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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 1, 2022 14:23:46 GMT
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/vladimir-putin-war-russia-ukraineWhy Vladimir Putin has already lost this warThe Russians may yet conquer Ukraine. But Ukrainians have shown in the past few days that they will not let them hold it ( Mon 28 Feb 2022 01.00 EST)
Less than a week into the war, it seems increasingly likely that Vladimir Putin is heading towards a historic defeat. He may win all the battles but still lose the war. Putin’s dream of rebuilding the Russian empire has always rested on the lie that Ukraine isn’t a real nation, that Ukrainians aren’t a real people, and that the inhabitants of Kyiv, Kharkiv and Lviv yearn for Moscow’s rule. That’s a complete lie – Ukraine is a nation with more than a thousand years of history, and Kyiv was already a major metropolis when Moscow was not even a village. But the Russian despot has told his lie so many times that he apparently believes it himself.
When planning his invasion of Ukraine, Putin could count on many known facts. He knew that militarily Russia dwarfs Ukraine. He knew that Nato would not send troops to help Ukraine. He knew that European dependence on Russian oil and gas would make countries like Germany hesitate about imposing stiff sanctions. Based on these known facts, his plan was to hit Ukraine hard and fast, decapitate its government, establish a puppet regime in Kyiv, and ride out the western sanctions.
But there was one big unknown about this plan. As the Americans learned in Iraq and the Soviets learned in Afghanistan, it is much easier to conquer a country than to hold it. Putin knew he had the power to conquer Ukraine. But would the Ukrainian people just accept Moscow’s puppet regime? Putin gambled that they would. After all, as he repeatedly explained to anyone willing to listen, Ukraine isn’t a real nation, and the Ukrainians aren’t a real people. In 2014, people in Crimea hardly resisted the Russian invaders. Why should 2022 be any different?
With each passing day, it is becoming clearer that Putin’s gamble is failing. The Ukrainian people are resisting with all their heart, winning the admiration of the entire world – and winning the war. Many dark days lie ahead. The Russians may still conquer the whole of Ukraine. But to win the war, the Russians would have to hold Ukraine, and they can do that only if the Ukrainian people let them. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
Each Russian tank destroyed and each Russian soldier killed increases the Ukrainians’ courage to resist. And each Ukrainian killed deepens the Ukrainians’ hatred of the invaders. Hatred is the ugliest of emotions. But for oppressed nations, hatred is a hidden treasure. Buried deep in the heart, it can sustain resistance for generations. To reestablish the Russian empire, Putin needs a relatively bloodless victory that will lead to a relatively hateless occupation. By spilling more and more Ukrainian blood, Putin is making sure his dream will never be realised. It won’t be Mikhail Gorbachev’s name written on the death certificate of the Russian empire: it will be Putin’s. Gorbachev left Russians and Ukrainians feeling like siblings; Putin has turned them into enemies, and has ensured that the Ukrainian nation will henceforth define itself in opposition to Russia.
Nations are ultimately built on stories. Each passing day adds more stories that Ukrainians will tell not only in the dark days ahead, but in the decades and generations to come. The president who refused to flee the capital, telling the US that he needs ammunition, not a ride; the soldiers from Snake Island who told a Russian warship to “go fuck yourself”; the civilians who tried to stop Russian tanks by sitting in their path. This is the stuff nations are built from. In the long run, these stories count for more than tanks.
The Russian despot should know this as well as anyone. As a child, he grew up on a diet of stories about German atrocities and Russian bravery in the siege of Leningrad. He is now producing similar stories, but casting himself in the role of Hitler.
The stories of Ukrainian bravery give resolve not only to the Ukrainians, but to the whole world. They give courage to the governments of European nations, to the US administration, and even to the oppressed citizens of Russia. If Ukrainians dare to stop a tank with their bare hands, the German government can dare to supply them with some anti-tank missiles, the US government can dare to cut Russia off Swift, and Russian citizens can dare to demonstrate their opposition to this senseless war.
We can all be inspired to dare to do something, whether it is make a donation, welcome refugees, or help with the struggle online. The war in Ukraine will shape the future of the entire world. If tyranny and aggression are allowed to win, we will all suffer the consequences. There is no point to remain just observers. It’s time to stand up and be counted.
Unfortunately, this war is likely to be long-lasting. Taking different forms, it may well continue for years. But the most important issue has already been decided. The last few days have proved to the entire world that Ukraine is a very real nation, that Ukrainians are a very real people, and that they definitely don’t want to live under a new Russian empire. The main question left open is how long it will take for this message to penetrate the Kremlin’s thick walls.
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Mar 1, 2022 18:45:03 GMT
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/vladimir-putin-war-russia-ukraineWhy Vladimir Putin has already lost this warThe Russians may yet conquer Ukraine. But Ukrainians have shown in the past few days that they will not let them hold it ( Mon 28 Feb 2022 01.00 EST)
Less than a week into the war, it seems increasingly likely that Vladimir Putin is heading towards a historic defeat. He may win all the battles but still lose the war. Putin’s dream of rebuilding the Russian empire has always rested on the lie that Ukraine isn’t a real nation, that Ukrainians aren’t a real people, and that the inhabitants of Kyiv, Kharkiv and Lviv yearn for Moscow’s rule. That’s a complete lie – Ukraine is a nation with more than a thousand years of history, and Kyiv was already a major metropolis when Moscow was not even a village. But the Russian despot has told his lie so many times that he apparently believes it himself.
When planning his invasion of Ukraine, Putin could count on many known facts. He knew that militarily Russia dwarfs Ukraine. He knew that Nato would not send troops to help Ukraine. He knew that European dependence on Russian oil and gas would make countries like Germany hesitate about imposing stiff sanctions. Based on these known facts, his plan was to hit Ukraine hard and fast, decapitate its government, establish a puppet regime in Kyiv, and ride out the western sanctions.
But there was one big unknown about this plan. As the Americans learned in Iraq and the Soviets learned in Afghanistan, it is much easier to conquer a country than to hold it. Putin knew he had the power to conquer Ukraine. But would the Ukrainian people just accept Moscow’s puppet regime? Putin gambled that they would. After all, as he repeatedly explained to anyone willing to listen, Ukraine isn’t a real nation, and the Ukrainians aren’t a real people. In 2014, people in Crimea hardly resisted the Russian invaders. Why should 2022 be any different?
With each passing day, it is becoming clearer that Putin’s gamble is failing. The Ukrainian people are resisting with all their heart, winning the admiration of the entire world – and winning the war. Many dark days lie ahead. The Russians may still conquer the whole of Ukraine. But to win the war, the Russians would have to hold Ukraine, and they can do that only if the Ukrainian people let them. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
Each Russian tank destroyed and each Russian soldier killed increases the Ukrainians’ courage to resist. And each Ukrainian killed deepens the Ukrainians’ hatred of the invaders. Hatred is the ugliest of emotions. But for oppressed nations, hatred is a hidden treasure. Buried deep in the heart, it can sustain resistance for generations. To reestablish the Russian empire, Putin needs a relatively bloodless victory that will lead to a relatively hateless occupation. By spilling more and more Ukrainian blood, Putin is making sure his dream will never be realised. It won’t be Mikhail Gorbachev’s name written on the death certificate of the Russian empire: it will be Putin’s. Gorbachev left Russians and Ukrainians feeling like siblings; Putin has turned them into enemies, and has ensured that the Ukrainian nation will henceforth define itself in opposition to Russia.
Nations are ultimately built on stories. Each passing day adds more stories that Ukrainians will tell not only in the dark days ahead, but in the decades and generations to come. The president who refused to flee the capital, telling the US that he needs ammunition, not a ride; the soldiers from Snake Island who told a Russian warship to “go fuck yourself”; the civilians who tried to stop Russian tanks by sitting in their path. This is the stuff nations are built from. In the long run, these stories count for more than tanks.
The Russian despot should know this as well as anyone. As a child, he grew up on a diet of stories about German atrocities and Russian bravery in the siege of Leningrad. He is now producing similar stories, but casting himself in the role of Hitler.
The stories of Ukrainian bravery give resolve not only to the Ukrainians, but to the whole world. They give courage to the governments of European nations, to the US administration, and even to the oppressed citizens of Russia. If Ukrainians dare to stop a tank with their bare hands, the German government can dare to supply them with some anti-tank missiles, the US government can dare to cut Russia off Swift, and Russian citizens can dare to demonstrate their opposition to this senseless war.
We can all be inspired to dare to do something, whether it is make a donation, welcome refugees, or help with the struggle online. The war in Ukraine will shape the future of the entire world. If tyranny and aggression are allowed to win, we will all suffer the consequences. There is no point to remain just observers. It’s time to stand up and be counted.
Unfortunately, this war is likely to be long-lasting. Taking different forms, it may well continue for years. But the most important issue has already been decided. The last few days have proved to the entire world that Ukraine is a very real nation, that Ukrainians are a very real people, and that they definitely don’t want to live under a new Russian empire. The main question left open is how long it will take for this message to penetrate the Kremlin’s thick walls. The Ukraine didn't even have a draft until the last few years. That is the story that tells it all, but no-draft America will be too ashamed to listen. Small countries must have a huge army and not tolerate the selfishness and cowardice of their young men. Look at Switzerland and Israel, tiny countries that can never be defeated. Or create a new nation with other weak neighbors, which still must spend a lot on defense and require service from their entire youth. Do not be parasites and join an alliance with no-draft NATO, which will collapse unless it sucks off the blood and treasure of the United States. All the countries that Hitler overran deserved it because their youth had no sense of duty and the leaders cowardly depended on bigger countries to protect them. Patriotism suddenly arising out of immediate danger does not count for anything, despite what the stories dishonestly conclude. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 1, 2022 18:58:55 GMT
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/vladimir-putin-war-russia-ukraineWhy Vladimir Putin has already lost this warThe Russians may yet conquer Ukraine. But Ukrainians have shown in the past few days that they will not let them hold it ( Mon 28 Feb 2022 01.00 EST)
Less than a week into the war, it seems increasingly likely that Vladimir Putin is heading towards a historic defeat. He may win all the battles but still lose the war. Putin’s dream of rebuilding the Russian empire has always rested on the lie that Ukraine isn’t a real nation, that Ukrainians aren’t a real people, and that the inhabitants of Kyiv, Kharkiv and Lviv yearn for Moscow’s rule. That’s a complete lie – Ukraine is a nation with more than a thousand years of history, and Kyiv was already a major metropolis when Moscow was not even a village. But the Russian despot has told his lie so many times that he apparently believes it himself.
When planning his invasion of Ukraine, Putin could count on many known facts. He knew that militarily Russia dwarfs Ukraine. He knew that Nato would not send troops to help Ukraine. He knew that European dependence on Russian oil and gas would make countries like Germany hesitate about imposing stiff sanctions. Based on these known facts, his plan was to hit Ukraine hard and fast, decapitate its government, establish a puppet regime in Kyiv, and ride out the western sanctions.
But there was one big unknown about this plan. As the Americans learned in Iraq and the Soviets learned in Afghanistan, it is much easier to conquer a country than to hold it. Putin knew he had the power to conquer Ukraine. But would the Ukrainian people just accept Moscow’s puppet regime? Putin gambled that they would. After all, as he repeatedly explained to anyone willing to listen, Ukraine isn’t a real nation, and the Ukrainians aren’t a real people. In 2014, people in Crimea hardly resisted the Russian invaders. Why should 2022 be any different?
With each passing day, it is becoming clearer that Putin’s gamble is failing. The Ukrainian people are resisting with all their heart, winning the admiration of the entire world – and winning the war. Many dark days lie ahead. The Russians may still conquer the whole of Ukraine. But to win the war, the Russians would have to hold Ukraine, and they can do that only if the Ukrainian people let them. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
Each Russian tank destroyed and each Russian soldier killed increases the Ukrainians’ courage to resist. And each Ukrainian killed deepens the Ukrainians’ hatred of the invaders. Hatred is the ugliest of emotions. But for oppressed nations, hatred is a hidden treasure. Buried deep in the heart, it can sustain resistance for generations. To reestablish the Russian empire, Putin needs a relatively bloodless victory that will lead to a relatively hateless occupation. By spilling more and more Ukrainian blood, Putin is making sure his dream will never be realised. It won’t be Mikhail Gorbachev’s name written on the death certificate of the Russian empire: it will be Putin’s. Gorbachev left Russians and Ukrainians feeling like siblings; Putin has turned them into enemies, and has ensured that the Ukrainian nation will henceforth define itself in opposition to Russia.
Nations are ultimately built on stories. Each passing day adds more stories that Ukrainians will tell not only in the dark days ahead, but in the decades and generations to come. The president who refused to flee the capital, telling the US that he needs ammunition, not a ride; the soldiers from Snake Island who told a Russian warship to “go fuck yourself”; the civilians who tried to stop Russian tanks by sitting in their path. This is the stuff nations are built from. In the long run, these stories count for more than tanks.
The Russian despot should know this as well as anyone. As a child, he grew up on a diet of stories about German atrocities and Russian bravery in the siege of Leningrad. He is now producing similar stories, but casting himself in the role of Hitler.
The stories of Ukrainian bravery give resolve not only to the Ukrainians, but to the whole world. They give courage to the governments of European nations, to the US administration, and even to the oppressed citizens of Russia. If Ukrainians dare to stop a tank with their bare hands, the German government can dare to supply them with some anti-tank missiles, the US government can dare to cut Russia off Swift, and Russian citizens can dare to demonstrate their opposition to this senseless war.
We can all be inspired to dare to do something, whether it is make a donation, welcome refugees, or help with the struggle online. The war in Ukraine will shape the future of the entire world. If tyranny and aggression are allowed to win, we will all suffer the consequences. There is no point to remain just observers. It’s time to stand up and be counted.
Unfortunately, this war is likely to be long-lasting. Taking different forms, it may well continue for years. But the most important issue has already been decided. The last few days have proved to the entire world that Ukraine is a very real nation, that Ukrainians are a very real people, and that they definitely don’t want to live under a new Russian empire. The main question left open is how long it will take for this message to penetrate the Kremlin’s thick walls. The Ukraine didn't even have a draft until the last few years. That is the story that tells it all, but no-draft America will be too ashamed to listen. Small countries must have a huge army and not tolerate the selfishness and cowardice of their young men. Look at Switzerland and Israel, tiny countries that can never be defeated. Or create a new nation with other weak neighbors, which still must spend a lot on defense and require service from their entire youth. Do not be parasites and join an alliance with no-draft NATO, which will collapse unless it sucks off the blood and treasure of the United States. All the countries that Hitler overran deserved it because their youth had no sense of duty and the leaders cowardly depended on bigger countries to protect them. Patriotism suddenly arising out of immediate danger does not count for anything, despite what the stories dishonestly conclude. One famous blogger said: "No, it's not Ukraine who should join NATO, it's NATO which should join that bravely and defenseless Ukrainian army!" The Sage – we're fighting, but we are need help!! There are real human sacrifices! Any help can decrease its number. This is what really important now. Believe me, all those pro/con NATO has to be AFTER our citizens, cities, and infrastructure will be protected. We're under fire. Too many innocents are dying! This is just a pure genocide since Hitler, and I do not exaggerate this. Face facts, check the info, and see with what plague we are having affairs... The Sage, you're a former military, so if it's possible for you offer your help for us! We are needed in experts today! kyivindependent.com/national/want-to-help-ukraines-military-as-a-foreigner-heres-what-you-can-do/ |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 1, 2022 20:14:10 GMT
I've played out so many scenerios in my head about how I want to end Putin's reign and each one just gets craftier. He is an evil monster who shouldn't be allowed to rule anything let alone be around people.  |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 1, 2022 20:44:06 GMT
ElizabethThis is of course good to do something to tell about his crimes, but it's not enough now!! They're killing civilians!!.. At the moment jets are firing different objects. This is genocide! The world watches, but doesn't see!
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Post by lamburk on Mar 2, 2022 9:20:55 GMT
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/feb/28/vladimir-putin-war-russia-ukraineWhy Vladimir Putin has already lost this warThe Russians may yet conquer Ukraine. But Ukrainians have shown in the past few days that they will not let them hold it ( Mon 28 Feb 2022 01.00 EST)
Less than a week into the war, it seems increasingly likely that Vladimir Putin is heading towards a historic defeat. He may win all the battles but still lose the war. Putin’s dream of rebuilding the Russian empire has always rested on the lie that Ukraine isn’t a real nation, that Ukrainians aren’t a real people, and that the inhabitants of Kyiv, Kharkiv and Lviv yearn for Moscow’s rule. That’s a complete lie – Ukraine is a nation with more than a thousand years of history, and Kyiv was already a major metropolis when Moscow was not even a village. But the Russian despot has told his lie so many times that he apparently believes it himself.
When planning his invasion of Ukraine, Putin could count on many known facts. He knew that militarily Russia dwarfs Ukraine. He knew that Nato would not send troops to help Ukraine. He knew that European dependence on Russian oil and gas would make countries like Germany hesitate about imposing stiff sanctions. Based on these known facts, his plan was to hit Ukraine hard and fast, decapitate its government, establish a puppet regime in Kyiv, and ride out the western sanctions.
But there was one big unknown about this plan. As the Americans learned in Iraq and the Soviets learned in Afghanistan, it is much easier to conquer a country than to hold it. Putin knew he had the power to conquer Ukraine. But would the Ukrainian people just accept Moscow’s puppet regime? Putin gambled that they would. After all, as he repeatedly explained to anyone willing to listen, Ukraine isn’t a real nation, and the Ukrainians aren’t a real people. In 2014, people in Crimea hardly resisted the Russian invaders. Why should 2022 be any different?
With each passing day, it is becoming clearer that Putin’s gamble is failing. The Ukrainian people are resisting with all their heart, winning the admiration of the entire world – and winning the war. Many dark days lie ahead. The Russians may still conquer the whole of Ukraine. But to win the war, the Russians would have to hold Ukraine, and they can do that only if the Ukrainian people let them. This seems increasingly unlikely to happen.
Each Russian tank destroyed and each Russian soldier killed increases the Ukrainians’ courage to resist. And each Ukrainian killed deepens the Ukrainians’ hatred of the invaders. Hatred is the ugliest of emotions. But for oppressed nations, hatred is a hidden treasure. Buried deep in the heart, it can sustain resistance for generations. To reestablish the Russian empire, Putin needs a relatively bloodless victory that will lead to a relatively hateless occupation. By spilling more and more Ukrainian blood, Putin is making sure his dream will never be realised. It won’t be Mikhail Gorbachev’s name written on the death certificate of the Russian empire: it will be Putin’s. Gorbachev left Russians and Ukrainians feeling like siblings; Putin has turned them into enemies, and has ensured that the Ukrainian nation will henceforth define itself in opposition to Russia.
Nations are ultimately built on stories. Each passing day adds more stories that Ukrainians will tell not only in the dark days ahead, but in the decades and generations to come. The president who refused to flee the capital, telling the US that he needs ammunition, not a ride; the soldiers from Snake Island who told a Russian warship to “go fuck yourself”; the civilians who tried to stop Russian tanks by sitting in their path. This is the stuff nations are built from. In the long run, these stories count for more than tanks.
The Russian despot should know this as well as anyone. As a child, he grew up on a diet of stories about German atrocities and Russian bravery in the siege of Leningrad. He is now producing similar stories, but casting himself in the role of Hitler.
The stories of Ukrainian bravery give resolve not only to the Ukrainians, but to the whole world. They give courage to the governments of European nations, to the US administration, and even to the oppressed citizens of Russia. If Ukrainians dare to stop a tank with their bare hands, the German government can dare to supply them with some anti-tank missiles, the US government can dare to cut Russia off Swift, and Russian citizens can dare to demonstrate their opposition to this senseless war.
We can all be inspired to dare to do something, whether it is make a donation, welcome refugees, or help with the struggle online. The war in Ukraine will shape the future of the entire world. If tyranny and aggression are allowed to win, we will all suffer the consequences. There is no point to remain just observers. It’s time to stand up and be counted.
Unfortunately, this war is likely to be long-lasting. Taking different forms, it may well continue for years. But the most important issue has already been decided. The last few days have proved to the entire world that Ukraine is a very real nation, that Ukrainians are a very real people, and that they definitely don’t want to live under a new Russian empire. The main question left open is how long it will take for this message to penetrate the Kremlin’s thick walls. The Ukraine didn't even have a draft until the last few years. That is the story that tells it all, but no-draft America will be too ashamed to listen. Small countries must have a huge army and not tolerate the selfishness and cowardice of their young men. Look at Switzerland and Israel, tiny countries that can never be defeated. Or create a new nation with other weak neighbors, which still must spend a lot on defense and require service from their entire youth. Do not be parasites and join an alliance with no-draft NATO, which will collapse unless it sucks off the blood and treasure of the United States. All the countries that Hitler overran deserved it because their youth had no sense of duty and the leaders cowardly depended on bigger countries to protect them. Patriotism suddenly arising out of immediate danger does not count for anything, despite what the stories dishonestly conclude. I don't know, whether it's true or not, but issue seems to be something like, ukraine going with pro-west approach and being an USA ally. However, this thing could have been handled better, instead of going to war and killing at such massive scale. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 2, 2022 11:26:26 GMT
Cowardice Is the Crime That Enables All Others The Ukraine didn't even have a draft until the last few years. That is the story that tells it all, but no-draft America will be too ashamed to listen. Small countries must have a huge army and not tolerate the selfishness and cowardice of their young men. Look at Switzerland and Israel, tiny countries that can never be defeated. Or create a new nation with other weak neighbors, which still must spend a lot on defense and require service from their entire youth. Do not be parasites and join an alliance with no-draft NATO, which will collapse unless it sucks off the blood and treasure of the United States. All the countries that Hitler overran deserved it because their youth had no sense of duty and the leaders cowardly depended on bigger countries to protect them. Patriotism suddenly arising out of immediate danger does not count for anything, despite what the stories dishonestly conclude. I don't know, whether it's true or not, but issue seems to be something like, ukraine going with pro-west approach and being an USA ally. However, this thing could have been handled better, instead of going to war and killing at such massive scale. Lamburk, Russia started this war and started killing us! About what politics are you talking about?!! At the moment Kharkiv are being bombed, and yesterday an Indian student was killed here by Russians!! Those russizn bastards! I beg you to not believe any ideology, but to your heart. And now we're under fire. Russians are killing civilians, destroy our houses and so on. We are Ukrainians, we're a sovereign country, and we want peace! Putin, the murderer, has brought us nothing, but war and mess! If you want to save Ukraine – stop Putin whatever it costs! |
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Post by lamburk on Mar 3, 2022 8:49:35 GMT
I don't know, whether it's true or not, but issue seems to be something like, ukraine going with pro-west approach and being an USA ally. However, this thing could have been handled better, instead of going to war and killing at such massive scale. Lamburk, Russia started this war and started killing us! About what politics are you talking about?!! At the moment Kharkiv are being bombed, and yesterday an Indian student was killed here by Russians!! Those russizn bastards! I beg you to not believe any ideology, but to your heart. And now we're under fire. Russians are killing civilians, destroy our houses and so on. We are Ukrainians, we're a sovereign country, and we want peace! Putin, the murderer, has brought us nothing, but war and mess! If you want to save Ukraine – stop Putin whatever it costs! Yes, I do agree, that putin is the one who has started this. But, I also think, something was wrong internally with ukraine intelligence, that russians seized an opportunity. That's what I am saying here. Common man is suffering, though. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 3, 2022 10:03:59 GMT
Lamburk, Russia started this war and started killing us! About what politics are you talking about?!! At the moment Kharkiv are being bombed, and yesterday an Indian student was killed here by Russians!! Those russizn bastards! I beg you to not believe any ideology, but to your heart. And now we're under fire. Russians are killing civilians, destroy our houses and so on. We are Ukrainians, we're a sovereign country, and we want peace! Putin, the murderer, has brought us nothing, but war and mess! If you want to save Ukraine – stop Putin whatever it costs! Yes, I do agree, that putin is the one who has started this. But, I also think, something was wrong internally with ukraine intelligence, that russians seized an opportunity. That's what I am saying here. Common man is suffering, though. With Ukrainian intelligence? I'm the one of them. What's so wrong with me, Lamburk. Did I bomb children and destroy civilian buildings?!.. |
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Post by lamburk on Mar 3, 2022 10:13:04 GMT
Yes, I do agree, that putin is the one who has started this. But, I also think, something was wrong internally with ukraine intelligence, that russians seized an opportunity. That's what I am saying here. Common man is suffering, though. With Ukrainian intelligence? I'm the one of them. What's so wrong with me, Lamburk. Did I bomb children and destroy civilian buildings?!.. Ok, Ok, I was not aware, that you are part of military organization of Ukraine. Then, it clearly shows that putin and KGB secretly decided to invade ukraine. This is not acceptable, as it's a grave crime. But I am not an authority in India, otherwise, I would have called for a safe exit for ukraninans in India, till the time, things don't become negotiable. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 3, 2022 14:36:39 GMT
With Ukrainian intelligence? I'm the one of them. What's so wrong with me, Lamburk. Did I bomb children and destroy civilian buildings?!.. Ok, Ok, I was not aware, that you are part of military organization of Ukraine. Then, it clearly shows that putin and KGB secretly decided to invade ukraine. This is not acceptable, as it's a grave crime. But I am not an authority in India, otherwise, I would have called for a safe exit for ukraninans in India, till the time, things don't become negotiable. I do apologize for my emotions, Lamburk. You know, during all those countless air strikes I stop being very patient, so just wanted to say, no offenses or something. I respect you, respect citizens of India - the true proto-European place, and the first state where Philosophy was born. So, yes, it's true. They thought that they could just easily invade and enslaved us, but the spirit of our predecessors helped us to prevent their savagary attacks. I think their wishes are seen by their actions. That "Russian world" brings nothing, but disaster. And unfortunately, two days ago a student from India died in Kharkiv. He was at the center of it when the Russian missile was thrown to the center of the city... I am very sorry for him. Yes. The situation even gets worse, most of the people don't have any food, shelters, cloths, or the other essentials. They're just getting killed. We're fighting for our freedome, and there is no way back! That Putin rat regime made us suffering, then it is our time to send him to hell! |
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Post by lamburk on Mar 3, 2022 15:03:59 GMT
Ok, Ok, I was not aware, that you are part of military organization of Ukraine. Then, it clearly shows that putin and KGB secretly decided to invade ukraine. This is not acceptable, as it's a grave crime. But I am not an authority in India, otherwise, I would have called for a safe exit for ukraninans in India, till the time, things don't become negotiable. I do apologize for my emotions, Lamburk. You know, during all those countless air strikes I stop being very patient, so just wanted to say, no offenses or something. I respect you, respect citizens of India - the true proto-European place, and the first state where Philosophy was born. So, yes, it's true. They thought that they could just easily invade and enslaved us, but the spirit of our predecessors helped us to prevent their savagary attacks. I think their wishes are seen by their actions. That "Russian world" brings nothing, but disaster. And unfortunately, two days ago a student from India died in Kharkiv. He was at the center of it when the Russian missile was thrown to the center of the city... I am very sorry for him. Yes. The situation even gets worse, most of the people don't have any food, shelters, cloths, or the other essentials. They're just getting killed. We're fighting for our freedome, and there is no way back! That Putin rat regime made us suffering, then it is our time to send him to hell! I can understand what each one of you are going,as this is a very serious catastrophic event and not some movie being played. Putin is not going to win, that's for sure. There are some people who live in some wonderland ,I guess you understood whom I am pointing to. That said ukraine is a different nation now and ukranians will decide what they want. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 3, 2022 17:32:19 GMT
I do apologize for my emotions, Lamburk. You know, during all those countless air strikes I stop being very patient, so just wanted to say, no offenses or something. I respect you, respect citizens of India - the true proto-European place, and the first state where Philosophy was born. So, yes, it's true. They thought that they could just easily invade and enslaved us, but the spirit of our predecessors helped us to prevent their savagary attacks. I think their wishes are seen by their actions. That "Russian world" brings nothing, but disaster. And unfortunately, two days ago a student from India died in Kharkiv. He was at the center of it when the Russian missile was thrown to the center of the city... I am very sorry for him. Yes. The situation even gets worse, most of the people don't have any food, shelters, cloths, or the other essentials. They're just getting killed. We're fighting for our freedome, and there is no way back! That Putin rat regime made us suffering, then it is our time to send him to hell! I can understand what each one of you are going,as this is a very serious catastrophic event and not some movie being played. Putin is not going to win, that's for sure. There are some people who live in some wonderland ,I guess you understood whom I am pointing to. That said ukraine is a different nation now and ukranians will decide what they want. The main problem is that Putin wishes to annihilate us, and I am seriously telling this now. Just what is he doing? He still continues to kill our civilians!! I think everyone should have got that no one here is going to agree with Putin, so what that last one is doing: to erase us totally. To destroy us all. This is an act of inhumanity, this is an act of genocide. And still the outer help is rare. I hope the other states will start thinking before its too late for them to turn to USSR 2.0. |
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Post by lamburk on Mar 6, 2022 7:23:24 GMT
I can understand what each one of you are going,as this is a very serious catastrophic event and not some movie being played. Putin is not going to win, that's for sure. There are some people who live in some wonderland ,I guess you understood whom I am pointing to. That said ukraine is a different nation now and ukranians will decide what they want. The main problem is that Putin wishes to annihilate us, and I am seriously telling this now. Just what is he doing? He still continues to kill our civilians!! I think everyone should have got that no one here is going to agree with Putin, so what that last one is doing: to erase us totally. To destroy us all. This is an act of inhumanity, this is an act of genocide. And still the outer help is rare. I hope the other states will start thinking before its too late for them to turn to USSR 2.0. Yes, this is an invasion, and proper one. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Mar 6, 2022 8:22:11 GMT
The main problem is that Putin wishes to annihilate us, and I am seriously telling this now. Just what is he doing? He still continues to kill our civilians!! I think everyone should have got that no one here is going to agree with Putin, so what that last one is doing: to erase us totally. To destroy us all. This is an act of inhumanity, this is an act of genocide. And still the outer help is rare. I hope the other states will start thinking before its too late for them to turn to USSR 2.0. Yes, this is an invasion, and proper one. We keep struggling, but we also do need help. This is not only an invasion, this is genocide. foreignpolicy.com/2022/03/03/putin-kgb-history-war-ukraine-genocide-russia/ |
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