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Post by joustos on Jul 31, 2020 22:15:24 GMT
An "other" religion [cultus, cult] is the cult of Kybele, who is also known as Magna Mater, the Great Mother. One of her epithets is "Mater Deum" [= Mater Deorum, Mother of the Gods],for only females beget others.... One good account: The Cult of Magna Mater, legalhistorysources.com/ChurchHistory2020/LectureOne/MagnaMater.htm
The priests ("galli") of this religion performed castration on themselves, which made me suspect some years ago that the Jewish circumcision is a less drastic form, a symbolic, castration. Now I have found an article that holds the same. To note, early circumcision (by Abraham etc.) was of adults, but then they imitated the Egyptian practice of infant circumcision. Anyway, all this is interesting to me as I am involved in exploring the pre-Semitic history and demography of the Middle East (religious, linguistic, etc.) Morteniz/Verit: Is Circumcision a Modified Ritual of Castration?
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Post by Elizabeth on Jul 31, 2020 22:43:57 GMT
The link wont open for me for some reason but never heard of this religion/cult before. Are all the "priests" castrated males I presume? I would have thought the high roles were only females.
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Post by joustos on Aug 1, 2020 14:06:41 GMT
The link wont open for me for some reason but never heard of this religion/cult before. Are all the "priests" castrated males I presume? I would have thought the high roles were only females. Sorry, but I am not versed in computer science.... A lot on Cybele or Kybele:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cybele
As in other ancient cults or "mysteries", probably originally the priesthood consisted of females, but then, as some wealth accumulated, the rituals or functions were taken over by males. Anyway, in Semitic cultures, women were eliminated from public affairs. Even in St. Peter's epistle, Woman is to Man, as Man is to God. // I do not know of ancient female castration in the Kybele cult, but we know of it in Islam. Any connection between the two religions? I am impressed that in Rome, a black stone was considered sacred or as representing Cybele, the goddess of the mountains. In Medina there is still the huge black stone that was taken over by the priesthood of the Islamic religion and is practically worshipped as if it were Allah. Before Islam, the Arabs had a polytheistic religion, which probably included the cult of Kybele. The Arabs even increased or perfected their language from Akkadian, that language in Mesopotamia which is largely Indo-European with a sprinkling of Canaanite (Semitic).
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Post by joustos on Aug 1, 2020 16:33:27 GMT
The above-referred black stone in Rome and, outstandingly, in Mecca/Medina (Saudi Arabia) has been associated with European statues and paintings of the "Black Madonna" [Our Lady], which puzzled me years ago.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna
In today's Rome there is a Christian church on the Capitoline Hill, where a temple to Juppiter used to be in the ancient Rome. It is dedicated to the Black Madonna, which I entered once:
en.wikipdia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_in_Ara_Coeli
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