Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
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Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Nov 27, 2018 22:50:25 GMT
Calexit is an organization which desires that California, the state, should secede from the United States and become its own country. At its height I remember that one third of California's population supported this secession movement. On top of this in the United States there are other secession movements in Alaska, Hawaii, the Pacific Northwest, New England, Vermont, New Hampshire, Texas, Puerto Rico, and in the former Confederate States of America. What do all of you think of Calexit specifically and secession movements generally?
I am in full support of California seceding from the USA. I think that the United States will be better off without California and if the majority of the population ever got to the point where it wanted to leave I think as a matter of freedom it should be allowed to go. Any union that has to be held together by force of arms is no union worth preserving. The same opinion goes for the other secession movements except for the one in the south, not because I don't support the south's right to secede, but because the group advocating for it the League of the South is really, REALLY racist and the last thing I would want is for them to gain power. Really a saner southern nationalist group should be formed advocating for southern independence (if one were formed I'd bet southerners would flock to it in droves.)
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Dec 9, 2018 20:08:03 GMT
It's also called as irredentism - a movement inside a country to become its own country.
But I can't guess the point. For why?
If I would go to an isolated island, or I would fly to an abandoned planet nor I, nor my friends wouldn't become happy there. How our hierarchy would be built? If there would be no hierarchy then how it would be organized? There are tons of questions without any good answers to not start even thinking about such a trip. So, I'd say the same about any 'countrisations'. If I borrow a gun to protect myself into street dealing, will I become more protected? As the first answer - yes. I will. My gun allows me to feel safe and to use it if it would be necessary. But If I applied it in some situation, it wouldn't mean the situation had been ended completely. One problem raises another one. There's no way to do something to stop everything else. A man is an organism which is not going to stop in something 4ever; it continues to do something different, 'cause it's natural. The biologists call it 'the widering or the area of living'. If a small state becomes a country, sooner it will require more and more resources, more food, more transport, municipal members, etc - so it will become more and more wider.
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Post by Elizabeth on Dec 9, 2018 20:15:01 GMT
I like and agree with what Clovis said. If they want to leave then they can leave. It's up to them. If they're being forced into something they don't want then it's like being under a king or a tyrant and there's no free will. Being in California, it matters little to me if it is part of the US or not. I can move to another US state if it decides to leave or leave with it. So it matters little to me Shrug
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