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Post by xxxxxxxxx on May 26, 2022 23:56:45 GMT
Observation of "no-thingness" is a beginner's mind as a beginner's mind is without form. As subject only to itself it becomes formless as it has nothing to compare to other than itself; self-reflection is beginner's mind.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 27, 2022 12:51:04 GMT
If there's a beginner mind there has to be some elderly or greyer minds.
"No-thingnisness" is a thing, and since that "no-thingnisness" is a self+contradiction.
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Post by MAYA-EL on May 28, 2022 10:07:07 GMT
To say that there is a beginners mind is to imply that there is a destination for the mind of man that he is meant to achieve IE the "mature mind" But that also would imply some form of higher power that has declared this to be that way and that it is supposed to happen in that manner. But if that were true then what about those who die young? Are they held accountable for not reaching point B? If so that would be unjustifiable because they didn't get the chance and yet are punished the same as the old man that avoided wisdom his entire life and died a fool and is deserving of his punishment. So perhaps you are looking at the situation and coloring it with your own imagination Perhaps there is just the mind, some of these minds self reflect, others don't, some look only at things, while others look for no-thing. Anything more then that is just are imagination adding complexity to it to make something entertaining out of it so that it's worth doing and something to keep us busy because the human being loves to "do" and hates to "not do"... I would know first hand seeing as how I'm so ADD  |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 2, 2022 20:35:55 GMT
If there's a beginner mind there has to be some elderly or greyer minds. "No-thingnisness" is a thing, and since that "no-thingnisness" is a self+contradiction. No-thingness is without definition thus is not a thing. No-thingness and thingness are opposites which cancel each other out thus resulting again in no-thing; therefore no-thing is the origin of being as it maintains no-thingness in spite of the opposite. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 2, 2022 20:41:07 GMT
To say that there is a beginners mind is to imply that there is a destination for the mind of man that he is meant to achieve IE the "mature mind" But that also would imply some form of higher power that has declared this to be that way and that it is supposed to happen in that manner. But if that were true then what about those who die young? Are they held accountable for not reaching point B? If so that would be unjustifiable because they didn't get the chance and yet are punished the same as the old man that avoided wisdom his entire life and died a fool and is deserving of his punishment. So perhaps you are looking at the situation and coloring it with your own imagination Perhaps there is just the mind, some of these minds self reflect, others don't, some look only at things, while others look for no-thing. Anything more then that is just are imagination adding complexity to it to make something entertaining out of it so that it's worth doing and something to keep us busy because the human being loves to "do" and hates to "not do"... I would know first hand seeing as how I'm so ADD  The beginner's mind is formless as it receives impression. The mature mind, bounded by patterns, still contains beginners mind as the pattern's have emptiness within them to receive some patterns; to receive a pattern is to require some emptiness within the mind in order for imprinting to occur. An example would be that of language, the brain contains elements within it that make it open to sorting things through language, it has patterns for language within it. Now while it has preconceived patterns for language within it it is open to a variety of languages and in these respects is a blank slate. Beginner's mind exists even within the patterns through which it filters reality. |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 3, 2022 2:41:46 GMT
To say that there is a beginners mind is to imply that there is a destination for the mind of man that he is meant to achieve IE the "mature mind" But that also would imply some form of higher power that has declared this to be that way and that it is supposed to happen in that manner. But if that were true then what about those who die young? Are they held accountable for not reaching point B? If so that would be unjustifiable because they didn't get the chance and yet are punished the same as the old man that avoided wisdom his entire life and died a fool and is deserving of his punishment. So perhaps you are looking at the situation and coloring it with your own imagination Perhaps there is just the mind, some of these minds self reflect, others don't, some look only at things, while others look for no-thing. Anything more then that is just are imagination adding complexity to it to make something entertaining out of it so that it's worth doing and something to keep us busy because the human being loves to "do" and hates to "not do"... I would know first hand seeing as how I'm so ADD The beginner's mind is formless as it receives impression. The mature mind, bounded by patterns, still contains beginners mind as the pattern's have emptiness within them to receive some patterns; to receive a pattern is to require some emptiness within the mind in order for imprinting to occur. An example would be that of language, the brain contains elements within it that make it open to sorting things through language, it has patterns for language within it. Now while it has preconceived patterns for language within it it is open to a variety of languages and in these respects is a blank slate. Beginner's mind exists even within the patterns through which it filters reality. No the concept of the beginners mind is held within the matured mind but only the concept and not actually the beginners mind , only the beginner can have the beginners mind |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 16, 2022 19:12:06 GMT
The beginner's mind is formless as it receives impression. The mature mind, bounded by patterns, still contains beginners mind as the pattern's have emptiness within them to receive some patterns; to receive a pattern is to require some emptiness within the mind in order for imprinting to occur. An example would be that of language, the brain contains elements within it that make it open to sorting things through language, it has patterns for language within it. Now while it has preconceived patterns for language within it it is open to a variety of languages and in these respects is a blank slate. Beginner's mind exists even within the patterns through which it filters reality. No the concept of the beginners mind is held within the matured mind but only the concept and not actually the beginners mind , only the beginner can have the beginners mind The beginner's mind is ever present as there are formless, ie pattern-less, aspects of the mature mind. The mature mind is ever present as the emptiness of the beginner's mind is enclosed by some pattern. Both exist simultaneously. |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Jun 17, 2022 4:47:24 GMT
No the concept of the beginners mind is held within the matured mind but only the concept and not actually the beginners mind , only the beginner can have the beginners mind The beginner's mind is ever present as there are formless, ie pattern-less, aspects of the mature mind. The mature mind is ever present as the emptiness of the beginner's mind is enclosed by some pattern. Both exist simultaneously. No only conceptually, what you said is literally just conceptual |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 23, 2022 21:58:49 GMT
The beginner's mind is ever present as there are formless, ie pattern-less, aspects of the mature mind. The mature mind is ever present as the emptiness of the beginner's mind is enclosed by some pattern. Both exist simultaneously. No only conceptually, what you said is literally just conceptual Yet concepts emerge from the fabric of existence, as such they are phenomena. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jun 24, 2022 5:08:48 GMT
No only conceptually, what you said is literally just conceptual Yet concepts emerge from the fabric of existence, as such they are phenomena. What is that "fabric of existence"? It seems that such a fabric is another concept, isn't it? Doesn't our conceptualization say what thing has been originated from some phenomena and what has not? |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Jun 30, 2022 22:05:43 GMT
Yet concepts emerge from the fabric of existence, as such they are phenomena. What is that "fabric of existence"? It seems that such a fabric is another concept, isn't it? Doesn't our conceptualization say what thing has been originated from some phenomena and what has not? The fabric is the relationship of phenomena with these phenomena being composed of further relationships of phenomena; a fabric is a relationship of relationships. A concept is classification with this classification being the separation of the part from the whole; concepts are particulation thus the concept equates to multiplicity. Multiplicity exists therefore concepts exist. |
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