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Post by just10sp on Nov 4, 2018 20:39:00 GMT
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 4, 2018 22:05:26 GMT
It is completely impossible. Here's more plain explaining of this fact:
1. The light has a limited speed. It moves with approximately 300 000 kilometers per second.
2. The length from Sun to Earth is 149 600 000 km.
3. Time of the light from Sun to Earth is nearly 8 minutes (480 seconds).
4. The Earth's a half of the belt length is about 20 000 km.
5. The Sun is seen around 12 hours, so it's about 20 000 km.
5a. If we started see the Sun in 4.00 we would see 4.08 of Sun (because of 8 minutes of the light speed).
5b. So, we would finish to watch the Sun in 22.00, but it would be 22.08 of the Sun.
6. To see the Sun more than 8 minutes overlap, we need to:
a) decrease the speed of light;
b) stop the Earth for a time;
c) stop the Sun for a time.
7. We don't get active a) and b), but we want to set c) as well.
8. If we stop the Sun, there will not happen anything strange to Earth, because the Sun is in the same position to the Earth. So, nothing will happen.
9. So, we need to a) or b).
10. Nobody will discuss the limits of speed as it has been completely calculated, so the a) is left.
11. Is it possible to stop the Earth? We need at least to break the Newton laws to do it.
12. To spot the Earth we need to less its mass, or the mass of the Sun. Moreover, the mass shall need to be brand back again to its normal.
13. It's impossible to increase or decreases masses, because if it will happen, then all the solar system will be crashed.
14. We feel the Moon waves (magnetic effect of the Moon), and imagine if the mass of the Earth would be lost...
15. There was no 'The Sun Stop', never. Q.E.D.
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 5, 2018 2:31:44 GMT
It is completely impossible. Here's more plain explaining of this fact: 1. The light has a limited speed. It moves with approximately 300 000 kilometers per second. 2. The length from Sun to Earth is 149 600 000 km. 3. Time of the light from Sun to Earth is nearly 8 minutes (480 seconds). 4. The Earth's a half of the belt length is about 20 000 km. 5. The Sun is seen around 12 hours, so it's about 20 000 km. 5a. If we started see the Sun in 4.00 we would see 4.08 of Sun (because of 8 minutes of the light speed). 5b. So, we would finish to watch the Sun in 22.00, but it would be 22.08 of the Sun. 6. To see the Sun more than 8 minutes overlap, we need to: a) decrease the speed of light; b) stop the Earth for a time; c) stop the Sun for a time. 7. We don't get active a) and b), but we want to set c) as well. 8. If we stop the Sun, there will not happen anything strange to Earth, because the Sun is in the same position to the Earth. So, nothing will happen. 9. So, we need to a) or b). 10. Nobody will discuss the limits of speed as it has been completely calculated, so the a) is left. 11. Is it possible to stop the Earth? We need at least to break the Newton laws to do it. 12. To spot the Earth we need to less its mass, or the mass of the Sun. Moreover, the mass shall need to be brand back again to its normal. 13. It's impossible to increase or decreases masses, because if it will happen, then all the solar system will be crashed. 14. We feel the Moon waves (magnetic effect of the Moon), and imagine if the mass of the Earth would be lost... 15. There was no 'The Sun Stop', never. Q.E.D. I dont think any of this is relevant shrug |
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 5, 2018 3:12:23 GMT
It is completely impossible. Here's more plain explaining of this fact: 1. The light has a limited speed. It moves with approximately 300 000 kilometers per second. 2. The length from Sun to Earth is 149 600 000 km. 3. Time of the light from Sun to Earth is nearly 8 minutes (480 seconds). 4. The Earth's a half of the belt length is about 20 000 km. 5. The Sun is seen around 12 hours, so it's about 20 000 km. 5a. If we started see the Sun in 4.00 we would see 4.08 of Sun (because of 8 minutes of the light speed). 5b. So, we would finish to watch the Sun in 22.00, but it would be 22.08 of the Sun. 6. To see the Sun more than 8 minutes overlap, we need to: a) decrease the speed of light; b) stop the Earth for a time; c) stop the Sun for a time. 7. We don't get active a) and b), but we want to set c) as well. 8. If we stop the Sun, there will not happen anything strange to Earth, because the Sun is in the same position to the Earth. So, nothing will happen. 9. So, we need to a) or b). 10. Nobody will discuss the limits of speed as it has been completely calculated, so the a) is left. 11. Is it possible to stop the Earth? We need at least to break the Newton laws to do it. 12. To spot the Earth we need to less its mass, or the mass of the Sun. Moreover, the mass shall need to be brand back again to its normal. 13. It's impossible to increase or decreases masses, because if it will happen, then all the solar system will be crashed. 14. We feel the Moon waves (magnetic effect of the Moon), and imagine if the mass of the Earth would be lost... 15. There was no 'The Sun Stop', never. Q.E.D. I dont think any of this is relevant shrug He is just thinking in human terms. But God is the one who designed things to work like Eugene claims they work and so God has the power to tweak it when necessary. |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 5, 2018 3:18:20 GMT
I dont think any of this is relevant shrug He is just thinking in human terms. But God is the one who designed things to work like Eugene claims they work and so God has the power to tweak it when necessary. Yea, that is what I was going to say. God made the rules for physics any everything else and He's all powerful. He can change anything He wants whenever He wants. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 5, 2018 11:27:56 GMT
It is completely impossible. Here's more plain explaining of this fact: 1. The light has a limited speed. It moves with approximately 300 000 kilometers per second. 2. The length from Sun to Earth is 149 600 000 km. 3. Time of the light from Sun to Earth is nearly 8 minutes (480 seconds). 4. The Earth's a half of the belt length is about 20 000 km. 5. The Sun is seen around 12 hours, so it's about 20 000 km. 5a. If we started see the Sun in 4.00 we would see 4.08 of Sun (because of 8 minutes of the light speed). 5b. So, we would finish to watch the Sun in 22.00, but it would be 22.08 of the Sun. 6. To see the Sun more than 8 minutes overlap, we need to: a) decrease the speed of light; b) stop the Earth for a time; c) stop the Sun for a time. 7. We don't get active a) and b), but we want to set c) as well. 8. If we stop the Sun, there will not happen anything strange to Earth, because the Sun is in the same position to the Earth. So, nothing will happen. 9. So, we need to a) or b). 10. Nobody will discuss the limits of speed as it has been completely calculated, so the a) is left. 11. Is it possible to stop the Earth? We need at least to break the Newton laws to do it. 12. To spot the Earth we need to less its mass, or the mass of the Sun. Moreover, the mass shall need to be brand back again to its normal. 13. It's impossible to increase or decreases masses, because if it will happen, then all the solar system will be crashed. 14. We feel the Moon waves (magnetic effect of the Moon), and imagine if the mass of the Earth would be lost... 15. There was no 'The Sun Stop', never. Q.E.D. I dont think any of this is relevant  Then bring me some arguments, please. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 5, 2018 17:30:03 GMT
I dont think any of this is relevant He is just thinking in human terms. But God is the one who designed things to work like Eugene claims they work and so God has the power to tweak it when necessary. I believe in God, but to honest it's really hard to find some evidence of His existence or His interfering into Universe laws. David Hume was the one who proved that it's impossible to believe in miracles. Briefly, he said that believing in miracles is similar to believe in something that it hasn't explained by science yet; children believe in miracles, because they haven't already known that some things have another explanations; so Satan Klaus too. The most straight follower of Christ should be a skeptical scientist. So, science is the true church of God. |
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Post by just10sp on Nov 5, 2018 18:25:23 GMT
He is just thinking in human terms. But God is the one who designed things to work like Eugene claims they work and so God has the power to tweak it when necessary. I believe in God, but to honest it's really hard to find some evidence of His existence or His interfering into Universe laws. David Hume was the one who proved that it's impossible to believe in miracles. Briefly, he said that believing in miracles is similar to believe in something that it hasn't explained by science yet; children believe in miracles, because they haven't already known that some things have another explanations; so Satan Klaus too. The most straight follower of Christ should be a skeptical scientist. So, science is the true church of God. Kindly speaking, I am a skeptical scientist.  But if you must for evidence and there was just posted a valuable 5 minute video of many civilizations reporting the Sun did not rise in their area, and in other areas that the Sun did not set.. and of course the lovable Bible also makes that claim. Also, to respond more directly to what you say! I think we are children in the world of physics, and a simple trick of God seems rather impossible to us, just as an adult can make a child think a coin disappeared. We then deem it a miracle, and since miracles are too miraculous to be believed in unless you are of faith, it is then deemed impossible and essentially a lie, and that those who believe it a fool. To me it is just something that cannot be explained by science yet  |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 6, 2018 3:31:57 GMT
I dont think any of this is relevant Then bring me some arguments, please. I already did above shrug |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 6, 2018 3:37:10 GMT
He is just thinking in human terms. But God is the one who designed things to work like Eugene claims they work and so God has the power to tweak it when necessary. I believe in God, but to honest it's really hard to find some evidence of His existence or His interfering into Universe laws. David Hume was the one who proved that it's impossible to believe in miracles. Briefly, he said that believing in miracles is similar to believe in something that it hasn't explained by science yet; children believe in miracles, because they haven't already known that some things have another explanations; so Satan Klaus too. The most straight follower of Christ should be a skeptical scientist. So, science is the true church of God. Science cannot explain everything, especially the supernatural. |
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Post by Elizabeth on Nov 6, 2018 4:41:22 GMT
Eugene 2.0 did you know there are some cool stuff on earth and other planets that do not follow rules! Like there's gravity. And we know that if you throw anything or drop anything it'll go down not up right? But there are places on earth where gravity doesn't work! Things will go up! And there's a cool planet far away that rains A LOT. Like nonstop I think and it isn't even water. It is glass! And not only does it not rain down as gravity would but rains sideways! And another planet that's like half freezing always (like ice age or worse) and the other half hot (like as if it's hell). Not sure if it's half a gas planet or what. (There's videos on all this in science section if you haven't seen) But all these things are against the normal laws but it happens daily. Just crazy!
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Post by just10sp on Nov 6, 2018 4:51:18 GMT
I believe in God, but to honest it's really hard to find some evidence of His existence or His interfering into Universe laws. David Hume was the one who proved that it's impossible to believe in miracles. Briefly, he said that believing in miracles is similar to believe in something that it hasn't explained by science yet; children believe in miracles, because they haven't already known that some things have another explanations; so Satan Klaus too. The most straight follower of Christ should be a skeptical scientist. So, science is the true church of God. Science cannot explain everything, especially the supernatural. Science may not be able to explain everything but I can |
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Post by DKTrav88 on Nov 6, 2018 5:51:50 GMT
Eugene 2.0 did you know there are some cool stuff on earth and other planets that do not follow rules! Like there's gravity. And we know that if you throw anything or drop anything it'll go down not up right? But there are places on earth where gravity doesn't work! Things will go up! And there's a cool planet far away that rains A LOT. Like nonstop I think and it isn't even water. It is glass! And not only does it not rain down as gravity would but rains sideways! And another planet that's like half freezing always (like ice age or worse) and the other half hot (like as if it's hell). Not sure if it's half a gas planet or what. (There's videos on all this in science section if you haven't seen) But all these things are against the normal laws but it happens daily. Just crazy! I was going to point out how many of the planets and moons in our solar system spin backwards or have backward orbits around their host planet, which is a mystery to scientists. It's a mystery because of how they theorize the solar system came to be and because it violates physics in their theory. When something is spinning, whatever flies off of that spinning object will spin in the same direction. Bolas or bolos are a perfect example of this force. This is the best video I could find for an example, ...but you can see how he is spinning it above his head and throws it, it continues spinning the same direction(counter-clockwise). I'm sure there's a scientific name for this force, I just don't know what it's called. But one planet in our solar system, Venus, spins backwards. Scientists have come up with all kinds of theories to explain why it spins backwards, but they can't and won't even be able to prove any of them. There are a host of moons that have backwards orbits and spin backwards as well. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 15:03:23 GMT
I believe in God, but to honest it's really hard to find some evidence of His existence or His interfering into Universe laws. David Hume was the one who proved that it's impossible to believe in miracles. Briefly, he said that believing in miracles is similar to believe in something that it hasn't explained by science yet; children believe in miracles, because they haven't already known that some things have another explanations; so Satan Klaus too. The most straight follower of Christ should be a skeptical scientist. So, science is the true church of God. Kindly speaking, I am a skeptical scientist. But if you must for evidence and there was just posted a valuable 5 minute video of many civilizations reporting the Sun did not rise in their area, and in other areas that the Sun did not set.. and of course the lovable Bible also makes that claim. Also, to respond more directly to what you say! I think we are children in the world of physics, and a simple trick of God seems rather impossible to us, just as an adult can make a child think a coin disappeared. We then deem it a miracle, and since miracles are too miraculous to be believed in unless you are of faith, it is then deemed impossible and essentially a lie, and that those who believe it a fool. To me it is just something that cannot be explained by science yet Thank you for your answering, Skeptical Science (^_^) It's worse for God to be alive. If I were God, I would do something good for people I wouldn't destroy them. After millions of deaths of so many ordinary people, there's no place for God. If He'd shown Himself, we'd lynch Him by His own laws! |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 6, 2018 15:07:07 GMT
Then bring me some arguments, please. I already did above Oh, yeah? Then the world must have seen it! Nobody believes in God. There are people who claim that they believe in God. I don't believe them. Maybe there was God, but God is no more. He escaped. He said that He was completely tired of all those 'believers'. God hates believers most of all. God loves sinners. |
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