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Post by Elizabeth on Feb 26, 2019 5:29:25 GMT
...is it too egotistical? What do you fellow philosophers think?
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Feb 26, 2019 6:22:16 GMT
You mean selfishness or what?  |
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Mar 15, 2019 14:11:34 GMT
...is it too egotistical? What do you fellow philosophers think? I don't think so...self care is very important but so is care with others...until the realm we live in is healed and the greater problem is solved...self care is always a must... |
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 15, 2019 17:01:46 GMT
You mean selfishness or what? Yes. |
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Post by Lone Wanderer on Mar 15, 2019 17:13:36 GMT
You mean selfishness or what? Yes. I think if it becomes extreme or excessive, it would be a dangerous mentality. Because someone with excessive selfishness may justify anything for reaching their own goals. But normal self-care is necessary for survival and success in this world. There is no reason to ignore or sacrifice your own life and goals. |
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Post by kyloscythe91 on Mar 15, 2019 19:03:41 GMT
I don't see anything wrong with being wary, suspicious, cautious, and being careful...always love yourself and have self care guys...but people should be lovable...it's another form of a self care type of result...
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Post by PISTON1246 on Mar 19, 2019 21:01:35 GMT
I KEPT GASOLINE IN MY CAR TO MAINTAIN MY ABILITY TO DRIVE IT FAR ENOUGH TO GO WHERE I WANTED TO GO. I DID NOT AIM TO JUST PUT 100 MILES WORTH OF FUEL TO GO 100 MILES. I USUALLY FILL THE WHOLE TANK WHEN I HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY IT WITH.
ONE DAY SOMEONE SAID THEY WERE STRANDED AND NEEDED A RIDE HOME. SO I GAVE THEM A RIDE TO THEIR HOUSE AND WENT ON TO DO MY OWN THING. I HAD MORE THAN ENOUGH TO DRIVE FOR MYSELF THAT DAY.
SOMETIMES HELPING YOURSELF CAN HELP YOU HELP OTHER PEOPLE.
A DEAD PERSON CAN HELP NO ONE.
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Post by vicky on Mar 20, 2019 4:34:20 GMT
Very good question. Sure you can take care of yourself but when it comes to spirituality it's a whole different thing. In beginning of our Journey to God, we essentially have no Love for Him even though we think we do. What we then must do is develop our Love for Him. And of course, with Love comes Faith. How do we do this? By putting into practice what He taught. There are many paths to Him but the best path is the path of Love. Is to serve the needy/poor. To cloth, shelter or feed them. The joy you attain in such seva(selfless service) will give you much happiness and bring you closer to Him. People today are very selfish and make many excuses not to do the work God wants you to do. They change and interpret the words of God to their own liking and in a way where it'll benefit them.
What was taught is that we are all One. What does this mean? We are the Atma/soul. We are a part of the One(God). We are pure Bliss. Hence the scriptures teaches you to respect everyone and see them as God Himself. Remember this.
For you to fully understand the answer you must know about Karma. We all are bound by the Law of Karma. We each have good and bad Karma. Karma not only tends to your actions but also to what you think. Which is why it is said to give but never give with hate. People today think they can hide their thoughts from God. How foolish.
This is also why the scriptures stresses on sense control.
When you serve those in need with pure Love and not for personal gain(egotistical) you will acquire His grace. It is only His grace that can save you from your bad Karma. Some may think this is wrong because if you were to continually serve others without thinking of your own livelihood you are bound end up poor yourself. This is the wrong way to think and it means you do not have Faith in Him entirely. You're doing His work and you should feel proud thus. There shouldn't be any thought of money in the back of your mind, only pure Love. Leave everything to Him. He will take care of it. There's no need to go out of your way to serve everyone. Simply do what you can with what you are given.
Now that everything's explained I'll give you the answer.
What many do not know. When you serve others you acquire grace and good Karma in return. So in the end it amounts to you serving yourself which isn't egotistical because you're doing it out of pure Love. You're doing it for their sake and not for yours. No ego involved. Yes, it's all a matter of your state of mind when you give to others. But because such rewards cannot be seen, men have twisted His words to reward themselves with what can be seen(money).
So care for yourself, but do so selflessly. See God in everything and everyone. Nothing is yours, everything is His. Get rid of the ego and become One with Him. Hindus will easily accept this as how it is written that God is within us. Christians and Muslims will find it difficult to accept seeing as they think God is a separate entity from them. They've completely cut themselves off from their Mother(Sanatana Dharma) in order to satisfy their hunger for power.
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Post by Elizabeth on Mar 20, 2019 4:38:55 GMT
Plus, if you can't take care of yourself then who can you take care of?
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Post by xxxxxxxxx on Mar 20, 2019 22:27:56 GMT
...is it too egotistical? What do you fellow philosophers think? If "the self" is an extension of all other selves, considering we share a common image of Divine Reason (the soul) in which we measure reality through the senses, intuition, intellect, then to take care of oneself is to take care of others. To take care of other's is dually to take care of oneself.
The cross from "self-care" to "vanity" is grounded spending too much time:
Creating a false image; ie placing emphasis on style or make-up at the expense of working on the interior self. Our physical appearance is a reflection of who we are on the inside, as the body is an extension of the mind. The mind in turn is also affected by the nature of the body (ie if one is in bad health, their mind suffers as well). The nature of "self-care" requires a degree of reflection on not just one's identity, such as their thought's and feelings, but effectively is grounding in "reflection".
Reflection is the replication of certain thoughts or feelings. For example if I think about exercise enough, the thought replicates itself into a physical action, which in turn replicates into a habit and a certain "structure" within the self is formed. This applies also to the nature of empathy; practicing seeing the world from the context of the person that exists through it, practicing in conversation sharing the same thoughts/feelings (when possible), etc. Empathy is grounded in reflection, reflection is grounded in the replication of common bonds...whether they be something simple such as an emotion or "working together" through an experience.
This stems towards the problem of failing to see that other's exist through yourself by extension; hence self-care always requires maintaining a "bond" with those one is in contact with. You must have a bond, a sense of "unity" between your thoughts/actions/feelings with yourself first. All confusion arises from disunity, a "sense" of seperation, which often times in more internal than external.
This "bond" is necessitated by "empathy" (seeing and feeling through the eye's of other's), spending time with family/friends/loved ones as well as complete strangers who have no one, and realizing that "self-care" is fundamentally determined by the time one place's into it; hence the nature of "self-care" is about maintianing a balanced "spending" of time...ie; spend time alone and with other's and make sure you have time for both.
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Post by Polaris on Apr 7, 2019 22:40:09 GMT
The flight attendant always instructs us to put our oxygen mask on before helping the others.
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Post by Polaris on Sept 16, 2019 16:26:39 GMT
on the plane they instruct us that in cases of (whatever), oxygen masks will drop automatically. put the oxygen mask over your (own) mouth before assisting the others.
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Post by techiyew on Sept 18, 2019 15:13:13 GMT
...is it too egotistical? What do you fellow philosophers think? Hey, for this argument i'll make the assumption that we are talking about taking care of one's own body with the end of helping it work better, be healthier and more beautiful. An easy way for me to view the global picture of a concept is to analyze it's opposite side, how about self detriment, having bad eating habits, not working on your own mental hygiene, disregard your own living space, become addicted substances etc... For all i see here indulging in one set of activities or the other doesn't have a particular nature to it, as for the egotistical part this could be the nature of the motif for why you could indulge into self care or self depreciation. I could decide not to work, be lazy and self destructive, because i want to prove something, which would be an egotistical reason. Or at the same time i can leave people behind to take care of my own image to impress another group of people, which can also be egotistical. But as it was mention in other posts, taking care of your body is most likely to be done for the right reasons, and that would be to treat yourself with respect and love. And there is nothing wrong with that at least on my perspective |
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 18, 2019 15:48:05 GMT
You mean selfishness or what? Yes. Selfishness is self-destructive. For example, if you don't work for a unionized force, you have to negotiate Man Against Millionaire. Second, self-obsession will turn you into a zombie. You'll be miserable, but too conceited to admit it. |
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Post by thesageofmainstreet on Sept 18, 2019 15:48:45 GMT
You mean selfishness or what? Yes. |
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