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Post by jonbain on Jul 31, 2019 20:38:36 GMT
To be clear I am not looking for the most generally applicable moral statement, like "always be good", which is somewhat tautological anyway.
I will set the pace with the claim to follow, and the specific ethic you offer would have to be more vital than this:
Defending the ecosystem against the inevitable meteor impact.
And, I will argue that this is higher than your claim.
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Aug 1, 2019 0:42:22 GMT
The golden rule.
1. Its universal.
2. Its grounded in the cycles of natural law and abstract cycles; hence it is practical and contemplative.
3. Its recursive in nature, as in you repeat certain behaviors, thus forming a specific identity where certain emotions, thoughts and actions are repeated. This is further observed in the mirror neurons looping themselves in the brain.
4. Because it is contemplative and recursive you have to reflect on your own actions and thoughts considering you are forming the value system you will be judged by.
5. It changes the world by projecting the self. The values you seek to be treated by are projected onto others and looped back to you; hence not only your values but how you manifest those values effectively undergoes a constant adaptation. In these respects it allows for a projective moral evolution while still maintaining the fact that there is a constant moral law.
6. It sets the standard for man as a moral creature because of its reflective nature. Thus it is in the grounding of consciousness, which can be observed in the dillema of the Munchauseen trillema being the core contradiction of logic. It is the rational foundation for the concept of infinity.
7. Because it is reflective by nature, where certain patterns are repeated and connected, it is the only moral law which is good in itself (because it observes simultaneous self dependence and interdependence) but allows for evil behavior (as a lesser good). Good behavior maintains itself. Evil self destructs and cancels the loop. Thus it is it's own judgement system.
This makes the law completely objective and neutral.
8. The rule is completely subjective as well, in response to the subjective nature of the individual.
9. Etc., I will end it here.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 1, 2019 2:24:20 GMT
Treat others how you want to be treated
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 1, 2019 5:12:28 GMT
Fear God and keep his commandments.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 1, 2019 8:04:55 GMT
- behave yourself for helping to invent some weapons to protect the Earth; - be loyal and welcome to your community you working with; - never delay thinking before your decision to do something; - sacrifice yourself without any hesitations if it would be necessary; - the keenest minds are your lords, obey all their wishes; - do anything to uphold the belief that protection of the Earth will be successful; - don't pity of your pain unless the work will be finished... - (and so on)
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 1, 2019 10:31:31 GMT
- behave yourself for helping to invent some weapons to protect the Earth; - be loyal and welcome to your community you working with; - never delay thinking before your decision to do something; - sacrifice yourself without any hesitations if it would be necessary; - the keenest minds are your lords, obey all their wishes; - do anything to uphold the belief that protection of the Earth will be successful; - don't pity of your pain unless the work will be finished... - (and so on) explain the sacrifice part please ? don't afraid to put your life on a line when scientists ask you
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Post by fschmidt on Aug 1, 2019 18:07:07 GMT
Maximize the aggregate future contentment of your community. This happens to be equivalent to both maximizing their evolutionary success and to following God's will.
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Post by joustos on Aug 1, 2019 22:30:03 GMT
Beware of friendly strangers
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Post by DKTrav88 on Aug 1, 2019 23:21:12 GMT
Fear God and keep his commandments. God is not meant to be feared and he didnt lay out any commandments . ppl did like a word from God we need more rational people here. Southern people arent so bright He’s talking God in the Bible, obviously. No need for condescending remarks.
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Post by Elizabeth on Aug 2, 2019 1:30:54 GMT
Beware of friendly strangers That's true too! These days you can't trust anyone. :(
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Post by karl on Aug 2, 2019 8:35:45 GMT
Acquiring insight
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Aug 4, 2019 11:58:59 GMT
explain the sacrifice part please ? don't afraid to put your life on a line when scientists ask you Are you serious?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Aug 9, 2019 17:34:56 GMT
don't afraid to put your life on a line when scientists ask you Are you serious? Actually... no. I don't think I will do it. But if I would at least it would be done for the science sake.
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Post by jonbain on Aug 17, 2019 20:48:58 GMT
i did actually ask for a specific issue, not a general principle; so you all got wiped out by the hypothetical meteor that is heading towards earth
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