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Nov 28, 2017 10:11:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2017 10:11:44 GMT
Hi, i wana know. How many of u have heard of Deisn and are there members who are deist
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Jun 8, 2018 3:15:28 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 3:15:28 GMT
Hi, i wana know. How many of u have heard of Deisn and are there members who are deist
Thomas Paine, who coined the term ' United States of America' and an American revolutionary, was a deist. And so was Abraham Lincoln who was fond of Paine's works on deism.
There is a deistic element in my own spiritual methodology in that I give a lot of importance to logic and reasoning, but at the same time I also give importance to intuition as well.
I believe that intuition can enable one to cover many logical steps in a single or few steps.
Totally !! but how could u miss Thomas Jefferson .. If only US citizens knew more about teachings of the founding fathers in every aspect.
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Jun 8, 2018 3:24:33 GMT
Post by Elizabeth on Jun 8, 2018 3:24:33 GMT
It's in old testament as well. Daniel 12:2 2 And many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, Some to everlasting life, Some to shame and everlasting contempt.Is the same as NT 2 Timothy 4 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom. Revelation 20 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God, and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire. And revelation 20 says that the dead will be separated into life or hell. Also OT uses the old word "Sheol" over 30 times to refer where the dead go. And hell is considered the second death that the dead go to after judgement as revelation 20 says. With regards to heaven or hell . There is this beautiful egyptian concept . The guardians of heaven will ask u 2 questions that will determine whether u will get admitted in heaven . Q1 . Did u find joy in life ? Q2 Did u help find others joy in Life ? With regards to information presented its more of a information rather than something i concur with. Presenting perspectives that may be new to Arktos community. The last statement pretty much says it all . Same happened with Quran screwed the original meaning in translation to benefit power corrupts. Something happened with Quran translation? Some guy was telling me that it was written when the prophet was alive and preserved better than the bible Shrug
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:44:34 GMT
With regards to heaven or hell . There is this beautiful egyptian concept . The guardians of heaven will ask u 2 questions that will determine whether u will get admitted in heaven . Q1 . Did u find joy in life ? Q2 Did u help find others joy in Life ? With regards to information presented its more of a information rather than something i concur with. Presenting perspectives that may be new to Arktos community. The last statement pretty much says it all . Same happened with Quran screwed the original meaning in translation to benefit power corrupts. Something happened with Quran translation? Some guy was telling me that it was written when the prophet was alive and preserved better than the bible Yes it is preserved better than bible , but in its original arabic form . it cant be altered because its a rhythm more than the text . Easily memorized by tons of Muslims all over the world, even i cant forget some of its extended paragraphstill this day, having never recalled it for years. They cant change the original text so what they do is interpret according to what benefits them . Basically original meaning is intact but translating to other languages is messed up to an extent which is sooooo shocking ... there aint no bowing down 5 times a day .. no fasting etc .. those all exist but they are totally different in context ,, e.g annual pilgrimage was suppose to be an annual meeting to discuss and solve issues and etc ,, but they made muslim fools by presenting it as simply go to Mecca and circle the stone 7 times and all your sins are forgiven ,, what idiocy .. free range sheep
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:47:40 GMT
plus they add hadith ( saying of Muhammad) from which they can make anything to enforce ... those sayings have no authenticity and value like quran , but they make those fiction equally important which further messes it up
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Jun 8, 2018 4:58:36 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 4:58:36 GMT
There seem to be lots of Deistic definitions; some of which exclusively state God without religion, others specifying the importance of non-intervention for the definition of deism. In addition to that, there's discussion on the definition of God. Does this make deism an umbrella term of some sorts? yes they tored up deist in categories . the original definition is somewhat like . God exist but it doesnt matter .
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Jun 8, 2018 5:01:39 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2018 5:01:39 GMT
@unknown Are you still a deist? yeaahh !! what do u mean still ?
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Jun 8, 2018 10:55:54 GMT
Post by inferno on Jun 8, 2018 10:55:54 GMT
Hi, i wana know. How many of u have heard of Deisn and are there members who are deist I'm deist agnostic
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Post by ajay0 on Jun 9, 2018 11:24:54 GMT
An interesting saying of Benjamin Franklin regarding deism I came about ....
Some volumes against Deism fell into my hands ... they produced an effect precisely the reverse to what was intended by the writers; for the arguments of the Deists, which were cited in order to be refuted, appeared to me much more forcibly than the refutation itself; in a word, I soon became a thorough Deist. - Benjamin Franklin
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Jun 10, 2018 12:04:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2018 12:04:17 GMT
Hi, i wana know. How many of u have heard of Deisn and are there members who are deist I'm deist agnostic cant be both frogman
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Jun 10, 2018 14:19:59 GMT
Post by joustos on Jun 10, 2018 14:19:59 GMT
While the Wikipedia article on the history of deism is good, the question still remains: Is there any deist here?
One difference between deism and theism is (or can be posited to be): in deism, God (or, anyway, that which is divine) is impersonal and, therefore: (A) cannot be communicated with; (B) does not operate intentionally [to punish or to reward; or simply to act philanthropically]. Thus the God of deism is not the basis of the historical religions or of any possible religion.
A traditional deist, or one who intends to be a deist (rather than a theist),faces these questions: Why do you think that there is a God (an impersonal god)? Do you think that man has an immortal soul (which will be somewhere after death)?
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Jun 10, 2018 16:51:09 GMT
Post by inferno on Jun 10, 2018 16:51:09 GMT
cant be both frogman Because?
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Jun 12, 2018 11:19:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2018 11:19:07 GMT
cant be both frogman Because? Can u be an atheist and a muslim at the same time
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Jun 13, 2018 10:59:47 GMT
Post by inferno on Jun 13, 2018 10:59:47 GMT
Can u be an atheist and a muslim at the same time you mean a theistic agnostic?
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Jul 31, 2018 19:40:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 19:40:55 GMT
The major cultural religions of the world are perhaps the greatest trap for human consciousness ever devised and put to use as a means of controlling people. This has been corrupting the world and killing people for thousands of years.
The acceptance of the possibility of a better existence after death is an excuse to ignore the quality of life one is living in this existence, and is used as an excuse to participate in wickedness.
We of course see how this paradigm is being used against us today to create a major riff among the people of the earth as global leaders push for a new religious war pitting Islam against Christianity. No one can win if this battle is allowed to escalate
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Jul 31, 2018 19:45:32 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2018 19:45:32 GMT
It’s much easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled — such is the nature of confirmation bias and other psychological tools of manipulation. Breaking free of the ancient, historical ‘constant’ of mind control is an ongoing process of waking up out of a state of denial. Spiritual emergence and awakening involves a physiological break from the consensus social agreements of our planetary cultures.” ~ Karlos Kukuburra
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