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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Nov 10, 2022 14:41:21 GMT
I wonder about that, because I think it wasn't impossible for certain folks to cross their genes with the amphibians creatures, like the fish-man ones, and if anything of such took place long ago in history, then the mermaid was not a myth. Those girlish creatures are popular among many folks all over the world, so maybe there were mermaid?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 1, 2023 22:25:40 GMT
Not physical mermaids. Such a thing biologically is impossible. But spirit beings, water spirits and the like, yes. The gods and spirits of pagan myth are demonic according to classical Christianity and the Second Temple Judaism that preceded it and this is the actual origin of the mermaid myth. The Gullah in my state in their religion of Hoodoo pray to and deal with water spirits with their origin in the Congo back in Africa called the Simbi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simbi One of the forms it takes when making itself visible is a mermaid. There's probably a reason why so many mermaid tales involve them luring sailors siren-like to their death. |
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Post by joustos on Jul 2, 2023 15:35:30 GMT
are u Jonbain?
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 3, 2023 4:48:34 GMT
No. Don't reckon I am, or at least I wasn't last time I checked. But I can check again. jonbain We're still two different people ain't we? This Italian feller's confusing me what with his reality bending identity paradox questions and whatnot. |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 8, 2023 15:43:26 GMT
No. Don't reckon I am, or at least I wasn't last time I checked. But I can check again. jonbain We're still two different people ain't we? This Italian feller's confusing me what with his reality bending identity paradox questions and whatnot.
Well, we had better have an argument with ourselves to keep up the illusion... Firstly, its pretty obvious that Merfolk were real at one time, and like still are, though not on this little planet. That is Mermaids, and Myrmidon.
En garde, ombre, puissions-nous nous battre en duel jusqu'à l'aube, ou jusqu'à la mort.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 10, 2023 0:53:09 GMT
Not physical mermaids. Such a thing biologically is impossible. But spirit beings, water spirits and the like, yes. The gods and spirits of pagan myth are demonic according to classical Christianity and the Second Temple Judaism that preceded it and this is the actual origin of the mermaid myth. The Gullah in my state in their religion of Hoodoo pray to and deal with water spirits with their origin in the Congo back in Africa called the Simbi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simbi One of the forms it takes when making itself visible is a mermaid. There's probably a reason why so many mermaid tales involve them luring sailors siren-like to their death. Oh, too bad it's not possible scientifically. (I'm joking – of course it's good, or else what a freakish world would we have!) If mermaids existed I guess the red lantern streets would look differently :) Oh yeah, I've heard of that legend. It's mentioned in Homer's "The Illiad". That's also interesting, and I find this unexplainable that Ukrainian legendary mermaids usually are muted or completely silent. And the name of a typical mermaid in Ukrainian is Rusalka [roo-súll-kah]. |
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Jul 10, 2023 1:00:04 GMT
Have you ever dealt with detective work? Impressive when someone can find unique coincidences. |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 11, 2023 21:22:52 GMT
No. Don't reckon I am, or at least I wasn't last time I checked. But I can check again. jonbain We're still two different people ain't we? This Italian feller's confusing me what with his reality bending identity paradox questions and whatnot.
Well, we had better have an argument with ourselves to keep up the illusion... Firstly, its pretty obvious that Merfolk were real at one time, and like still are, though not on this little planet. That is Mermaids, and Myrmidon.
En garde, ombre, puissions-nous nous battre en duel jusqu'à l'aube, ou jusqu'à la mort.
Well, I'm not much for arguments anymore. I don't trust myself not to be a jerk about things. But... you did just challenge me to a duel in French and where I come from gentleman don't run away from duels...  So first, I cannot speak of mermaids on other planets. We are not even sure that life even exists on other planets, but they might, and their might be mermaids there, I don't know. But on this earth? That is a different story. We would have some kind of compelling proof I think of flesh and blood mermaids, and myrmidons (a very obscure creature from Greek mythology. Ant people if i'm not mistaken?) May you kindly lay out this proof? |
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 11, 2023 21:27:50 GMT
Not physical mermaids. Such a thing biologically is impossible. But spirit beings, water spirits and the like, yes. The gods and spirits of pagan myth are demonic according to classical Christianity and the Second Temple Judaism that preceded it and this is the actual origin of the mermaid myth. The Gullah in my state in their religion of Hoodoo pray to and deal with water spirits with their origin in the Congo back in Africa called the Simbi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simbi One of the forms it takes when making itself visible is a mermaid. There's probably a reason why so many mermaid tales involve them luring sailors siren-like to their death. Oh, too bad it's not possible scientifically. (I'm joking – of course it's good, or else what a freakish world would we have!) If mermaids existed I guess the red lantern streets would look differently  Oh yeah, I've heard of that legend. It's mentioned in Homer's "The Illiad". That's also interesting, and I find this unexplainable that Ukrainian legendary mermaids usually are muted or completely silent. And the name of a typical mermaid in Ukrainian is Rusalka [roo-súll-kah].  , red light districts? She's a fish below the waist mate! They reproduce by laying eggs on the ground and having the male fish... uh fertilize the eggs externally. Although I reckon there'd be some people in to that. People are into all kinds of weird stuff today... Also, the Rusalka... You have given me a new mythical creature to research. Thank you very much. |
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Post by lamburk on Jul 12, 2023 13:05:10 GMT
I really cannot understand that how did you even come up with such a comparision. |
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Post by lamburk on Jul 12, 2023 13:07:21 GMT
Not physical mermaids. Such a thing biologically is impossible. But spirit beings, water spirits and the like, yes. The gods and spirits of pagan myth are demonic according to classical Christianity and the Second Temple Judaism that preceded it and this is the actual origin of the mermaid myth. The Gullah in my state in their religion of Hoodoo pray to and deal with water spirits with their origin in the Congo back in Africa called the Simbi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simbi One of the forms it takes when making itself visible is a mermaid. There's probably a reason why so many mermaid tales involve them luring sailors siren-like to their death. Yup, and not to forget, sailors like columbus, and neo colonialists from Europe, when they were embarking to discover 'NEW WORLD', they found many unique creatures in the sea, and they had named these creatures such as mermaids etc. www.history.com/this-day-in-history/columbus-mistakes-manatees-for-mermaids |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 12, 2023 13:25:21 GMT
Well, we had better have an argument with ourselves to keep up the illusion... Firstly, its pretty obvious that Merfolk were real at one time, and like still are, though not on this little planet. That is Mermaids, and Myrmidon.
En garde, ombre, puissions-nous nous battre en duel jusqu'à l'aube, ou jusqu'à la mort.
Well, I'm not much for arguments anymore. I don't trust myself not to be a jerk about things. But... you did just challenge me to a duel in French and where I come from gentleman don't run away from duels... So first, I cannot speak of mermaids on other planets. We are not even sure that life even exists on other planets, but they might, and their might be mermaids there, I don't know. But on this earth? That is a different story. We would have some kind of compelling proof I think of flesh and blood mermaids, and myrmidons (a very obscure creature from Greek mythology. Ant people if i'm not mistaken?) May you kindly lay out this proof? Proof? Why should I have to provide proof to my alter-ego? Surely you should just agree to my every point?
Evidence however, there is plenty. Lyall Watson in his many books, argues that Cro-Magon is a hybrid of Neanderthal and an 'Aquatic ape'.
The compelling reason that we are at least partly evolved from the Merfolk, is our lack of body hair, something found just about only on aquatic mammals.
He had numerous other reasons too, though i read his work decades ago, i seem to recall that it included our taste for salt.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 23, 2023 1:47:21 GMT
Well, I'm not much for arguments anymore. I don't trust myself not to be a jerk about things. But... you did just challenge me to a duel in French and where I come from gentleman don't run away from duels... So first, I cannot speak of mermaids on other planets. We are not even sure that life even exists on other planets, but they might, and their might be mermaids there, I don't know. But on this earth? That is a different story. We would have some kind of compelling proof I think of flesh and blood mermaids, and myrmidons (a very obscure creature from Greek mythology. Ant people if i'm not mistaken?) May you kindly lay out this proof? Proof? Why should I have to provide proof to my alter-ego? Surely you should just agree to my every point?
Evidence however, there is plenty. Lyall Watson in his many books, argues that Cro-Magon is a hybrid of Neanderthal and an 'Aquatic ape'.
The compelling reason that we are at least partly evolved from the Merfolk, is our lack of body hair, something found just about only on aquatic mammals.
He had numerous other reasons too, though i read his work decades ago, i seem to recall that it included our taste for salt.
I've heard of the aquatic ape theory, and though I think its plausible I doubt the thing could be considered a mermaid in the classical sense. To produce fertile offspring two animals need to be very close genetically, and I doubt a hominid with the bottom half of a dolphin is going to be close enough to breed with a Neanderthal of which you and I are both most assuredly descended. For reference, an alligator and a crocodile cannot produce any offspring whatsoever, they cannot breed. The aquatic ape was likely just a morphologically similar human to us that was just a great deal more adapted to an amphibious lifestyle with more webbed hands and feet, a greater ability to hold its breath longer, a diet more adapted to seafood etc. Like I said, I believe in mermaids as in I believe in water spirits (demons) that can appear and prefer to appear in such a form but I don't believe in a biological mermaid. Biological creatures are limited by the confines of biology, while spirit beings have no biology to speak of and can appear how they like to us. |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 23, 2023 7:47:27 GMT
Proof? Why should I have to provide proof to my alter-ego? Surely you should just agree to my every point?
Evidence however, there is plenty. Lyall Watson in his many books, argues that Cro-Magon is a hybrid of Neanderthal and an 'Aquatic ape'.
The compelling reason that we are at least partly evolved from the Merfolk, is our lack of body hair, something found just about only on aquatic mammals.
He had numerous other reasons too, though i read his work decades ago, i seem to recall that it included our taste for salt.
I've heard of the aquatic ape theory, and though I think its plausible I doubt the thing could be considered a mermaid in the classical sense. To produce fertile offspring two animals need to be very close genetically, and I doubt a hominid with the bottom half of a dolphin is going to be close enough to breed with a Neanderthal of which you and I are both most assuredly descended. For reference, an alligator and a crocodile cannot produce any offspring whatsoever, they cannot breed. The aquatic ape was likely just a morphologically similar human to us that was just a great deal more adapted to an amphibious lifestyle with more webbed hands and feet, a greater ability to hold its breath longer, a diet more adapted to seafood etc. Like I said, I believe in mermaids as in I believe in water spirits (demons) that can appear and prefer to appear in such a form but I don't believe in a biological mermaid. Biological creatures are limited by the confines of biology, while spirit beings have no biology to speak of and can appear how they like to us.
But if you look at the evolution of cetaceans, they lose or acquire
what limbs their environment dictates.
If dolphins can follow that evolutionary path, why not people?
But the glaring omission in all contemporary evolution theory is that of inter-planetary migration.
So where is the evidence for that?
Well firstly the sheer number of stars out there, and then there are all the gaping inexplicable holes in the fossil record.
Easily 'plugged' with the most infamous 'science of the gaps' idea ever contrived: 'random mutation'.
The notion that life forms could be deliberately placed here is just infinitely
more likely than the 'magical' thinking of 'random mutation'. Possibly the most unscientific thumb-suck i ever heard of, is 'random mutation'.
The most vital hole in the fossil record is the often-denied fact of their being no credible direct connection between Neanderthal and Cro-magnon.
But Lyall Watson's other proof springs to mind. That the only creatures that mate face-to-face, are Humans and Cetaceans. And if you think about it, its just simpler in an aquatic environment to do it 'dolphin-style'.
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Post by Polaris on Jul 23, 2023 13:27:13 GMT
No. I believe there are no mermaids. They are only mental constructs that the human mind has been making up here and there and in different forms throughout the history of mankind.
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, red light districts? She's a fish below the waist mate! They reproduce by laying eggs on the ground and having the male fish... uh fertilize the eggs externally. Although I reckon there'd be some people in to that. People are into all kinds of weird stuff today...