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Post by just10sp on Nov 4, 2018 20:39:00 GMT
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 15:13:08 GMT
Eugene 2.0 did you know there are some cool stuff on earth and other planets that do not follow rules! Like there's gravity. And we know that if you throw anything or drop anything it'll go down not up right? But there are places on earth where gravity doesn't work! Things will go up! And there's a cool planet far away that rains A LOT. Like nonstop I think and it isn't even water. It is glass! And not only does it not rain down as gravity would but rains sideways! And another planet that's like half freezing always (like ice age or worse) and the other half hot (like as if it's hell). if it's half a gas planet or what. (There's videos on all this in science section if you haven't seen) But all these things are against the normal laws but it happens daily. Just crazy! There are plenty ad hoc cases in this world. It's not a secret, but it doesn't prove that there's God. Science is God. If there are some strange things happen, then it is a will of scientists to do it. They can control everything including our minds, and hearts. The scientists have been already controlling us, and it is a big honor to step into their lair, and become one of Gods.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 6, 2018 16:35:54 GMT
I already did above Oh, yeah? Then the world must have seen it! Nobody believes in God. There are people who claim that they believe in God. I don't believe them. Maybe there was God, but God is no more. He escaped. He said that He was completely tired of all those 'believers'. God hates believers most of all. God loves sinners. What religion is that?
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 16:58:34 GMT
Oh, yeah? Then the world must have seen it! Nobody believes in God. There are people who claim that they believe in God. I don't believe them. Maybe there was God, but God is no more. He escaped. He said that He was completely tired of all those 'believers'. God hates believers most of all. God loves sinners. What religion is that? It's the "True Christians Followers".
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 6, 2018 17:00:59 GMT
It's the "True Christians Followers". I don’t think so
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Post by just10sp on Nov 6, 2018 17:57:40 GMT
I already did above Oh, yeah? Then the world must have seen it! Nobody believes in God. There are people who claim that they believe in God. I don't believe them. Maybe there was God, but God is no more. He escaped. He said that He was completely tired of all those 'believers'. God hates believers most of all. God loves sinners. I actually really like your responses here, the only thing is I was pretending you were talking about Satan, who is just as real as God. Did you know the United States was formed by people who claimed to see the Mighty Arm of God, The Declaration of Independence, and the Constitutional Laws? US begun in 1776, unfortunately so did Illuminati, Illuminati lead people so astray people think that US was formed by them, sad really, but Satan really has deceived the world.. There is good news in the stars, Satan’s head begins to be crushed in around 2018-2021, Jupiter is joining with Virgo again which only happens every 400 years which means if Christ does return, now would be a very likely time! A third of the stars a sweeper around by the twisted serpent, and hurled to earth, there should be another huge meteorite shower coming around this time too, and that given the projectile of the asteroid, it will never pass by Earth again. This is symbolic for Satan’s influence will be gone on Earth, forever. this is explained in Revelation 12
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 18:52:12 GMT
It's the "True Christians Followers". I don’t think so I don't think either.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 19:04:12 GMT
Oh, yeah? Then the world must have seen it! Nobody believes in God. There are people who claim that they believe in God. I don't believe them. Maybe there was God, but God is no more. He escaped. He said that He was completely tired of all those 'believers'. God hates believers most of all. God loves sinners. I actually really like your responses here, the only thing is I was pretending you were talking about Satan, who is just as real as God. Did you know the United States was formed by people who claimed to see the Mighty Arm of God, The Declaration of Independence, and the Constitutional Laws? US begun in 1776, unfortunately so did Illuminati, Illuminati lead people so astray people think that US was formed by them, really, but Satan really has deceived the world.. There is good news in the stars, Satan’s head begins to be crushed in around 2018-2021, Jupiter is joining with Virgo again which only happens every 400 years which means if Christ does return, now would be a very likely time! A third of the stars a sweeper around by the twisted serpent, and hurled to earth, there should be another huge meteorite shower coming around this time too, and that given the projectile of the asteroid, it will never pass by Earth again. This is symbolic for Satan’s influence will be gone on Earth, forever. this is explained in Revelation 12 Hmm... this is really interesting. Thank you for your enlightening me. Well, if this is so, I think, that there's a more plain way. Firstly, we need to ask some question to this so-called "Satan": 1) Let him show us his powers? If he would have started all those "Houdini's toying" we would have thrown him to sharks as launch. 2) Solve us Ramunajan's problem (The sum of a sequence of natural numbers equals to -1/12)! I don't think he'd be able to. 3) Win in Chess with quantum comp! He'll lose. 4) Bring back dinosaurs again! He won't. Nobody won't. And also he could be questioned and I'm sure he would loose as all the losers. The real Satan is already here. His name is greed.
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Post by just10sp on Nov 6, 2018 20:20:58 GMT
I actually really like your responses here, the only thing is I was pretending you were talking about Satan, who is just as real as God. Did you know the United States was formed by people who claimed to see the Mighty Arm of God, The Declaration of Independence, and the Constitutional Laws? US begun in 1776, unfortunately so did Illuminati, Illuminati lead people so astray people think that US was formed by them, really, but Satan really has deceived the world.. There is good news in the stars, Satan’s head begins to be crushed in around 2018-2021, Jupiter is joining with Virgo again which only happens every 400 years which means if Christ does return, now would be a very likely time! A third of the stars a sweeper around by the twisted serpent, and hurled to earth, there should be another huge meteorite shower coming around this time too, and that given the projectile of the asteroid, it will never pass by Earth again. This is symbolic for Satan’s influence will be gone on Earth, forever. this is explained in Revelation 12 Hmm... this is really interesting. Thank you for your enlightening me. Well, if this is so, I think, that there's a more plain way. Firstly, we need to ask some question to this so-called "Satan": 1) Let him show us his powers? If he would have started all those "Houdini's toying" we would have thrown him to sharks as launch. 2) Solve us Ramunajan's problem (The sum of a sequence of natural numbers equals to -1/12)! I don't think he'd be able to. 3) Win in Chess with quantum comp! He'll lose. 4) Bring back dinosaurs again! He won't. Nobody won't. And also he could be questioned and I'm sure he would loose as all the losers. The real Satan is already here. His name is greed. Yes, the real culprit of humanity is our own selfish greed and desire to rival our neighbour. Wall street. However, my friend, there are many a things you do not know. You do not believe in magic, I am brave in the sense that although my abilities have been taken from me, I am weak in the same way I am strong. I am strong because I act in spite of being weak. You are unaware of the psychic gland, the third eye. Your enthusiasm and spirit are always good and you a are a light to the people. Your strive for knowledge enlightens anyone who is unaware of the things you have put serious time in, even if not lately. Satan is actually very powerful, he is an angel, which means he lives in the sky, we humans are here on Earth. Not only are angels far more advanced in technology and knowledge, they are much more adept at the usage of the mind. I have spoken to people haunted by demons and they are quite literally hearing voices that are not their own. Given that the pharmaceuticals of the world are corrupt, so are their diagnoses. These people are brought to their knees, forced to bow to these false and defiant angels who speak to them telepathically. I am only aware of these things because I myself was able to develop some psychic abilities until I was dragged to the hospital and drugged until my abilities had left me. The world is more evil than you know! I only speak of them rarely because people are trained to believe that in no way ever could any human develop abilities above the norm. Clairvoyance, clairsentience, and clairaudience is real. When dealing with these demon infested humans I could suddenly feel great striking pains throughout my body, however I did not bow. I put my faith in Christ, and I will continue to do so. I speak to many clairvoyant people, and unlike you, I have 0 trace of doubt in my mind that it is VERY real and VERY true. Elizabeth is my only go-to for this, she although she may not share, and please don't ask, had a dream where her horse ran away. She also often has dreams unlike many people. I don't wish to involve her but she knew her horse would come back and even though the father of her was skeptical, Elizabeth knew because she had insight into the future. Like Jesus and the apostles and messengers of Satan. In fact that is the all-seeing-eye, the symbol of the illuminati and the antichrist. There is a freemasonic law that anyone who learns the secret and tells it must be put to death, or have their abilities taken away so that no one will believe them. You sir are not even a lucid dreamer, this is just the start of psychic abilities. Out of body travel comes next, yes, you can literally walk through walls while in spirit as the Yogis taught. This takes time my friend. Just have faith in good even though your faith in God is tested. I know you believe in good. Satan is coming, and he is very mad, because he will be dropped off on Earth. He comes at the birth of the next Messiah and plans to eat the newborn infant alive. He is very telepathic and his telekinesis abilities are above that of the norm. Bel is the ruler of Babylon (America), and so the world is very lead astray in these times. WW1 and WW2, although you do not know, was a war amongst humans, similar to the WTC terrorist attack. If the germans who lost won, the world would be even more enslaved than it already is. Hitler survived many bombings and assassination attempts, and many times it is reported that he heard a voice telling him where to go or where to move before the bomb had exploded. This is simply a more advanced extra-terrestrial lifeform (angel) who's minds are more advanced and they have abilities most humans never know to develop. I love your hate for Satan, although it is misdirected at God. God often speaks to people though his angels who then send telegraphic videos to his elect ones, in other words they receive visions of insight while awake, or dreams whilst asleep. Satan will fail because there will be angels their who take the newborn baby into the sky (heaven) and he will be away for a little while. He will return as Mighty God, Wonderful Counsellor, Prince of Peace, and Everlasting King, and the government will be on his shoulders. Before he returns from God and His Throne, Satan will rage war against all who hold true to the testimony of Jesus. Yes he will be fighting humans, with lies, deceit, and evil angelic magic. However, an angel will appear with a gold chain, which is symbolic as the chain will bound him into the abyss of Earth for 1,000 years, so that Earth may return into a God-loving Kingdom. Then Satan will be released, he will attempt once more to deceive the nations and will gather an army. But fire will come from the Heavens and it will devour him and his armor. His spirit will then be sent to Hell where he will be tormented day and night, forever and ever. People who are psychic are much more aware of the truth of the gospel of Christ than those who are not, but non psychic people are never believing ;p Here's some stuff you may have never heard. This is the true Sumerian origin of all mythology, whether Greek, roman, Assyrian, Babylonian. Immanuel is a very important name, although people do not know it. It has many meanings besides "God is with us." There is a God name U, a God named El, and a God named Anu, and a God named Ea. They live on a nearby planet. Anu is number 60, Ea is number 40, Marduk who is the heir of Anu, his number is 10 and 1, he was also given 50 (which is the number of Enlil, who became Lucifer, who became Satan) Enlil means Lord of Air, the Bible calls Satan Prince of the Air. Manu is an incarnation of Vishnu. Manu can also mean hand, symbolic for number 5. Each hand had a letter M on it, if not it has VI and IV, roman numbers for 6 and 4. Regardless 6+4=10 or 5+5=10. There are 64 codeines in Human DNA. IM Manual or Im Annual, because like Jesus he is 'the book' the way, the manual of life and living, and he worships His Father annually. Please do not assume I am lying, I am your dear friend, and I hope not to lead you astray! Consider this.. alien knowledge I am greatly unaware what these numbers mean, I know 91 is "who contains the entire universe." As above so below, 10 is the base 10 unit system. The child known as Immanuel is born with an Iron Rod, there are many Gods who has this Rod before him, Utu (Shamash), Ninhurta, Inanna, it is usually a 1 and a 0, similar to Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, Beginning and the End, however this rod he is given is very special and different than the rest. It is the sign of his Total Authority, from His Father, and from his Kingdom, that he left in order to save Earth. It is his Kingship, his Royalty, his inheritance as The Son of God. God himself incarnated as man. It looks similar in appearance to Ninhurta's Sharur which means Smasher of Thousands. His voice will be more effective than millions as well. But different than other Gods, Immanuel is King of the Gods, God of Gods, Lord of Lords, and King of Kings. I expect to receive a lot of flack for this post. Haha.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 20:51:35 GMT
Hmm... this is really interesting. Thank you for your enlightening me. Well, if this is so, I think, that there's a more plain way. Firstly, we need to ask some question to this so-called "Satan": 1) Let him show us his powers? If he would have started all those "Houdini's toying" we would have thrown him to sharks as launch. 2) Solve us Ramunajan's problem (The sum of a sequence of natural numbers equals to -1/12)! I don't think he'd be able to. 3) Win in Chess with quantum comp! He'll lose. 4) Bring back dinosaurs again! He won't. Nobody won't. And also he could be questioned and I'm sure he would loose as all the losers. The real Satan is already here. His name is greed. Yes, the real culprit of humanity is our own selfish greed and desire to rival our neighbour. Wall street. However, my friend, there are many a things you do not know. You do not believe in magic, I am brave in the sense that although my abilities have been taken from me, I am weak in the same way I am strong. I am strong because I act in spite of being weak. You are unaware of the psychic gland, the third eye. Your enthusiasm and spirit are always good and you a are a light to the people. Your strive for knowledge enlightens anyone who is unaware of the things you have put serious time in, even if not lately. Satan is actually very powerful, he is an angel, which means he lives in the sky, we humans are here on Earth. Not only are angels far more advanced in technology and knowledge, they are much more adept at the usage of the mind. I have spoken to people haunted by demons and they are quite literally hearing voices that are not their own. Given that the pharmaceuticals of the world are corrupt, so are their diagnoses. These people are brought to their knees, forced to bow to these false and defiant angels who speak to them telepathically. I am only aware of these things because I myself was able to develop some psychic abilities until I was dragged to the hospital and drugged until my abilities had left me. The world is more evil than you know! I only speak of them rarely because people are trained to believe that in no way ever could any human develop abilities above the norm. Clairvoyance, clairsentience, and clairaudience is real. When dealing with these demon infested humans I could suddenly feel great striking pains throughout my body, however I did not bow. I put my faith in Christ, and I will continue to do so. I speak to many clairvoyant people, and unlike you, I have 0 trace of doubt in my mind that it is VERY real and VERY true. Elizabeth is my only go-to for this, she although she may not share, and please don't ask, had a dream where her horse ran away. She also often has dreams unlike many people. I don't wish to involve her but she knew her horse would come back and even though the father of her was skeptical, Elizabeth knew because she had insight into the future. Like Jesus and the apostles and messengers of Satan. In fact that is the all-seeing-eye, the symbol of the illuminati and the antichrist. There is a freemasonic law that anyone who learns the secret and tells it must be put to death, or have their abilities taken away so that no one will believe them. You sir are not even a lucid dreamer, this is just the start of psychic abilities. Out of body travel comes next, yes, you can literally walk through walls while in spirit as the Yogis taught. This takes time my friend. Just have faith in good even though your faith in God is tested. I know you believe in good. Satan is coming, and he is very mad, because he will be dropped off on Earth. He comes at the birth of the next Messiah and plans to eat the newborn infant alive. He is very telepathic and his telekinesis abilities are above that of the norm. Bel is the ruler of Babylon (America), and so the world is very lead astray in these times. WW1 and WW2, although you do not know, was a war amongst humans, similar to the WTC terrorist attack. If the germans who lost won, the world would be even more enslaved than it already is. Hitler survived many bombings and assassination attempts, and many times it is reported that he heard a voice telling him where to go or where to move before the bomb had exploded. This is simply a more advanced extra-terrestrial lifeform (angel) who's minds are more advanced and they have abilities most humans never know to develop. I love your hate for Satan, although it is misdirected at God. God often speaks to people though his angels who then send telegraphic videos to his elect ones, in other words they receive visions of insight while awake, or dreams whilst asleep. Satan will fail because there will be angels their who take the newborn baby into the sky (heaven) and he will be away for a little while. He will return as Mighty God, Wonderful Counsellor, Prince of Peace, and Everlasting King, and the government will be on his shoulders. Before he returns from God and His Throne, Satan will rage war against all who hold true to the testimony of Jesus. Yes he will be fighting humans, with lies, deceit, and evil angelic magic. However, an angel will appear with a gold chain, which is symbolic as the chain will bound him into the abyss of Earth for 1,000 years, so that Earth may return into a God-loving Kingdom. Then Satan will be released, he will attempt once more to deceive the nations and will gather an army. But fire will come from the Heavens and it will devour him and his armor. His spirit will then be sent to Hell where he will be tormented day and night, forever and ever. People who are psychic are much more aware of the truth of the gospel of Christ than those who are not, but non psychic people are never believing ;p Here's some stuff you may have never heard. This is the true Sumerian origin of all mythology, whether Greek, roman, Assyrian, Babylonian. Immanuel is a very important name, although people do not know it. It has many meanings besides "God is with us." There is a God name U, a God named El, and a God named Anu, and a God named Ea. They live on a nearby planet. Anu is number 60, Ea is number 40, Marduk who is the heir of Anu, his number is 10 and 1, he was also given 50 (which is the number of Enlil, who became Lucifer, who became Satan) Enlil means Lord of Air, the Bible calls Satan Prince of the Air. Manu is an incarnation of Vishnu. Manu can also mean hand, symbolic for number 5. Each hand had a letter M on it, if not it has VI and IV, roman numbers for 6 and 4. Regardless 6+4=10 or 5+5=10. There are 64 codeines in Human DNA. IM Manual or Im Annual, because like Jesus he is 'the book' the way, the manual of life and living, and he worships His Father annually. Please do not assume I am lying, I am your dear friend, and I hope not to lead you astray! Consider this.. alien knowledge I am greatly unaware what these numbers mean, I know 91 is "who contains the entire universe." As above so below, 10 is the base 10 unit system. The child known as Immanuel is born with an Iron Rod, there are many Gods who has this Rod before him, Utu (Shamash), Ninhurta, Inanna, it is usually a 1 and a 0, similar to Alpha and Omega, the First and the Last, Beginning and the End, however this rod he is given is very special and different than the rest. It is the sign of his Total Authority, from His Father, and from his Kingdom, that he left in order to save Earth. It is his Kingship, his Royalty, his inheritance as The Son of God. God himself incarnated as man. It looks similar in appearance to Ninhurta's Sharur which means Smasher of Thousands. His voice will be more effective than millions as well. But different than other Gods, Immanuel is King of the Gods, God of Gods, Lord of Lords, and King of Kings. I expect to receive a lot of flack for this post. Haha. Oh! Really thanks to you about this all large explanation. Very informative. If you don't mind I'll answer on this more detailed later. Briefly, I wanted to say that it's considered that there are plenty of the illuminati symbols. Personally, I don't really care. I think that it's some kind of mania of the illuminati to draw their gibberish everywhere. It's a way of a child, not of a sane grown-up. For me, there's no the illuminati. I think that they post all those symbols elsewhere, because of market politics as the brands (the labels, etc.) All those McDumbdses, StrawBuckses, Wall-Marshes, etc - all those amusement advertising is trash and garbage. I don't take it seriously. There's a director; I thought he's a good one, but he married on a jewish women. I'm talking about John Carpenter, and his "They Live" (1989) that shows the same as I said.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 7, 2018 9:50:05 GMT
It's the "True Christians Followers". I don’t think so You know, I do believe in God. I think that without God we would have nothing. It's His will gives us powers to do something. I even have my personal proof of existence of God. It's short, but I think it's a solid one. First of all, I mean that there's Christian God. I think that if there were no Christ we wouldn't have a chance to have intentions to good life; we would continuously believe in everything as eternity and a circle, but not a straight line. Christ gave us not only Bible, but he gave us an ability to believe in the future, in something good at the end. He shared a gift to us - a gift to hope and to believe in good. Also, I wanted to say that your tactics to involve people in Christianity seemed to me very poor. It's not good to just spread for everyone dozens of quotes from Bible. Someone needs just to talks, he wants to hear a real human to talk with him. Let's look an example, a man committing a suicide because of broken love is standing on a bridge preparing to his death, and you tell him: "Hey, bro! I give you 1 million dollars, just get away from this place"; and a desperate person might say "All right! That's what I wanted the most!". If you think that the person would answer on this question in this manner, then your thoughts would be completely wrong. People want to receive answers on their core questions, or their more deep and honest questions in their hearts. How to get a million, or how to teach himself to pilot a plane - are not answers on this types of question; they are from really different area. Core questions come from their hearts, so you need to speak with people firstly, not with their minds and wishes firstly. If you think that Bible is nothing, but a cold water in the hot summer, then your circle of view is the narrowest one. Think wider, DKTrav.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 7, 2018 17:02:35 GMT
I don’t think so You know, I do believe in God. I think that without God we would have nothing. It's His will gives us powers to do something. I even have my personal proof of existence of God. It's short, but I think it's a solid one. First of all, I mean that there's Christian God. I think that if there were no Christ we wouldn't have a chance to have intentions to good life; we would continuously believe in everything as eternity and a circle, but not a straight line. Christ gave us not only Bible, but he gave us an ability to believe in the future, in something good at the end. He shared a gift to us - a gift to hope and to believe in good. Also, I wanted to say that your tactics to involve people in Christianity seemed to me very poor. It's not good to just spread for everyone dozens of quotes from Bible. Someone needs just to talks, he wants to hear a real human to talk with him. Let's look an example, a man committing a suicide because of broken love is standing on a bridge preparing to his death, and you tell him: "Hey, bro! I give you 1 million dollars, just get away from this place"; and a desperate person might say "All right! That's what I wanted the most!". If you think that the person would answer on this question in this manner, then your thoughts would be completely wrong. People want to receive answers on their core questions, or their more deep and honest questions in their hearts. How to get a million, or how to teach himself to pilot a plane - are not answers on this types of question; they are from really different area. Core questions come from their hearts, so you need to speak with people firstly, not with their minds and wishes firstly. If you think that Bible is nothing, but a cold water in the hot summer, then your circle of view is the narrowest one. Think wider, DKTrav. I don’t want people to take my word for it, I want them to read the Bible themselves, that’s why I show them what it says. I don’t want them to trust me for truth because the Bible says not to put your trust in men, but in God only. Spreading God’s word isn’t about convincing people it’s true, people will make that choice on their own like I did. I didn’t sit down with someone and have them explain the Bible to me, I read it myself and had other experiences; I prayed to God out loud and with all sincerity from my heart and asked Him to show me the truth if He was real, and He lead me not to the Quran, not to the Talmud, not to Hinduism, not to Buddhism, not to paganism, not to the Catholic or Orthodox Church, not to a particular denomination, but straight to the Bible. I’m not a keyboard warrior either. Typing up essays is not my thing. I’d rather talk to people in person, I’m much better at that. I’m only here because someone wants me here, I would have shook the dust from my feet long ago if that person didn’t want me here.
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Post by Διαμονδ on Nov 7, 2018 17:48:39 GMT
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 7, 2018 22:37:09 GMT
You know, I do believe in God. I think that without God we would have nothing. It's His will gives us powers to do something. I even have my personal proof of existence of God. It's short, but I think it's a solid one. First of all, I mean that there's Christian God. I think that if there were no Christ we wouldn't have a chance to have intentions to good life; we would continuously believe in everything as eternity and a circle, but not a straight line. Christ gave us not only Bible, but he gave us an ability to believe in the future, in something good at the end. He shared a gift to us - a gift to hope and to believe in good. Also, I wanted to say that your tactics to involve people in Christianity seemed to me very poor. It's not good to just spread for everyone dozens of quotes from Bible. Someone needs just to talks, he wants to hear a real human to talk with him. Let's look an example, a man committing a suicide because of broken love is standing on a bridge preparing to his death, and you tell him: "Hey, bro! I give you 1 million dollars, just get away from this place"; and a desperate person might say "All right! That's what I wanted the most!". If you think that the person would answer on this question in this manner, then your thoughts would be completely wrong. People want to receive answers on their core questions, or their more deep and honest questions in their hearts. How to get a million, or how to teach himself to pilot a plane - are not answers on this types of question; they are from really different area. Core questions come from their hearts, so you need to speak with people firstly, not with their minds and wishes firstly. If you think that Bible is nothing, but a cold water in the hot summer, then your circle of view is the narrowest one. Think wider, DKTrav. I don’t want people to take my word for it, I want them to read the Bible themselves, that’s why I show them what it says. I don’t want them to trust me for truth because the Bible says not to put your trust in men, but in God only. Spreading God’s word isn’t about convincing people it’s true, people will make that choice on their own like I did. I didn’t sit down with someone and have them explain the Bible to me, I read it myself and had other experiences; I prayed to God out loud and with all sincerity from my heart and asked Him to show me the truth if He was real, and He lead me not to the Quran, not to the Talmud, not to Hinduism, not to Buddhism, not to paganism, not to the Catholic or Orthodox Church, not to a particular denomination, but straight to the Bible. I’m not a keyboard warrior either. Typing up essays is not my thing. I’d rather talk to people in person, I’m much better at that. I’m only here because someone wants me here, I would have shook the dust from my feet long ago if that person didn’t want me here. Thank you for an honest answer. I knew you're a man to be believed. Talking with people is really true way. One of my friends said me that we've lost our ability of hearing each other. He said: "You know 'to understand someone' means 'to hear someone', and vice versa". I didn't know that, but it was an interesting for me because of the reason of the word "sense" that the one uses everywhere without its true image many times. Yeah, to hear someone is used to be useful, and come in handy more than to nod formally. But Bible is not a tool. Yes, I agree that Bible is important and we have to hear Christ's words to understand it, and, however, it's not a decision - to give someone Bible saying "Read it, or die!" Someone needs in plain words. I can even imagine that this person might never be a Bible reader; a person can be discussing Bible without reading it forever. It's not necessary for everyone to read Bible, because if you haven't read a quote from it, you are not going to hell for that. Bible is for true readers, not for everyone. Many people don't understand it. I'm sure that if someone would force another one to read Bible, than the one would escape from such aggression as soon as possible. What would it be, if one day we would drr a war of the Bible men which were trying to force everyone to read Bible, and the other ones which didn't want to do it? You can't make someone to read Bible. I think that the best strategy for someone to read Bible - is to never talk about it. Never. A person must be interesting in your knowledge, or your encourage, or your sport ranks, or your bill, etc, and this person will ask you one day: "What made you to be such a good person as you are?", and a Bible man will answer - Bible. An impressed person will continue: "But, it wasn't Bible, it was you, wasn't it?", and the Bible man will say: "No, it was Bible, I was just a follower of Bible". The impressed person said further: "Why then many other Bible readers are not so good as you?". The Bible man will answer: "Because God made a part of people to be happy, and the other ones - to suffer". The impressed person started to be unimpressed and would say: "What a god is this? He made a part of people to suffer?! And why one part of Bible readers are happy, while the rest ones are unhappy?". The Bible man would keep silence for a while, and then he would answer with a "You know, just read Bible".
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 8, 2018 2:44:47 GMT
I don’t want people to take my word for it, I want them to read the Bible themselves, that’s why I show them what it says. I don’t want them to trust me for truth because the Bible says not to put your trust in men, but in God only. Spreading God’s word isn’t about convincing people it’s true, people will make that choice on their own like I did. I didn’t sit down with someone and have them explain the Bible to me, I read it myself and had other experiences; I prayed to God out loud and with all sincerity from my heart and asked Him to show me the truth if He was real, and He lead me not to the Quran, not to the Talmud, not to Hinduism, not to Buddhism, not to paganism, not to the Catholic or Orthodox Church, not to a particular denomination, but straight to the Bible. I’m not a keyboard warrior either. Typing up essays is not my thing. I’d rather talk to people in person, I’m much better at that. I’m only here because someone wants me here, I would have shook the dust from my feet long ago if that person didn’t want me here. Thank you for an honest answer. I knew you're a man to be believed. Talking with people is really true way. One of my friends said me that we've lost our ability of hearing each other. He said: "You know 'to understand someone' means 'to hear someone', and vice versa". I didn't know that, but it was an interesting for me because of the reason of the word "sense" that the one uses everywhere without its true image many times. Yeah, to hear someone is used to be useful, and come in handy more than to nod formally. But Bible is not a tool. Yes, I agree that Bible is important and we have to hear Christ's words to understand it, and, however, it's not a decision - to give someone Bible saying "Read it, or die!" Someone needs in plain words. I can even imagine that this person might never be a Bible reader; a person can be discussing Bible without reading it forever. It's not necessary for everyone to read Bible, because if you haven't read a quote from it, you are not going to hell for that. Bible is for true readers, not for everyone. Many people don't understand it. I'm sure that if someone would force another one to read Bible, than the one would escape from such aggression as soon as possible. What would it be, if one day we would drr a war of the Bible men which were trying to force everyone to read Bible, and the other ones which didn't want to do it? You can't make someone to read Bible. I think that the best strategy for someone to read Bible - is to never talk about it. Never. A person must be interesting in your knowledge, or your encourage, or your sport ranks, or your bill, etc, and this person will ask you one day: "What made you to be such a good person as you are?", and a Bible man will answer - Bible. An impressed person will continue: "But, it wasn't Bible, it was you, wasn't it?", and the Bible man will say: "No, it was Bible, I was just a follower of Bible". The impressed person said further: "Why then many other Bible readers are not so good as you?". The Bible man will answer: "Because God made a part of people to be happy, and the other ones - to suffer". The impressed person started to be unimpressed and would say: "What a god is this? He made a part of people to suffer?! And why one part of Bible readers are happy, while the rest ones are unhappy?". The Bible man would keep silence for a while, and then he would answer with a : "You know, just read Bible". You or others might get on me for this as they have already because I quote the Bible(though we are in the Christianity section), but as far as hearing goes, the Bible says "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God." whereas it says "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent?" The Bible also says that many people will hear God's word and not understand it. The Bible never tells us to force people to hear it, but it does say that if people do not receive you(want to hear you preach it) then move on, which I believe I have done as far as arktos goes unless someone wants to talk about the Bible, then I'm here to talk with them about it. There's no way I can force anyone to do anything from a behind a keyboard and computer screen and there's no way I would force someone in person to listen to me tell them about the Bible; one of my roommates for example does not like to talk about the Bible at all, muchless hear anything about it, his attitude and mood changes completely if you bring it up, so, I don't talk with him about it As far as the strategy you presented, I wouldn't go that route exactly. If the 'impressed person' asked "What God is this? He made a part of people to suffer?! And why one part of Bible readers are happy, while the rest ones are unhappy?", I wouldn't respond with "You know, just read the Bible", I would tell them why there is unhappiness and suffering in the world according to what the Bible says, then wait for their response and go from there. As long as they wanted to talk about it, I would talk with them about it. If they do not want to talk about it, then they will let me know and I won't talk with them about it; I've had experience with this in person before.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2018 11:54:46 GMT
Garbage , pure garbage !!!
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