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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 17, 2022 22:59:35 GMT
To say nothingness exists is to say nothing exists. Nothingness cannot be proven/disproven as that would prove/disprove something. Nothing is absent of prove or disproof as the absence of proof or disproof is nothing.
Considering nothingness is an absence of being, ie a void, to speak of nothingness is to speak of a relationship between things (ie thing A is void of a quality found in thing B, thing B is void of a quality found in thing A).
However considering nothingness is observed as a relationship this causes a problem when viewing the totality of being. Given the totality of being has no relationship, except to itself (which is to say only the totality exists as there is no contrast of things), the totality of being is one single relationship which is obscure given no contrast occurs. To single relationship of being underlying multiple things is without comparison thus is void of characteristics as it contains them all thus furthermore is beyond time. Time is necessary for definition.
The totality of being is absolute nothing as the totality of being has no definition and is unchanging/beyond time, thus there is absolute nothing (nothing as "no-thing" is an absence of "thingness" which is an absence of definition).
The totality of being cannot be comprehended as it would result in the dissolution of the relative through which we comprehend reality. This dissolution of the relative, ie "time" and "temporality", is a dissolution of contrast.
However to speak of absolute nothing is a contradiction given if nothingness is absolute it must be void of void, ie "the nothingness of nothingness". This double negation, the void of void, is being. Nothingness is thus a contradiction from which anything follows thus resulting in the multiplicity of being which we observe today.
Again, however, to say nothingness is a contradiction is to comprehend it as a thing thus is self-negating unless we are to equate contradiction as an absence of form as an absence of unity. Yet this does not entirely work as the unity of everything is formlessness, as the transcendence of temporality, thus to say form is unity is to instead say it is one unity relative to another unity and to ignore the absolute unity which comes under the term "totality".
Contradiction as an absence of form is the continual reduction of forms resulting in the the dissipation of forms. This dissipation of forms is the manifestation of nothingness where everything is fundamentally the same. Contradiction is thus reduction to that which is the same where everything in opposition to each other is a reduction of the other to an equal state. Continual opposition is continual reduction with this continual reduction resulting in sameness. An example would be a continual war which results in the decimation of everything to the same state of being. Nothingness is thus sameness resulting from continual reduction.
To say "nothingness" is to say "sameness". This furthermore can be expounded upon in the example of 2 things being the same and this sameness results in a void of differences between them; nothing is between them thus a void results in unity and this unity results in further unity which further develops to universal sameness which is without definition. Nothing between things results in the nothingness of the things themselves.
Dually from another perspective to view a thing is to view a void of void, the absence of nothingness or the absence of absence, thus the thing relatively is still nothing. Being as the absence of absence or the void of void is still being as an absence or void.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 18, 2022 6:53:10 GMT
Actually, I mentioned the same in the previous post. Nothingness as a concept is some kind of an addition. But I disagree this cannot be proven at all. There are some proofs of such. The thing is - none of such proves can be taken absolutely.
There's a funny proof (can't say I agree with this one) that any set contains the empty set. It uses a couple of proposition logic rules:
1) let x belongs to the empty set 2) if this is so, then it must be true that x belongs to A (using the next property: if p is false, then q) 3) the step #1 is false, then x belongs to A 4) x = the empty set (using the next property: if x is any set, then x is the empty set).
We can generalize that proof into the next, using this determination: b) amongs all the possible sets there's a set that = the concept of nothingness 4') x = {the set that is the concept of nothingness} c) the concept of nothingness exists
I don't think such a proof is a good one, but it's a possible one.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 24, 2022 20:43:13 GMT
Actually, I mentioned the same in the previous post. Nothingness as a concept is some kind of an addition. But I disagree this cannot be proven at all. There are some proofs of such. The thing is - none of such proves can be taken absolutely. There's a funny proof (can't say I agree with this one) that any set contains the empty set. It uses a couple of proposition logic rules: 1) let x belongs to the empty set 2) if this is so, then it must be true that x belongs to A (using the next property: if p is false, then q) 3) the step #1 is false, then x belongs to A 4) x = the empty set (using the next property: if x is any set, then x is the empty set). We can generalize that proof into the next, using this determination: b) amongs all the possible sets there's a set that = the concept of nothingness 4') x = {the set that is the concept of nothingness} c) the concept of nothingness exists I don't think such a proof is a good one, but it's a possible one. All actuality contains potentiality. Potentiality is the absence of actuality thus is a void. Actuality contains a void. Replace "actuality" with "set" and "potentiality" with empty set.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 25, 2022 8:06:42 GMT
Absolute nothing is whatness
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 30, 2022 22:24:06 GMT
Absolute nothing is whatness Absolute nothingness is absolute indefiniteness. Absolute indefiniteness is an absence of boundaries thus no division further resulting in sameness. What is without definition is the same as definitiveness results in contrast; no contrast is sameness.
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