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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 10, 2021 11:56:24 GMT
Unfortunately, this type of racism is one of the dominant in this world. I think we got to know about this to be careful with it. We shouldn't let such things happen again. For the humanity's sake - the sake of every nation, not only for the chosen ones. And it has to be said this fact isn't new. Actually there are plenty of places about the choseness. It's not a secret, let's bring these ones: Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine (Exodus 19:5)
For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth (Deuteroshnomy 14:2)
For You have separated them from all the peoples of the earth as Your inheritance, as You spoke through Moses Your servant, when You brought our fathers forth from Egypt, O Lord God (1 Kinks 8:53)
Blessed be the Lord your God who delighted in you to set you on the throne of Israel; because the Lord loved Israel forever, therefore He made you king, to do justice and righteousness (1 Kingss 10:9)
And so on. You can even find some pieces of that in more later Bible, check this out: I will remember their sins no more (Hebrews 8:12) |
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Aug 10, 2021 17:37:44 GMT
Unfortunately, this type of racism is one of the dominant in this world. I think we got to know about this to be careful with it. We shouldn't let such things happen again. For the humanity's sake - the sake of every nation, not only for the chosen ones. And it has to be said this fact isn't new. Actually there are plenty of places about the choseness. It's not a secret, let's bring these ones: Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine (Exodus 19:5)
For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth (Deuteroshnomy 14:2)
For You have separated them from all the peoples of the earth as Your inheritance, as You spoke through Moses Your servant, when You brought our fathers forth from Egypt, O Lord God (1 Kinks 8:53)
Blessed be the Lord your God who delighted in you to set you on the throne of Israel; because the Lord loved Israel forever, therefore He made you king, to do justice and righteousness (1 Kingss 10:9)
And so on. You can even find some pieces of that in more later Bible, check this out: I will remember their sins no more (Hebrews 8:12) Standing Up for Paleonasties in Stooping in the Mudhole
Americans should imitate the Jews' sense of specialness ("Exceptionalism"), instead of being jealous of a God-appointed role model. The class that feels superior and makes it stick, but who would be nobodies in nowhere land if it weren't for their families' money, sponsor and promote anti-semitism to throw the rest of us off the track. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 10, 2021 17:44:40 GMT
Unfortunately, this type of racism is one of the dominant in this world. I think we got to know about this to be careful with it. We shouldn't let such things happen again. For the humanity's sake - the sake of every nation, not only for the chosen ones. And it has to be said this fact isn't new. Actually there are plenty of places about the choseness. It's not a secret, let's bring these ones: Now then, if you will indeed obey My voice and keep My covenant, then you shall be My own possession among all the peoples, for all the earth is Mine (Exodus 19:5)
For you are a holy people to the Lord your God, and the Lord has chosen you to be a people for His own possession out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth (Deuteroshnomy 14:2)
For You have separated them from all the peoples of the earth as Your inheritance, as You spoke through Moses Your servant, when You brought our fathers forth from Egypt, O Lord God (1 Kinks 8:53)
Blessed be the Lord your God who delighted in you to set you on the throne of Israel; because the Lord loved Israel forever, therefore He made you king, to do justice and righteousness (1 Kingss 10:9)
And so on. You can even find some pieces of that in more later Bible, check this out: I will remember their sins no more (Hebrews 8:12) Standing Up for Paleonasties in Stooping in the Mudhole
Americans should imitate the Jews' sense of specialness ("Exceptionalism"), instead of being jealous of a God-appointed role model. The class that feels superior and makes it stick, but who would be nobodies in nowhere land if it weren't for their families' money, sponsor and promote anti-semitism to throw the rest of us off the track. It's a pointless claim. I was asking about somethnig different. A wrong turn. |
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 10, 2021 18:27:59 GMT
It is really ethnocentrism, not racism, since Jews are really an ethnicity. Anyway, there is a problem with Jews but you completely miss it. Humanity in general has turned into complete shit and deserves nothing but death. So I don't care about average people being abused. Decent people should organize into groups to rise above disgusting average humanity as I said in my post on "Intentional Ethnicity".
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 10, 2021 19:02:56 GMT
fschmidt Maybe the humanity isn't good, but only God can decide it. And I don't remember God Himself told us to destroy the humanity or smth like that. God - the Christian God - ordered us live peacefully. But there are almost no Christians left. People have stop interesting in leaving peacefully and calm; people want wars, debates, intrigues, etc. Ethnocentricity and racism aren't inconsistent. Being ethnocentrist you can harm the other cultures, folks, and nations. This because being an egoist is the same. That's why egoism had been called the devil's feature. The ethnocentrism is the same as narcissism, and there is no good in narcissism. Even child tales tell us about it. Live in peace and harmony is what to be the most difficult task. The most keenest mind who is unable to live in peace and harmony doesn't belong this world.
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 10, 2021 19:37:57 GMT
I am not destroying humanity but I don't care if people kill each other. God used the Israelites as an example of how to live, and this is for a group to set itself apart from depraved humanity so that it can implement morality internally.
Ethnocentricity doesn't require harming others. It only requires supporting your own group. Egoism seems to concern Christians, but the Old Testament says nothing about it, so I don't care about it.
The only way to live in peace and harmony is to be a Buddhist. But that is not the most difficult task. The most difficult task is to support goodness in a world of evil. And this requires rejecting harmony with evil.
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Post by joustos on Aug 10, 2021 20:05:36 GMT
It is really ethnocentrism, not racism, since Jews are really an ethnicity. Anyway, there is a problem with Jews but you completely miss it. Humanity in general has turned into complete shit and deserves nothing but death. So I don't care about average people being abused. Decent people should organize into groups to rise above disgusting average humanity as I said in my post on "Intentional Ethnicity". I have a set of two reactions: FIRSTLY, I like the term "ethnocentrism" for "positive" racism [whereas plain racism or "negative" racism involves hate or enmity against some other race or ethnicity]. And I agree that, in whatever way it came about, the Jewish People are an ethnicity; that is, they have a language, religion, customs, and possibly a political organization, that distinguishes them from other Peoples. By the same token, the Nazis were ethnocentric, as they advocated Aryanism, even though they are accused of racism (specifically anti-semitism). American Exceptionalism would be another form of positive racism, but any positive racism, or ethnocentrism, requires a sturdy cultural pivot, be it a God or the belief that a nation has a destiny [to be as big as from the Atlantic to the Pacific; to rule the world; to provide the priests to all the nations... and unify them -- religiously and financially under one God; etc.] // SECONDLY, the leaders of an ethnic community may be as exceptional as the community but they do not thereby have the right to abuse or to oppress ordinary or modest people, whether they are citizens or foreigners. (Here we have big issues of morality and of the rights of governments, and of the forms of government.) |
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Post by joustos on Aug 11, 2021 14:53:01 GMT
It is really ethnocentrism, not racism, since Jews are really an ethnicity. Anyway, there is a problem with Jews but you completely miss it. Humanity in general has turned into complete shit and deserves nothing but death. So I don't care about average people being abused. Decent people should organize into groups to rise above disgusting average humanity as I said in my post on "Intentional Ethnicity". I have a set of two reactions: FIRSTLY, I like the term "ethnocentrism" for "positive" racism [whereas plain racism or "negative" racism involves hate or enmity against some other race or ethnicity]. And I agree that, in whatever way it came about, the Jewish People are an ethnicity; that is, they have a language, religion, customs, and possibly a political organization, that distinguishes them from other Peoples. By the same token, the Nazis were ethnocentric, as they advocated Aryanism, even though they are accused of racism (specifically anti-semitism). American Exceptionalism would be another form of positive racism, but any positive racism, or ethnocentrism, requires a sturdy cultural pivot, be it a God or the belief that a nation has a destiny [to be as big as from the Atlantic to the Pacific; to rule the world; to provide the priests to all the nations... and unify them -- religiously and financially under one God; etc.] // SECONDLY, the leaders of an ethnic community may be as exceptional as the community but they do not thereby have the right to abuse or to oppress ordinary or modest people, whether they are citizens or foreigners. (Here we have big issues of morality and of the rights of governments, and of the forms of government.) THIRDLY [[ as a later addition], who exactly are the "average" people whom you oppose to "decent" people? Undoubtedly people who do not belong to the class of the Holy People, or the class of the Noble People, or, to think for W. Wilson and for Bush The Second, the class of the Mercenaries for the Holy People, or the class of some other self-righteous People. How about the class of Might is Right believers? |
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Post by joustos on Aug 11, 2021 19:01:51 GMT
How about the class of people whom President Obama had called The Para-Military Force and is now known as Antifa and two other names?
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Post by jonbain on Aug 11, 2021 20:21:21 GMT
The real issue here is the the Bible teaches s-e-x-u-a-l ethics.
Those that over-populate, have no such ethic, even if they
claim to be holy. Israel has a better reproductive ethic
than the Palestinians do, making Israel closer to God.
Someone who practices considerate and moderate reproduction
is close to God, even if such a person labels himself 'atheist'.
Someone else can label himself 'devout' and utter many prayers
and build churches, and then over-populate the other 6 days
of the week. Such a person is further from God, than the moderate
person who calls himself 'atheist'.
Its actually all that simple.
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Post by joustos on Aug 12, 2021 15:38:59 GMT
I am not destroying humanity but I don't care if people kill each other. God used the Israelites as an example of how to live, and this is for a group to set itself apart from depraved humanity so that it can implement morality internally. Ethnocentricity doesn't require harming others. It only requires supporting your own group. Egoism seems to concern Christians, but the Old Testament says nothing about it, so I don't care about it. The only way to live in peace and harmony is to be a Buddhist. But that is not the most difficult task. The most difficult task is to support goodness in a world of evil. And this requires rejecting harmony with evil. [[bolding added by me]] What is this GOODNESS you are talking about? And is the SUPPORT of it a belief in it, an adherence to it, what?? Finally, why do you bundle up harmony with evil rather than Goodness? Speaking of music, harmony is certainly a prerequisite of its beauty. Beauty in this valley of tears. |
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