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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 16, 2021 11:17:19 GMT
Today rock is unpopular. Young timers (zoomers, zeemers, and etc) listen to variety of new rap schools. There are trillions of different styles: each new day brings a dozen of the newer new styles. But in most of that - all of those rap is a crappy shtt: total nonsense, "hip-hopperring", degradation, mumbling, jumbling, etc.
Not surprisingly white people become the object of different stinky accusations. And the same is about the culture. We saw that "Gone With The Wind" and "Uncle Remus Stories...", with many many others were prohibited or even burnt. And also trying to apply the genocide against the whities the rebels wanted to destroy the Andrew Jackson's statue. And we could see many many different animal like behaviour during the last years.
The time for the other cultural things are also there. And rock music isn't the exception. It became rusty and unpopular, while even more or less white school kids stopped copying their daddies, and turn to copy those weird dances and the other really queer, strange, and weird things.
The wave of intentional or non-intentional rejection of the rock music I tied up with white men genocide. If I'm wrong, then what cultural things that belong to white people are popular now? - There are none of such. And the forbidden rock culture is one of the best arguments that my opinion isn't just an opinion.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 16, 2021 11:44:06 GMT
Weird because Rock n' Roll was invented by black men (back when they had good taste in music) in the Deep South before whites took it up and the Uncle Remus stories are black fairy tales from the same region. I like old colored rock music like Chuck Berry. Current colored music is trash though, it's either garbage rap or that faggoty falsetto crap and it all sounds the same. And yeah, wiggers trying to copy gangsta culture is pathetic, like have some respect man you're white, you're the people that produced Socrates, Mozart, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Shakespeare, stop copying other culture's lowborn criminal trash. If whites are going to copy something from blacks let it be something positive they've done (and African Americans have many positive accomplishments to their name)... like rock music now that I think about it.
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Post by antor on May 16, 2021 11:55:49 GMT
I live in Göteborg where the rock/metal scene is pretty big. It's unfortunate that music kind of feeds segregation in that way, there is enough segregation already. And groups blame eachother which just leads to more segregation.
In recent years i actually made a journey from metal to techno to synth/pop and hiphop and yeah you CAN find something good in every genre. May sound weird but to me music is like food you get used to whatever eventually.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 16, 2021 12:15:45 GMT
I live in Göteborg where the rock/metal scene is pretty big. It's unfortunate that music kind of feeds segregation in that way, there is enough segregation already. And groups blame eachother which just leads to more segregation. In recent years i actually made a journey from metal to techno to synth/pop and hiphop and yeah you CAN find something good in every genre. May sound weird but to me music is like food you get used to whatever eventually. I also don't like any segregations, but the thing is about to be cultural, and that's why - an important one. I mean, burying rock music might be its final exhale. The question is - are these things tied up: cultural preferences and musical today of most of the people?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 16, 2021 12:24:26 GMT
Weird because Rock n' Roll was invented by black men (back when they had good taste in music) in the Deep South before whites took it up and the Uncle Remus stories are black fairy tales from the same region. I like old colored rock music like Chuck Berry. Current colored music is trash though, it's either garbage rap or that faggoty falsetto crap and it all sounds the same. And yeah, wiggers trying to copy gangsta culture is pathetic, like have some respect man you're white, you're the people that produced Socrates, Mozart, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Shakespeare, stop copying other culture's lowborn criminal trash. If whites are going to copy something from blacks let it be something positive they've done (and African Americans have many positive accomplishments to their name)... like rock music now that I think about it. I wouldn't disagree. Maybe you're right. I have couple of Jazz books of my dad, and even a kid I knew that proto-blues was that Rock'n'Roll got to continue. But I may doubt about the blues. I think Tennessee white folks, and workers could have their melodies almost similar to blues. When I listen to Cajun or Bluegrass I would say that those styles came from something close to blues, but they say they have more in Irish and England (and also German, French, etc) folk music also. So, the differentiation is hard to reveal. Soviet music analytics thought that blues and jazz came from the work songs like "I Took A Hammer" or "How Long". Previously I would agree with them, but awhile a time I listened to some songs and read about such songs as about Casey Jones and Oh, When the Saints, and I guess that there were work songs among the 17-19 Americans also. While the soviet analytics thought that 'the work songs' were completely about the slavery, I think they were wrong, and the elements of the work songs were widespread. Moreover, considering the harmonica - I mean a bluesharp or a mouth harp - it came during 1855-1865... to US, and I think that instrument is one of the most tiniest connected with blues. And who played first on the harmonica? - The soldiers during the famous war 1861-1865.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on May 16, 2021 12:34:42 GMT
Weird because Rock n' Roll was invented by black men (back when they had good taste in music) in the Deep South before whites took it up and the Uncle Remus stories are black fairy tales from the same region. I like old colored rock music like Chuck Berry. Current colored music is trash though, it's either garbage rap or that faggoty falsetto crap and it all sounds the same. And yeah, wiggers trying to copy gangsta culture is pathetic, like have some respect man you're white, you're the people that produced Socrates, Mozart, Leonardo Da Vinci, and Shakespeare, stop copying other culture's lowborn criminal trash. If whites are going to copy something from blacks let it be something positive they've done (and African Americans have many positive accomplishments to their name)... like rock music now that I think about it. I wouldn't disagree. Maybe you're right. I have couple of Jazz books of my dad, and even a kid I knew that proto-blues was that Rock'n'Roll got to continue. But I may doubt about the blues. I think Tennessee white folks, and workers could have their melodies almost similar to blues. When I listen to Cajun or Bluegrass I would say that those styles came from something close to blues, but they say they have more in Irish and England (and also German, French, etc) folk music also. So, the differentiation is hard to reveal. Soviet music analytics thought that blues and jazz came from the work songs like "I Took A Hammer" or "How Long". Previously I would agree with them, but awhile a time I listened to some songs and read about such songs as about Casey Jones and Oh, When the Saints, and I guess that there were work songs among the 17-19 Americans also. While the soviet analytics thought that 'the work songs' were completely about the slavery, I think they were wrong, and the elements of the work songs were widespread. Moreover, considering the harmonica - I mean a bluesharp or a mouth harp - it came during 1855-1865... to US, and I think that instrument is one of the most tiniest connected with blues. And who played first on the harmonica? - The soldiers during the famous war 1861-1865. Oh yeah, the white Southron is definitely underrated in the development of music usually attributed to black people, this is true. I remember a quote from one of those many travel books where a Yankee writes about his travels through the South (Spying on the South, I think it was called), this black man he came across in the state of Mississippi said of the first time he heard country music, "that's just a white man singing the blues."
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Post by Triangle on May 16, 2021 15:22:15 GMT
We need to be calm and prudent in that questions. There are no need to hurry in our defence, but try to study what kind of move the enemy of the good is making.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on May 16, 2021 17:26:24 GMT
We need to be calm and prudent in that questions. There are no need to hurry in our defence, but try to study what kind of move the enemy of the good is making. Most of the rockers are probably restless =)
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Post by Triangle on May 16, 2021 17:36:21 GMT
Ok, you win, haha.
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Post by Sonny on Jul 13, 2021 18:55:28 GMT
Classical Music is the music of "white men". Also, Synthwave is kind of like modern "white music" at least primarily. Not saying it competes with the former.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 20, 2021 16:14:05 GMT
Classical Music is the music of "white men". Also, Synthwave is kind of like modern "white music" at least primarily. Not saying it competes with the former. Synthwave? Hmm, I have never heard of it before. I listened to Pet Shop Boys, the Tryanglz, Duran Duran, and some similar, but I don't know whether they are the synthwave. I gotta listen to it. Thanks. And honestly, only partially the classic music correlates with my soul. I can just nod at any famous composers that their music is awesome. I like some modern composers though. Mostly from videogames: Akira Yamaoka, Jesper Kyd, Kevin MacLeod, and some others.
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Post by Sonny on Aug 4, 2021 19:30:53 GMT
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Post by Sonny on Aug 4, 2021 19:34:11 GMT
Classical Music is the music of "white men". Also, Synthwave is kind of like modern "white music" at least primarily. Not saying it competes with the former. Synthwave? Hmm, I have never heard of it before. I listened to Pet Shop Boys, the Tryanglz, Duran Duran, and some similar, but I don't know whether they are the synthwave. I gotta listen to it. Thanks. And honestly, only partially the classic music correlates with my soul. I can just nod at any famous composers that their music is awesome. I like some modern composers though. Mostly from videogames: Akira Yamaoka, Jesper Kyd, Kevin MacLeod, and some others. You can check the 'what are you listening to' thread: arktos.boards.net/thread/64/listening?page=76Most of the music I've posted is synthwave.
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Post by joustos on Aug 4, 2021 21:05:42 GMT
To begin with, "Rock is a music of White Men" can mean either that Rock is preferred by White Men" or "Rock was created by White men". The latter meaning seems be the issue here, so far, in this thread. And I ask, Is any human creation something that is done all at once, in complete form, by some man, on one occasion? In the U.S., various Black men have been involved in the making of jazz, rock-'n'roll, and Rock -- all of which grew out of White dance or marching music, in which there is a preponderance of PERCUSSION. Apparently Blacks have a taste for, and a will to compose music that is emphatically percussive. // Jazz, Rock, and Rock Alternative , whoever composed them, follow the character of Classical music, which is typically European or White-created (since the 14th century), namely MEASURE/METER (the parceling of sound into a discrete number of durations (such Long-Short-Short) -- originally in Greek and Latin poetry, and in vocal music; CONSONANCE in polyphonic music; REGULAR RHYTHM ;and, above all, melodic TONICITY, which replaced the Greco-Latin Modality and freewheeling plainchant. )In the 20th century, while "Tonal music" was triumphing, one demented composer, Schoenburg, tried to abolish "tonality" by producing "atonal/serial" music. It is the equivalent of painting done by a color-blind person, garbage.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 5, 2021 7:14:55 GMT
To begin with, "Rock is a music of White Men" can mean either that Rock is preferred by White Men" or "Rock was created by White men". The latter meaning seems be the issue here, so far, in this thread. And I ask, Is any human creation something that is done all at once, in complete form, by some man, on one occasion? In the U.S., various Black men have been involved in the making of jazz, rock-'n'roll, and Rock -- all of which grew out of White dance or marching music, in which there is a preponderance of PERCUSSION. Apparently Blacks have a taste for, and a will to compose music that is emphatically percussive. // Jazz, Rock, and Rock Alternative , whoever composed them, follow the character of Classical music, which is typically European or White-created (since the 14th century), namely MEASURE/METER (the parceling of sound into a discrete number of durations (such Long-Short-Short) -- originally in Greek and Latin poetry, and in vocal music; CONSONANCE in polyphonic music; REGULAR RHYTHM ;and, above all, melodic TONICITY, which replaced the Greco-Latin Modality and freewheeling plainchant. )In the 20th century, while "Tonal music" was triumphing, one demented composer, Schoenburg, tried to abolish "tonality" by producing "atonal/serial" music. It is the equivalent of painting done by a color-blind person, garbage.It's huge. Certainly we have to get closer to details. But there's something I also wanted to add. The style of music and it's cultural background isn't irrelevant. For instance Goths music is more cultural or stylish. The same can be said about many waves, as for instance, the new metal or some punk rockers movements. That's why we see the bands br various in their ways. But your point of how we'd better look at the theme I like the most. Your way of describing reveals us a scientific setting. What I have to add also is that I'm not so good at that. I've read about different modes in Plato's "Republic" and also in some books of a mouth harmonica (or a bluesharp). I don't know many things about Tonality and Atonality, or I'm not good in Consonance/Dissonance if to take it wider and in a more professional way. I know the difference, and that's all. Not only here, in music, but almost anywhere I think that we don't have to choose methodological dictatorship. For me classic music can have percussion, can have atonality, can have tonality, and so on. "Classical music" in a way we see it through the history isn't correct. Those people in past had been circled in the narrow conditions of their cultural life. As soon as we've got the cultural differentiation and cultural plurality we have finally understood that the classic is rather the condition of a soul, than some tyranny set of certain methods and orders. Music (and many other things) is seemed to be more various, than it looks like at a first sight. Anyway, now "Rock music" is more a political movement, than a music one. At contrary to this, "rap music" is also a political way. Should we compare these or the other styles in a composer manner?.. Unfortunately for us, the detailed and intelligent way you've described isn't come in handy now.
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