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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 4, 2022 0:34:59 GMT
Observing a part is observing the totality of what can be observed from a specific angle; this angle as a totality is a whole.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Mar 4, 2022 22:02:49 GMT
It wouldn't be a part now would it
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 5, 2022 5:57:39 GMT
Russell in his article named "Logical Atomism" used this explanation demonstrating how Idealists like Bradley explained why there is only one Whole.
But we can view Part or Whole from another perspective as Oneness and Plurality, and this also might let us see that
- each Plurality viewed from all the perspectives is Oneness
- each Oneness viewed by all the perspectives is Oneness
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 10, 2022 23:05:33 GMT
It wouldn't be a part now would it It would be a whole within a whole. |
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Post by MAYA-EL on Mar 11, 2022 8:55:46 GMT
It wouldn't be a part now would it It would be a whole within a whole. Then parts wouldn't exist |
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Post by Triangle on Mar 13, 2022 11:54:58 GMT
So we only can pay attention to parts?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 14, 2022 15:34:13 GMT
It would be a whole within a whole. Then parts wouldn't exist A part equivocates to a whole, one is a synonym for the other. A part is a whole within a whole. |
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 14, 2022 15:35:26 GMT
So we only can pay attention to parts? A part is the totality of what is observed from a specific angle. This totality is a whole. We observe totalities. |
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Post by Triangle on Mar 15, 2022 1:09:24 GMT
As you wish. But is true.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 15, 2022 20:17:50 GMT
As you wish. But is true. If a part wasn't a totality it wasn't a part. What allows a part (from the perspective of ours) to be a part? – It's totality as a part or a whole understanding of it as a whole. |
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Post by Triangle on Mar 17, 2022 1:04:57 GMT
There is a geometric concept of part and whole on geometry. And geometry is the basis of formal logic, even in the paradoxal terminology here.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 17, 2022 4:43:26 GMT
There is a geometric concept of part and whole on geometry. And geometry is the basis of formal logic, even in the paradoxal terminology here. This is very interesting claim of yours regarding the Geometry foundation for logic. I'd say this question hasn't closed yet (Frege started thinking about it in his period of life), but many logicians or philosophers wouldn't agree with that. Why? One of featured example that disproves it its David Gilbert's book "Foundations of Geometry". It is a classical book, I recommend you to read firsts chapters. This book demonstrates how any geometric concepts can be constructed only with the logical's. |
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Post by Triangle on Mar 17, 2022 14:15:51 GMT
Eugene, you're a gentleman.
So, perfect.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 17, 2022 14:57:04 GMT
Eugene, you're a gentleman. So, perfect. Thanks, but... Why so much attention? I mean I can't say that I'm so much politie as I wish. Anyway, you're also a decent and a good person. Unfrotunately, it's rare to have good people these days. |
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