly lazy they don't have any ambitions that's for sure and among many other things. Do you accept pedophiles and rapists? Do you wish they didn't exist? Because according to your perspective wishing that pedophiles and rapists didn't exist is not living fully in a alignment with reality which leads me to assume that means you prefer to accept everything and wish nothing to be different than it is in which case I would assume you live in a bubble and you've been protected from the dark aspects of reality your entire life Accepting the totality of reality is truth considering reality cannot exist any other way, otherwise it would. All evil actions are accepted through the punishment which they incur; this can occur from anything from execution/jail time to a bad conscience that is repressed and causes cognitive dissonance. In simpler terms reality shows us we can do anything we want but there are consequences to our choices. Without consequence we could not choose at all considering all choice requires an order of events which progress from it...other wise we could not choose. In these respects reality is unforgiving.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Sept 1, 2022 23:40:18 GMT
That's some weird type of no true Scotsman fallacy it seems A bit falacious for sure I mean you're implying that a person that doesn't desire life to be any different than it is and just accepts everything that comes with him without negative opinion is somehow more in tune and subsequently more in the true sense accurately living When that's not the case the case is there simply passive and don't care and possibly lazy they don't have any ambitions that's for sure and among many other things. Do you accept pedophiles and rapists? Do you wish they didn't exist? Because according to your perspective wishing that pedophiles and rapists didn't exist is not living fully in a alignment with reality which leads me to assume that means you prefer to accept everything and wish nothing to be different than it is in which case I would assume you live in a bubble and you've been protected from the dark aspects of reality your entire life Accepting the totality of reality is truth considering reality cannot exist any other way, otherwise it would. All evil actions are accepted through the punishment in which they occur; this can occur from anything to execution/jail time to a bad conscience that is repressed and causes cognitive dissonance. In simpler terms reality shows us we can do anything we want but there are consequences to our choices. Without consequence we could not choose anything considering all choice requires a following order of events which follow from it...other wise we could not choose. In these respects reality is unforgiving. No, It Is NEVER "Accepted"; It's Actionable, People Choose To Do The Unacceptable, That Does Not Make It Acceptable.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 1, 2022 23:44:26 GMT
Accepting the totality of reality is truth considering reality cannot exist any other way, otherwise it would. All evil actions are accepted through the punishment in which they occur; this can occur from anything to execution/jail time to a bad conscience that is repressed and causes cognitive dissonance. In simpler terms reality shows us we can do anything we want but there are consequences to our choices. Without consequence we could not choose anything considering all choice requires a following order of events which follow from it...other wise we could not choose. In these respects reality is unforgiving. No, It Is NEVER "Accepted"; It's Actionable, People Choose To Do The Unacceptable, That Does Not Make It Acceptable.Yet the unacceptable still occurs no matter how negatively another views it. I may view it badly but the action still occurs.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Sept 1, 2022 23:48:15 GMT
No, It Is NEVER "Accepted"; It's Actionable, People Choose To Do The Unacceptable, That Does Not Make It Acceptable. Yet the unacceptable still occurs no matter how negatively another views it. I may view it badly but the action still occurs. That Still Doesn't Make It "Acceptable", The Consequences That Follow The Unacceptable Actions Are What Make It NOT Acceptable.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 1, 2022 23:54:11 GMT
Yet the unacceptable still occurs no matter how negatively another views it. I may view it badly but the action still occurs. That Still Doesn't Make It "Acceptable", The Consequences That Follow The Unacceptable Actions Are What Make It NOT Acceptable.The consequence which follow it only show for every action there is a reaction. Committing a bad action is acceptable if punishment follows...this acception of both is justice. For further example, from a religious perspective, God allows us to commit evils and accepts them through the punishment that follows. To wish reality to be any other way is to not accept reality for what it is as you have an opposing view of reality that does not align to what has happened.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Sept 1, 2022 23:57:44 GMT
That Still Doesn't Make It "Acceptable", The Consequences That Follow The Unacceptable Actions Are What Make It NOT Acceptable. The consequence which follow it only show for every action there is a reaction. Committing a bad action is acceptable if punishment follows...this acception of both is justice. For further example, from a religious perspective, God allows us to commit evils and accepts them through the punishment that follows. To wish reality to be any other way is to not accept reality for what it is as you have an opposing view of reality that does not align to what has happened. Punishment Follows Because It's Unacceptable, Every Action That Is Acceptable Does Not Come With Consequence.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 1, 2022 23:59:45 GMT
The consequence which follow it only show for every action there is a reaction. Committing a bad action is acceptable if punishment follows...this acception of both is justice. For further example, from a religious perspective, God allows us to commit evils and accepts them through the punishment that follows. To wish reality to be any other way is to not accept reality for what it is as you have an opposing view of reality that does not align to what has happened. Punishment Follows Because It's Unacceptable, Every Action That Is Acceptable Does Not Come With Consequence.Punishment is the result of an evil occuring. The evil occured. It is accepted as existing. Punishment follows. Dually good actions have consequences to: if I give money to a beggar now he can eat.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Sept 2, 2022 0:04:55 GMT
Punishment Follows Because It's Unacceptable, Every Action That Is Acceptable Does Not Come With Consequence. Punishment is the result of an evil occuring. The evil occured. It is accepted as existing. Punishment follows. Dually good actions have consequences to: if I give money to a beggar now he can eat. Consequence Is The Result Of The Unacceptable, If It Was Acceptable There Wouldn't Be Any Consequence.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 2, 2022 16:35:49 GMT
Punishment is the result of an evil occuring. The evil occured. It is accepted as existing. Punishment follows. Dually good actions have consequences to: if I give money to a beggar now he can eat. Consequence Is The Result Of The Unacceptable, If It Was Acceptable There Wouldn't Be Any Consequence.There are consequences to what is acceptable, for example: I go to work and the consequence is a paycheck.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Sept 2, 2022 17:03:00 GMT
Consequence Is The Result Of The Unacceptable, If It Was Acceptable There Wouldn't Be Any Consequence. There are consequences to what is acceptable, for example: I go to work and the consequence is a paycheck. You Are Forcing "Acceptable" And "Consequence" Into Your Argument, Not Realizing That Your Forcing Of It Does Not Make It Reality. What You Call "Acceptable" By Your Made Up Laws And Circular Logic Does Not Mean It Is True, Same For Your Use Of "Consequence", You Have Terrible Counter Arguments And Reduce Yourself To Basic Logical Fallacies, When Will You Learn?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Sept 3, 2022 17:02:58 GMT
There are consequences to what is acceptable, for example: I go to work and the consequence is a paycheck. You Are Forcing "Acceptable" And "Consequence" Into Your Argument, Not Realizing That Your Forcing Of It Does Not Make It Reality. What You Call "Acceptable" By Your Made Up Laws And Circular Logic Does Not Mean It Is True, Same For Your Use Of "Consequence", You Have Terrible Counter Arguments And Reduce Yourself To Basic Logical Fallacies, When Will You Learn?You are diverting the argument, you stated good [actions] (ie what is acceptable) do not have consequences and in turn I gave an example in which they do.
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