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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 18, 2022 13:33:14 GMT
Let's say you're trying to learn something reading it, repeating it, making exercises, but suddenly you get an example, or a passage, or a task that you can't solve. So you can sit, try, and try. Some of examples sooner or later "give up", and you continue to learn, but there are the cases you can't solve or to get for days or weeks.
If you met cases as such what did you do? Do you think that it's just a temporary barrier that can be overcame later? Or it shows that there is a brain limit, and there is no further way?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Feb 8, 2023 6:01:52 GMT
Let's say you're trying to learn something reading it, repeating it, making exercises, but suddenly you get an example, or a passage, or a task that you can't solve. So you can sit, try, and try. Some of examples sooner or later "give up", and you continue to learn, but there are the cases you can't solve or to get for days or weeks. If you met cases as such what did you do? Do you think that it's just a temporary barrier that can be overcame later? Or it shows that there is a brain limit, and there is no further way? It's never a limit but if I get really stuck and just cannot seem to understand or learn it what I'll do is pretend to be like the kind of person that is a professional at it or as part of their professional job they deal with it regularly So what I do is I will read things that relate to it, involve it, are related to it and I'll play audio or YouTube videos that talk about it as if it's something that I love just like you in your spare time like to do your favorite hobby I will pretend that it is my favorite hobby and maybe go to a forum and read random post about it Example being if you want to learn how to make a hand pan I would go join all the groups on Facebook and read up on what all they post and look for content online that talks about it while listening to YouTube videos about how to make them and so I submerge myself in that world and I'll have videos that explain the thing I'm wanting to learn but I look for content that's to complicated for me to understand even if I focus it's just like Chinese arithmetic I don't understand any of it and I'll play that in the background while I'm doing other things hardly paying attention to it because I know my subconscious is hearing it and making myself familiar to it and one day all of a sudden you'll notice that that jargon they're talking about that meant absolutely nothing to you a few weeks ago you automatically know what he's about to say and you catch on to what he's talking about making and then you realize holy crap I know what he's saying! And you have officially broken through your plateau It's a technique used for learning new languages or at least I think it is I don't know maybe I completely came up with it
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Feb 8, 2023 10:44:51 GMT
Let's say you're trying to learn something reading it, repeating it, making exercises, but suddenly you get an example, or a passage, or a task that you can't solve. So you can sit, try, and try. Some of examples sooner or later "give up", and you continue to learn, but there are the cases you can't solve or to get for days or weeks. If you met cases as such what did you do? Do you think that it's just a temporary barrier that can be overcame later? Or it shows that there is a brain limit, and there is no further way? It's never a limit but if I get really stuck and just cannot seem to understand or learn it what I'll do is pretend to be like the kind of person that is a professional at it or as part of their professional job they deal with it regularly So what I do is I will read things that relate to it, involve it, are related to it and I'll play audio or YouTube videos that talk about it as if it's something that I love just like you in your spare time like to do your favorite hobby I will pretend that it is my favorite hobby and maybe go to a forum and read random post about it Example being if you want to learn how to make a hand pan I would go join all the groups on Facebook and read up on what all they post and look for content online that talks about it while listening to YouTube videos about how to make them and so I submerge myself in that world and I'll have videos that explain the thing I'm wanting to learn but I look for content that's to complicated for me to understand even if I focus it's just like Chinese arithmetic I don't understand any of it and I'll play that in the background while I'm doing other things hardly paying attention to it because I know my subconscious is hearing it and making myself familiar to it and one day all of a sudden you'll notice that that jargon they're talking about that meant absolutely nothing to you a few weeks ago you automatically know what he's about to say and you catch on to what he's talking about making and then you realize holy crap I know what he's saying! And you have officially broken through your plateau It's a technique used for learning new languages or at least I think it is I don't know maybe I completely came up with it LOL This is impressive! If you do things like that - this is awesome! Can't say my nervous system or behaviour is like that. Usually when I encounter any difficult task I try to think about it, but I try to do it as private as possible. What do I mean? I try not to watch anything, or to read anything about it, but try to focus on it as hard as possible - to try it to solve by myself. Let me bring an example from life. Here's a formula in Modal Logic I had to solve. Prove it in a system of M1: A → □ ◊ASo, until I solve it by myself I can't go further. Sometimes it happens that I just pass such formulas or obstacles, and go further, but mostly no moving till the formula is solved. Almost the same strategy I held during solving exercises in Algebra or Geometry. The same is about the Rubick Cube: I've got two of them. One is 9x9, and another is 4x4. Firstly I bought 9x9 and still it is on a shelf of mine being unsolved. Some time later I bought 4x4 and also tried to complete it. I still fail. But I never surf any spare sources of how to complete the Rubick Cube till I can do it by myself. Just can't. If I go to another site or video and there I'll see how to solve it - for me this means to loose the riddle.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Feb 13, 2023 20:25:40 GMT
It's never a limit but if I get really stuck and just cannot seem to understand or learn it what I'll do is pretend to be like the kind of person that is a professional at it or as part of their professional job they deal with it regularly So what I do is I will read things that relate to it, involve it, are related to it and I'll play audio or YouTube videos that talk about it as if it's something that I love just like you in your spare time like to do your favorite hobby I will pretend that it is my favorite hobby and maybe go to a forum and read random post about it Example being if you want to learn how to make a hand pan I would go join all the groups on Facebook and read up on what all they post and look for content online that talks about it while listening to YouTube videos about how to make them and so I submerge myself in that world and I'll have videos that explain the thing I'm wanting to learn but I look for content that's to complicated for me to understand even if I focus it's just like Chinese arithmetic I don't understand any of it and I'll play that in the background while I'm doing other things hardly paying attention to it because I know my subconscious is hearing it and making myself familiar to it and one day all of a sudden you'll notice that that jargon they're talking about that meant absolutely nothing to you a few weeks ago you automatically know what he's about to say and you catch on to what he's talking about making and then you realize holy crap I know what he's saying! And you have officially broken through your plateau It's a technique used for learning new languages or at least I think it is I don't know maybe I completely came up with it This is impressive! If you do things like that - this is awesome! Can't say my nervous system or behaviour is like that. Usually when I encounter any difficult task I try to think about it, but I try to do it as private as possible. What do I mean? I try not to watch anything, or to read anything about it, but try to focus on it as hard as possible - to try it to solve by myself. Let me bring an example from life. Here's a formula in Modal Logic I had to solve. Prove it in a system of M1: A → □ ◊ASo, until I solve it by myself I can't go further. Sometimes it happens that I just pass such formulas or obstacles, and go further, but mostly no moving till the formula is solved. Almost the same strategy I held during solving exercises in Algebra or Geometry. The same is about the Rubick Cube: I've got two of them. One is 9x9, and another is 4x4. Firstly I bought 9x9 and still it is on a shelf of mine being unsolved. Some time later I bought 4x4 and also tried to complete it. I still fail. But I never surf any spare sources of how to complete the Rubick Cube till I can do it by myself. Just can't. If I go to another site or video and there I'll see how to solve it - for me this means to loose the riddle. Well yes thats actually exactly how I normally learn something because I want to see if I come to the same conclusions as those that have already mastered it , but you asked what to do when that normal methods aren't working So I guess you could say that when it fails just do the complete opposite of what you were doing
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