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Post by jonbain on May 27, 2022 17:22:51 GMT
Child-abuse / corporal punishment. A violent upbringing generally. A society that ignores such issues.
These are the top 3 issues, but also:
Blame-the-victim mentality. Psychological dissonance. Rape & sodomy. A completely worthless education system that serves only as a place for unwanted youngsters.
Increasing societal hypocrisy.
Anti-depressants? That would be like blaming headaches on headache tablets. But it could be argued that medication without any form of psychotherapy, or ineffective therapy masks the real problem.
But if you have ever been through chronic depression, you will know how much worse it is without medication.
The wrong TYPE of medication? Sure. Cannabis is a million times more effective than any pill, but if your mindset is dog-eat-dog, no medication will help much.
The worst is when you know the spliff works, then society abuses you even more, because it just wants to sell you useless drugs instead.
The "survival of the fittest" syndrome, where atheism makes
life fairly meaningless, and so there is one last chance to go down in a blaze of glory.
A society of dog-eat-dog mindset without empathy is a big part of it.
Have you been here? Or do you like to sit on the side and assume your position
is in the middle?
Neuroscience? Yes. Neuroscience is an important cause because its almost entirely quackery and that itself just adds to the dissonance.
Guns?
Trying to take the guns away in the midst of the WHO communist takeover - yeah, that could push you over the edge.
How about genetics? What a joke that is.
Like someone can look through a microscope at a fetus can figure out that will be a mass murderer decades down the line.
Actually, the belief in genetics is a more likely precipitating factor.
Because that would show emotional naivety that ignores
obvious behavioral conditioning.
Simple behaviorism and a few animal experiments can easily show how to make a friendly mammal into a killer.
Though that itself would be unethical and actually CAUSE the
issue its trying to resolve. So you gotta just think about it hypothetically.
'Its just insanity' - well that is called 'begging the question'.
You think you cannot ever be a killer? Then you have not been abused enough.
America has been at the forefront of many wars. Unfortunately. And their ability to win the peace saddles them with imported trauma.
Abuse can actually be 'infectious', most readily when the abuse itself is then denied.
Passive-aggression. Now THAT is a big killer.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 27, 2022 21:57:13 GMT
I don't think America has been at forefront of many wars. WWI and WWII US went too long. This has been exxagerated by the no-wars. For instance, I've been chanting with a couple of people from Bangladesh, and what are they telling me? They tell me that all the evil in the supercountries. Parallel to this I'm talking with a Chinese guy (not a fan of his own country), and he said that he doesn't think that the West is bad, but he's afraid of the West because it demonizes China, while Chine =/= the Chinese people. Not everyone here are the same. This cultural differences are everywhere. And I did lots of talks with few Germans, and got the importance (after a Clovis's tip, by the way), that Germans are also very different. So do the many others. By this I want to say that even today it cannot be said that: the citizens of US = US govt, or Chinese = China govt. No, people are not the same. And I think that the cultivating that one and for all identity is very dangerous. This might be dangerous, but not in any cases. Usually, my emotions are higher, than my mind, but if I control myself I try not to hurry with the reasons. Bertrund Russell, the British philosoper, in one of his lectures said that most of the problems are because of we are too quick with our results. People hurry to get the results, while to get the correct result - is a matter of proper and calm steps in logic. He brought up the example of Spain which in Medieval times did a fatal wrong conclusion, and failed (I don't remember the consequences and the context). Remember that something quite similar was in the occupied Crimean few years ago: www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-kerch-explosion-idUSKCN1MR1BBI guess this may be connected to the computer games, the social nets, and the media industry much more, than to the politics. The modern teenagers do not even know anything about politics or history. Millions of them only know those rappers with $$ in hands, in cars, girls, etc. But the media isn't the one who's responsible. It was the marxists who raised the idea that the most stupid had to join the most intelligent, because the most intelligent could be dangerous for society. That was Marx's point, and I think his words speak for oneself. The Marxism - this is the real reason that organized that mass-shooting. |
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Post by jonbain on May 28, 2022 8:59:18 GMT
Sure, the people are not the government. But in parts of the world that have better government its because people make the effort to control their govt. Chinese people are cowards and liars. Not all. But if you have seen recent events in Shanghai you have to ask yourself: What would you do if they bolted you in your flat and left you to starve? Or if they decided to vax you to death? Watch this quick video: www.bitchute.com/video/wQex4rcyZfrt/Its no surprise that such evil ideas are coming from Germany. And there are very few places in the world even attempting to expose such evil plans. Anyone can see what is going on. But the few places that are openly talking against the evil of the WEF are predominantly Britan, America, some French. Not even the majority are opposed to the evil. But most places just look away out of fear and cowardice. Just that there are very few places that have people willing to take risks to themselves to defeat the evil. America also was able to enter the wars later because it did not have a population so unruly as to need to be herded into the military as cannon-fodder. Ask yourself this: Which nations are helping you fight the soviets right now? Who is even openly condemning that evil invasion? |
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Post by joustos on May 28, 2022 14:15:33 GMT
Child-abuse / corporal punishment. A violent upbringing generally. A society that ignores such issues.
These are the top 3 issues, but also:
Blame-the-victim mentality. Psychological dissonance. Rape & sodomy. A completely worthless education system that serves only as a place for unwanted youngsters.
Increasing societal hypocrisy.
Anti-depressants? That would be like blaming headaches on headache tablets. But it could be argued that medication without any form of psychotherapy, or ineffective therapy masks the real problem.
But if you have ever been through chronic depression, you will know how much worse it is without medication.
The wrong TYPE of medication? Sure. Cannabis is a million times more effective than any pill, but if your mindset is dog-eat-dog, no medication will help much.
The worst is when you know the spliff works, then society abuses you even more, because it just wants to sell you useless drugs instead.
The "survival of the fittest" syndrome, where atheism makes
life fairly meaningless, and so there is one last chance to go down in a blaze of glory.
A society of dog-eat-dog mindset without empathy is a big part of it.
Have you been here? Or do you like to sit on the side and assume your position
is in the middle?
Neuroscience? Yes. Neuroscience is an important cause because its almost entirely quackery and that itself just adds to the dissonance.
Guns?
Trying to take the guns away in the midst of the WHO communist takeover - yeah, that could push you over the edge.
How about genetics? What a joke that is.
Like someone can look through a microscope at a fetus can figure out that will be a mass murderer decades down the line.
Actually, the belief in genetics is a more likely precipitating factor.
Because that would show emotional naivety that ignores
obvious behavioral conditioning.
Simple behaviorism and a few animal experiments can easily show how to make a friendly mammal into a killer.
Though that itself would be unethical and actually CAUSE the
issue its trying to resolve. So you gotta just think about it hypothetically.
'Its just insanity' - well that is called 'begging the question'.
You think you cannot ever be a killer? Then you have not been abused enough.
America has been at the forefront of many wars. Unfortunately. And their ability to win the peace saddles them with imported trauma.
Abuse can actually be 'infectious', most readily when the abuse itself is then denied.
Passive-aggression. Now THAT is a big killer.
"A violent upbringing generally" is a general idea that covers violence of all sorts, including the violent/destructive behaviour called for in most video-games. but this does not explain why most video-gamers and victims of abuses do not become destructive. Only some brains preserve the animal instinct of aggression, which, to be sure is activated under mysterious conditions. Unfortunately, persons with such ativistic instincts cannot be caused to evolve and should be eliminated. Project: To prevent the deeds of sub-humans.... |
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Post by joustos on May 28, 2022 19:31:57 GMT
We have criminal attackers of all sorts: shooters of children in school, breakers of entry, occupiers, looters, shooters of incendiary devices into apartments or homes, bombing of civilian residences or missile attacks which in the words of Bush II can be so precise as to select which window can be used for the attack, the destruction of Dresden, the nuclear evaporation of two inhabited Japanese cities, the massacres of Ukraine, ... the pushing of individuals in front of approaching trains,... the list is endless. HOW MAY THE PERPETRATION OF SUCH CRIMES BE STOPPED IN THE ACT or prevented {when possible at all}?
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Post by Elizabeth on May 29, 2022 5:29:53 GMT
I think they are hurt on the inside and then one day snap and think they're god and deserve everthing so they eliminate everything in their path to achieve robotic humans who will cather to their every need. Like grab a bottle and drink your milk, child.
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Post by MAYA-EL on May 29, 2022 15:04:59 GMT
Child-abuse / corporal punishment. A violent upbringing generally. A society that ignores such issues.
These are the top 3 issues, but also:
Blame-the-victim mentality. Psychological dissonance. Rape & sodomy. A completely worthless education system that serves only as a place for unwanted youngsters.
Increasing societal hypocrisy.
Anti-depressants? That would be like blaming headaches on headache tablets. But it could be argued that medication without any form of psychotherapy, or ineffective therapy masks the real problem.
But if you have ever been through chronic depression, you will know how much worse it is without medication.
The wrong TYPE of medication? Sure. Cannabis is a million times more effective than any pill, but if your mindset is dog-eat-dog, no medication will help much.
The worst is when you know the spliff works, then society abuses you even more, because it just wants to sell you useless drugs instead.
The "survival of the fittest" syndrome, where atheism makes
life fairly meaningless, and so there is one last chance to go down in a blaze of glory.
A society of dog-eat-dog mindset without empathy is a big part of it.
Have you been here? Or do you like to sit on the side and assume your position
is in the middle?
Neuroscience? Yes. Neuroscience is an important cause because its almost entirely quackery and that itself just adds to the dissonance.
Guns?
Trying to take the guns away in the midst of the WHO communist takeover - yeah, that could push you over the edge.
How about genetics? What a joke that is.
Like someone can look through a microscope at a fetus can figure out that will be a mass murderer decades down the line.
Actually, the belief in genetics is a more likely precipitating factor.
Because that would show emotional naivety that ignores
obvious behavioral conditioning.
Simple behaviorism and a few animal experiments can easily show how to make a friendly mammal into a killer.
Though that itself would be unethical and actually CAUSE the
issue its trying to resolve. So you gotta just think about it hypothetically.
'Its just insanity' - well that is called 'begging the question'.
You think you cannot ever be a killer? Then you have not been abused enough.
America has been at the forefront of many wars. Unfortunately. And their ability to win the peace saddles them with imported trauma.
Abuse can actually be 'infectious', most readily when the abuse itself is then denied.
Passive-aggression. Now THAT is a big killer.
I've suffered from clinical depression ever since about 12yr old and I was never "dagnosed" because my mom didn't believe in things like that instead you either had a demon or you didn't (not the most mentally healthiest of people in the world  ) but I managed my depression without meds and when I was in my 20's and really into bodybuilding I started smoking weed at the end of the day inorder to help me get in enough calories because bodybuilding requires an ungodly amount of food each day, I think I was eating a clean 6000 calories a day split into 6 meals but I digress I didn't really like weed because it seems to cloud mind make things foggy and tired and it didn't help my depression at all So I find it odd that so many people say that it does help them with their depression, I must have a different kind then? |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 30, 2022 3:37:15 GMT
There are thousands, if not millions of people in the United States who experience horrific, traumatic things in their childhood, but they don't shoot up a bunch of elementary school kids. My childhood was extremely screwed up. I saw things nobody should ever have to see at home and was treated like a subhuman dog by most of the people at my school because I was walking around with undiagnosed autism for most of my school years and was seen as socially aberrant because of it.
I didn't shoot up my school. The thing that separates school shooters from the general population is weakness, being too much of a pansy to handle life. There's no excuse for wanton murder. To kill a person, usually, and especially to shoot up a school, is a choice, a choice that you consciously make through your conscious, rational faculties, and in the end, it's on you. Not on guns, not on your abusive parents, not on your abusive classmates, not on anything or anyone but you.
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Post by jonbain on May 30, 2022 17:35:59 GMT
Child-abuse / corporal punishment. A violent upbringing generally. A society that ignores such issues.
These are the top 3 issues, but also:
Blame-the-victim mentality. Psychological dissonance. Rape & sodomy. A completely worthless education system that serves only as a place for unwanted youngsters.
Increasing societal hypocrisy.
Anti-depressants? That would be like blaming headaches on headache tablets. But it could be argued that medication without any form of psychotherapy, or ineffective therapy masks the real problem.
But if you have ever been through chronic depression, you will know how much worse it is without medication.
The wrong TYPE of medication? Sure. Cannabis is a million times more effective than any pill, but if your mindset is dog-eat-dog, no medication will help much.
The worst is when you know the spliff works, then society abuses you even more, because it just wants to sell you useless drugs instead.
The "survival of the fittest" syndrome, where atheism makes
life fairly meaningless, and so there is one last chance to go down in a blaze of glory.
A society of dog-eat-dog mindset without empathy is a big part of it.
Have you been here? Or do you like to sit on the side and assume your position
is in the middle?
Neuroscience? Yes. Neuroscience is an important cause because its almost entirely quackery and that itself just adds to the dissonance.
Guns?
Trying to take the guns away in the midst of the WHO communist takeover - yeah, that could push you over the edge.
How about genetics? What a joke that is.
Like someone can look through a microscope at a fetus can figure out that will be a mass murderer decades down the line.
Actually, the belief in genetics is a more likely precipitating factor.
Because that would show emotional naivety that ignores
obvious behavioral conditioning.
Simple behaviorism and a few animal experiments can easily show how to make a friendly mammal into a killer.
Though that itself would be unethical and actually CAUSE the
issue its trying to resolve. So you gotta just think about it hypothetically.
'Its just insanity' - well that is called 'begging the question'.
You think you cannot ever be a killer? Then you have not been abused enough.
America has been at the forefront of many wars. Unfortunately. And their ability to win the peace saddles them with imported trauma.
Abuse can actually be 'infectious', most readily when the abuse itself is then denied.
Passive-aggression. Now THAT is a big killer.
I've suffered from clinical depression ever since about 12yr old and I was never "dagnosed" because my mom didn't believe in things like that instead you either had a demon or you didn't (not the most mentally healthiest of people in the world  ) but I managed my depression without meds and when I was in my 20's and really into bodybuilding I started smoking weed at the end of the day inorder to help me get in enough calories because bodybuilding requires an ungodly amount of food each day, I think I was eating a clean 6000 calories a day split into 6 meals but I digress I didn't really like weed because it seems to cloud mind make things foggy and tired and it didn't help my depression at all So I find it odd that so many people say that it does help them with their depression, I must have a different kind then?
There are many MANY types of ganja. Not just the different strains, but different parts of the plant do many many things.
This is why its best to grow your own if you can. 'Foggy' ganja typically means typically that you had too much at once. I have 3 or 4 drags every 3 or 4 hours.
But if you just smoke the leaves of the female plant, you get many of the positive effects, without the high or the appetite.
Can also block the appetite with a hit of tobacco.
For best results drink plenty of coffee with it. Avoid alcohol/ganja mix. That is typically what gives it a bad reputation.
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Post by jonbain on May 30, 2022 17:40:12 GMT
There are thousands, if not millions of people in the United States who experience horrific, traumatic things in their childhood, but they don't shoot up a bunch of elementary school kids. My childhood was extremely screwed up. I saw things nobody should ever have to see at home and was treated like a subhuman dog by most of the people at my school because I was walking around with undiagnosed autism for most of my school years and was seen as socially aberrant because of it. I didn't shoot up my school. The thing that separates school shooters from the general population is weakness, being too much of a pansy to handle life. There's no excuse for wanton murder. To kill a person, usually, and especially to shoot up a school, is a choice, a choice that you consciously make through your conscious, rational faculties, and in the end, it's on you. Not on guns, not on your abusive parents, not on your abusive classmates, not on anything or anyone but you.
But if its not caused by abuse, then its ok to abuse people as much as possible, and any problems that ensue are the victims fault?
Sorry.
But intense abuse does eventually just result in tunnel-vision. Sure it seems people have different tolerance levels, but who can be certain as to who exactly has suffered what?
I estimate that the afrikaners have assaulted me about 500 times in my life-time, not including psychological abuse.
70 x 7 = 490
Everyone has a breaking point.
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Post by jonbain on May 30, 2022 17:42:13 GMT
We have criminal attackers of all sorts: shooters of children in school, breakers of entry, occupiers, looters, shooters of incendiary devices into apartments or homes, bombing of civilian residences or missile attacks which in the words of Bush II can be so precise as to select which window can be used for the attack, the destruction of Dresden, the nuclear evaporation of two inhabited Japanese cities, the massacres of Ukraine, ... the pushing of individuals in front of approaching trains,... the list is endless. HOW MAY THE PERPETRATION OF SUCH CRIMES BE STOPPED IN THE ACT or prevented {when possible at all}?
Monasteries.
Places that people can go to find peace and healing. Do they even still exist?
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Post by joustos on May 31, 2022 13:25:43 GMT
We have criminal attackers of all sorts: shooters of children in school, breakers of entry, occupiers, looters, shooters of incendiary devices into apartments or homes, bombing of civilian residences or missile attacks which in the words of Bush II can be so precise as to select which window can be used for the attack, the destruction of Dresden, the nuclear evaporation of two inhabited Japanese cities, the massacres of Ukraine, ... the pushing of individuals in front of approaching trains,... the list is endless. HOW MAY THE PERPETRATION OF SUCH CRIMES BE STOPPED IN THE ACT or prevented {when possible at all}?
Monasteries.
Places that people can go to find peace and healing. Do they even still exist?
Monasteries may be places for personally avoiding violence but they are not means/instruments for stopping or preventing violent acts. Anyway, there are still monasteries, especially for visiting tourists. Their peaceful cloisters match Chinese and Japanese gardens -- places of personal refuge. |
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Post by jonbain on May 31, 2022 15:31:04 GMT
Monasteries.
Places that people can go to find peace and healing. Do they even still exist?
Monasteries may be places for personally avoiding violence but they are not means/instruments for stopping or preventing violent acts. Anyway, there are still monasteries, especially for visiting tourists. Their peaceful cloisters match Chinese and Japanese gardens -- places of personal refuge. My point is that something like monasteries can be used as places for people to find peace.
They would need to be carefully designed of course. You need to work the land to feed yourself. No relationships allowed. No noisy activity.
I am thinking of people that have been too close to the edge for too long. Over-worked cops, teachers, even schoolkids and the like.
There has to be the will. It would be quite easy to do it wrong too, of course.
Like any good idea. It can be twisted into a bad idea easily.
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Post by joustos on Jun 1, 2022 17:09:21 GMT
We have criminal attackers of all sorts: shooters of children in school, breakers of entry, occupiers, looters, shooters of incendiary devices into apartments or homes, bombing of civilian residences or missile attacks which in the words of Bush II can be so precise as to select which window can be used for the attack, the destruction of Dresden, the nuclear evaporation of two inhabited Japanese cities, the massacres of Ukraine, ... the pushing of individuals in front of approaching trains,... the list is endless. HOW MAY THE PERPETRATION OF SUCH CRIMES BE STOPPED IN THE ACT or prevented {when possible at all}? What a shame that the assassin of President Lincoln operated AFTER Lincoln had done his damage -- the murdering of southern American citizens and the destruction of southern plantations! What we need is not punishers, but STOPPERS AND PREVENTERS of crimes against innocent (and non-provoking) humans. PROCLAMATION by a sane forthcoming president: Every town and city of the nation has or must have a police station and continue to have its admirable constitution and policies. However, it must have (funded by the Federal government) a special and independent/autonomous agency which is devoted to stopping/terminating felonies in the act or, as evidently, about to be committed. Legal principles: Every citizen has the right of self-defence and self-protection, including his family and friend, properties, homes, places of work or research, etc. Every special officer/defender shall act as any other citizen by proxy (without the need of being invited to offer defense/protection). The Proxy Agency will make its own protocol and service-policies. E,G., to patrol places, or to be present in congregations [schools, stadiums, theaters, public offices]. The officers, armed and anonymous, shall use, at their own educated discretion, their weapons to kill the criminal perpetrators (attackers, looters, vandalizers, etc.) No warnings, no discussions, no deals, no arrests, no post-shooting assistance. If an acting criminal avoids being killed and flees, he shall be pursued until he is blown up to bits. Thus a reign of terror is created for criminals. [ to be continued] |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 1, 2022 18:54:25 GMT
We have criminal attackers of all sorts: shooters of children in school, breakers of entry, occupiers, looters, shooters of incendiary devices into apartments or homes, bombing of civilian residences or missile attacks which in the words of Bush II can be so precise as to select which window can be used for the attack, the destruction of Dresden, the nuclear evaporation of two inhabited Japanese cities, the massacres of Ukraine, ... the pushing of individuals in front of approaching trains,... the list is endless. HOW MAY THE PERPETRATION OF SUCH CRIMES BE STOPPED IN THE ACT or prevented {when possible at all}? What a shame that the assassin of President Lincoln operated AFTER Lincoln had done his damage -- the murdering of southern American citizens and the destruction of southern plantations! What we need is not punishers, but STOPPERS AND PREVENTERS of crimes against innocent (and non-provoking) humans. PROCLAMATION by a sane forthcoming president: Every town and city of the nation has or must have a police station and continue to have its admirable constitution and policies. However, it must have (funded by the Federal government) a special and independent/autonomous agency which is devoted to stopping/terminating felonies in the act or, as evidently, about to be committed. Legal principles: Every citizen has the right of self-defence and self-protection, including his family and friend, properties, homes, places of work or research, etc. Every special officer/defender shall act as any other citizen by proxy (without the need of being invited to offer defense/protection). The Proxy Agency will make its own protocol and service-policies. E,G., to patrol places, or to be present in congregations [schools, stadiums, theaters, public offices]. The officers, armed and anonymous, shall use, at their own educated discretion, their weapons to kill the criminal perpetrators (attackers, looters, vandalizers, etc.) No warnings, no discussions, no deals, no arrests, no post-shooting assistance. If an acting criminal avoids being killed and flees, he shall be pursued until he is blown up to bits. Thus a reign of terror is created for criminals. [ to be continued]With this terrible tool called the internet people that want to die can get there with an also get there 15 minutes of fame and the internet is set up to work in a way where narcissism is encouraged, exalted, worship and so a narcissist can get the entire world to pay them attention just like the last shooter got and so naturally they do what works. You ask how can we get these shootings to completely stop but my question is why? Do you just not want people to die?, I'm sorry but people die infact the world is crying over however many people were killed by that recent shooter but for that state for that country hell probably for that county no more extra bodies were counted at the end of the month then any other random month of the year because a couple of dozen get shot on camera or a couple of dozen die spread out randomly and car accidents and other miscellaneous unfortunate accidents doesn't matter at the end of the day x amount of people are still dead The difference however is in how the media is able to cause the world turmoil over a specific amount of people that were just part of the annual roster of dead people it's just that they highlighted them with the social marker and commanded the world worship and feed energy to the media and so they do. In the USA over 120 people die per day from car crashes and that's each day, just imagine how sad the world would be if the news reporters painted every single one of those car crashes like they do school shootings Perspective is one of the most powerful tools mankind has in their tool box, is just so unfortunate that hardly anyone owns their own tools anymore. |
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) but I managed my depression without meds and when I was in my 20's and really into bodybuilding I started smoking weed at the end of the day inorder to help me get in enough calories because bodybuilding requires an ungodly amount of food each day, I think I was eating a clean 6000 calories a day split into 6 meals but I digress
) but I managed my depression without meds and when I was in my 20's and really into bodybuilding I started smoking weed at the end of the day inorder to help me get in enough calories because bodybuilding requires an ungodly amount of food each day, I think I was eating a clean 6000 calories a day split into 6 meals but I digress