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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 24, 2022 13:47:21 GMT
Who is an observer? Can an atom observers another atom? Or is it possible at all for an atom to be aware of another atom?
Seems like for an observer there must be some properties. I think it's impossible for an observer to not observe anything, so:
A1: if there's an observer, then something is observed
It wouldn't be possible if that something that is being observed by the observer doesn't exist, so A1 implies:
A2: if there's an observer, then something, that is being observed, exists
Another important point is that the observer must exist, or else it doesn't observe anything, and, in turn, that something that is being observed by it is problematic:
A3: if there's an observer, then it exists only if it is being observed
And it must be clear that either there has to be two observers, or there has to be such an observer that observes itself.
A4: if there's an observer, then either it observes itself, or it is being observed by another one
There is a key point, because this time we can have either both, or just one observer that has to have some special properties. It doesn't seem to be possible for such an observer to observe itself of there is no special mediators, otherwise, how those processes of registration can be happening at the same time? However, thinking more deeply, it might not be absolutely impossible. Having such an example we can infer the next:
A5: if there's an observer that observes itself, then there's an observer that observes something
The reason for the consequent of this formula A5 is in that we're not sure what exactly that observer observes. There's no logical necessity in that whether or not the observer, that observes itself, observes itself. Nonetheless, we know that such an observer observes something.
Summarizing the previous, we can say that one observer exists, because at least one observer must exist, if one of them has been existing already, plus to it, even if that observer observes nothing, but itself, then it's still true, that something exist. So having these axioms we can finally imply that:
R: if there's an observer, then something exists
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 24, 2022 21:08:04 GMT
Who is an observer? Can an atom observers another atom? Or is it possible at all for an atom to be aware of another atom? Seems like for an observer there must be some properties. I think it's impossible for an observer to not observe anything, so: A1: if there's an observer, then something is observedIt wouldn't be possible if that something that is being observed by the observer doesn't exist, so A1 implies: A2: if there's an observer, then something, that is being observed, existsAnother important point is that the observer must exist, or else it doesn't observe anything, and, in turn, that something that is being observed by it is problematic: A3: if there's an observer, then it exists only if it is being observedAnd it must be clear that either there has to be two observers, or there has to be such an observer that observes itself. A4: if there's an observer, then either it observes itself, or it is being observed by another oneThere is a key point, because this time we can have either both, or just one observer that has to have some special properties. It doesn't seem to be possible for such an observer to observe itself of there is no special mediators, otherwise, how those processes of registration can be happening at the same time? However, thinking more deeply, it might not be absolutely impossible. Having such an example we can infer the next: A5: if there's an observer that observes itself, then there's an observer that observes something The reason for the consequent of this formula A5 is in that we're not sure what exactly that observer observes. There's no logical necessity in that whether or not the observer, that observes itself, observes itself. Nonetheless, we know that such an observer observes something. Summarizing the previous, we can say that one observer exists, because at least one observer must exist, if one of them has been existing already, plus to it, even if that observer observes nothing, but itself, then it's still true, that something exist. So having these axioms we can finally imply that: R: if there's an observer, then something existsObservation is reflection and reflection is repetition. The movement of an atom from point A to point B requires the atom reflecting itself across multiple positions across time and space. This reflection of the atom necessitates the atom as having a degree of awareness.
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