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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 10, 2022 18:36:20 GMT
Did anyone have a practice in soldering SMD elements? How do you solder them?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 12, 2022 10:55:29 GMT
I wish I knew more about it because I have a 2.1 amp I ordered from AliExpress that came in the mail damaged 2 of the super small top mountain capacitors half the size of a grain of rice got knocked off the subwoofer channel and so the subwoofer channel doesn't work at all which is literally the whole point and why I bought it it's a nice little lamp it's about the size of two wallets side by side and downside is it you can find a power supply powerful enough it puts out a lot of power I find that it works best with battery power because finding a power supply that is 38 volts 10 amps is just to expensive And it uses 2 TPA3251 I think that's the chip it uses It has great sound quality it one of my favorite amps for sure. From what I've read to solder SMD components you have to use solder paste which is a type of solder that comes in a tube and you have to use a solder heat gun which looks like a long fat pencil shaped type of solder gun but it's a soldering heat gun it blows a gentle extremely hot air hot enough to melt solder and you use that for heating up the solder paste which will then bind the component on and this is all done under a microscope or an amazing pair of eyes
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 12, 2022 17:36:47 GMT
I wish I knew more about it because I have a 2.1 amp I ordered from AliExpress that came in the mail damaged 2 of the super small top mountain capacitors half the size of a grain of rice got knocked off the subwoofer channel and so the subwoofer channel doesn't work at all which is literally the whole point and why I bought it LOL it's a nice little lamp it's about the size of two wallets side by side and downside is it you can find a power supply powerful enough it puts out a lot of power I find that it works best with battery power because finding a power supply that is 38 volts 10 amps is just to expensive And it uses 2 TPA3251 I think that's the chip it uses It has great sound quality it one of my favorite amps for sure. From what I've read to solder SMD components you have to use solder paste which is a type of solder that comes in a tube and you have to use a solder heat gun which looks like a long fat pencil shaped type of solder gun but it's a soldering heat gun it blows a gentle extremely hot air hot enough to melt solder and you use that for heating up the solder paste which will then bind the component on and this is all done under a microscope or an amazing pair of eyes LOL Thank you so much for your info. Yeah, I also was going to buy a soldering station via AliExpress. It's cheaper, than to buy it the other way. I know that SMD are also cheaper, and it's easier to get them, and to use. However, there are almost complete plates for Arduino, etc. SMD are the problem for me. You are right, it requires those magnifying glasses or something, but not only this! – hands must not be shaking. My biggest problem is exactly shaking hands. To calm, or to put a heat gun accurately – is indeed a hard work. On the other hand, if I sew with a needle and sewing rolls, none of such problem occurs. I don't know why. Besides, the process of soldering was always not an easy time for me, when I tried to just fixed my ear phones, etc – the thinest wires. Usually the solder alloy is never to stick properly. I think it's a chemistry problem, and as long as I heat the soldering place it makes the wire to get oxide, and it turns the procedure into a calmess one.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 12, 2022 20:21:29 GMT
I wish I knew more about it because I have a 2.1 amp I ordered from AliExpress that came in the mail damaged 2 of the super small top mountain capacitors half the size of a grain of rice got knocked off the subwoofer channel and so the subwoofer channel doesn't work at all which is literally the whole point and why I bought it it's a nice little lamp it's about the size of two wallets side by side and downside is it you can find a power supply powerful enough it puts out a lot of power I find that it works best with battery power because finding a power supply that is 38 volts 10 amps is just to expensive And it uses 2 TPA3251 I think that's the chip it uses It has great sound quality it one of my favorite amps for sure. From what I've read to solder SMD components you have to use solder paste which is a type of solder that comes in a tube and you have to use a solder heat gun which looks like a long fat pencil shaped type of solder gun but it's a soldering heat gun it blows a gentle extremely hot air hot enough to melt solder and you use that for heating up the solder paste which will then bind the component on and this is all done under a microscope or an amazing pair of eyes Thank you so much for your info. Yeah, I also was going to buy a soldering station via AliExpress. It's cheaper, than to buy it the other way. I know that SMD are also cheaper, and it's easier to get them, and to use. However, there are almost complete plates for Arduino, etc. SMD are the problem for me. You are right, it requires those magnifying glasses or something, but not only this! – hands must not be shaking. My biggest problem is exactly shaking hands. To calm, or to put a heat gun accurately – is indeed a hard work. On the other hand, if I sew with a needle and sewing rolls, none of such problem occurs. I don't know why. Besides, the process of soldering was always not an easy time for me, when I tried to just fixed my ear phones, etc – the thinest wires. Usually the solder alloy is never to stick properly. I think it's a chemistry problem, and as long as I heat the soldering place it makes the wire to get oxide, and it turns the procedure into a calmess one. Ahh is your shaking hands a stimulus issue? Like to much coffee kind of thing or is it a physical damage kind of thing? And soldering can be a tricky thing you have to make sure the temperature is not too hot it needs to be just hot enough to melt the solder you can tell if it's too hot when you touch the solder to the tip and you melt the solder but it will not stick to the soldering iron it just falls off instantly it's probably too hot then likewise if it it's the part too hot it won't want to stick properly And it's always good to take the tip of the solder and scoop a little bit of flexpaced which is a waxy acidic substance and allow that to completely coat the two parts you're trying to solder together it makes it kind of dirty but some isopropyl alcohol in a toothbrush cleans it all up once you're done but smother the little piece where you're wanting to solder and then melt the solder right on top of it and it helps it Bond the two pieces much better unless one of the pieces is aluminum solder does not like to stick to aluminum you have to use a special solder specifically made for aluminum and a lot of wires these days are CCA which is copper-clad aluminum meaning it has a thin layer of copper on the outside of aluminum which can easily be scraped off and makes it difficult to solder to
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 12, 2022 20:22:37 GMT
Thank you so much for your info. Yeah, I also was going to buy a soldering station via AliExpress. It's cheaper, than to buy it the other way. I know that SMD are also cheaper, and it's easier to get them, and to use. However, there are almost complete plates for Arduino, etc. SMD are the problem for me. You are right, it requires those magnifying glasses or something, but not only this! – hands must not be shaking. My biggest problem is exactly shaking hands. To calm, or to put a heat gun accurately – is indeed a hard work. On the other hand, if I sew with a needle and sewing rolls, none of such problem occurs. I don't know why. Besides, the process of soldering was always not an easy time for me, when I tried to just fixed my ear phones, etc – the thinest wires. Usually the solder alloy is never to stick properly. I think it's a chemistry problem, and as long as I heat the soldering place it makes the wire to get oxide, and it turns the procedure into a calmess one. Ahh is your shaking hands a stimulus issue? Like to much coffee kind of thing or is it a physical damage kind of thing? And soldering can be a tricky thing you have to make sure the temperature is not too hot it needs to be just hot enough to melt the solder you can tell if it's too hot when you touch the solder to the tip and you melt the solder but it will not stick to the soldering iron it just falls off instantly it's probably too hot then likewise if it it's the part too hot it won't want to stick properly And it's always good to take the tip of the solder and scoop a little bit of flux past which is a waxy acidic substance and allow that to completely coat the two parts you're trying to solder together it makes it kind of dirty but some isopropyl alcohol in a toothbrush cleans it all up once you're done but smother the little piece where you're wanting to solder and then melt the solder right on top of it and it helps it Bond the two pieces much better unless one of the pieces is aluminum solder does not like to stick to aluminum you have to use a special solder specifically made for aluminum and a lot of wires these days are CCA which is copper-clad aluminum meaning it has a thin layer of copper on the outside of aluminum which can easily be scraped off and makes it difficult to solder to
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 14, 2022 14:04:02 GMT
Ahh is your shaking hands a stimulus issue? Like to much coffee kind of thing or is it a physical damage kind of thing? And soldering can be a tricky thing you have to make sure the temperature is not too hot it needs to be just hot enough to melt the solder you can tell if it's too hot when you touch the solder to the tip and you melt the solder but it will not stick to the soldering iron it just falls off instantly it's probably too hot then likewise if it it's the part too hot it won't want to stick properly And it's always good to take the tip of the solder and scoop a little bit of flux past which is a waxy acidic substance and allow that to completely coat the two parts you're trying to solder together it makes it kind of dirty but some isopropyl alcohol in a toothbrush cleans it all up once you're done but smother the little piece where you're wanting to solder and then melt the solder right on top of it and it helps it Bond the two pieces much better unless one of the pieces is aluminum solder does not like to stick to aluminum you have to use a special solder specifically made for aluminum and a lot of wires these days are CCA which is copper-clad aluminum meaning it has a thin layer of copper on the outside of aluminum which can easily be scraped off and makes it difficult to solder to It's not like I cannot do anything with a soldering iron, but I'd say the soldering work of mine is usually bad. I'd better offer this work to someone else.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Sept 14, 2022 18:27:42 GMT
It's not like I cannot do anything with a soldering iron, but I'd say the soldering work of mine is usually bad. I'd better offer this work to someone else. I can weld a 20ft long oil tanker frame that's worth 250k no problem but I can't solder SMD components
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 21, 2023 15:30:09 GMT
It's not like I cannot do anything with a soldering iron, but I'd say the soldering work of mine is usually bad. I'd better offer this work to someone else. I can weld a 20ft long oil tanker frame that's worth 250k no problem but I can't solder SMD components Impressive!! I apologize if this question is personal, but are you a former marine? Or are you serve on Navy, or fleet? Welding is something I never did myself, but I have always been wanting to try. My late cousin grandfather named Nicolia (or Nico? I don't know how to translate; he asked me to call him in a French manner Nicolá) was a cook, and served on a fleet (here I might be wrong; there are no one left from my relatives of that side who could be asked about it in details). He also weld, as far as I know he learned it while serving (being a soldier, or whatever), and when he came home (demobilised) he could do a welding kit by himself, and he made few ones. I remember my father told me about one of such episodes, when Nicolá – his uncle – took a massive coil, and without using soldering iron or something, took some wires, and some other things (I don't remember what exactly), created that kit, and then he and my father weld something – some metal stuff. I never tried welding, since my eyes haven't been good for it. And what about you? How did you feel after welding something? All I know that the process of welding ionises or emits some specific gas. And that smell is what can be easily spotted, if someone weld. However, I know too less to be sure here.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Oct 6, 2023 8:30:18 GMT
I can weld a 20ft long oil tanker frame that's worth 250k no problem but I can't solder SMD components Impressive!! I apologize if this question is personal, but are you a former marine? Or are you serve on Navy, or fleet? Welding is something I never did myself, but I have always been wanting to try. My late cousin grandfather named Nicolia (or Nico? I don't know how to translate; he asked me to call him in a French manner Nicolá) was a cook, and served on a fleet (here I might be wrong; there are no one left from my relatives of that side who could be asked about it in details). He also weld, as far as I know he learned it while serving (being a soldier, or whatever), and when he came home (demobilised) he could do a welding kit by himself, and he made few ones. I remember my father told me about one of such episodes, when Nicolá – his uncle – took a massive coil, and without using soldering iron or something, took some wires, and some other things (I don't remember what exactly), created that kit, and then he and my father weld something – some metal stuff. I never tried welding, since my eyes haven't been good for it. And what about you? How did you feel after welding something? All I know that the process of welding ionises or emits some specific gas. And that smell is what can be easily spotted, if someone weld. However, I know too less to be sure here. No i never joined i almost did because all of my frends at the martial arts dojo were Marines so all through my teen years i was hanging around military people so I picked up some of the lingo I know how to insult a Marine without other people understanding what was said But i needed a vetter paying job then the one i had because i was the bread winner my wife was a stay at home mom with are baby daughter because i refused to have the daycare raise my kid call me old fashioned So I taught myself how to weld by watching YouTube videos and then borrowing this MIG welder at work on my lunch break to practice with, then I went and had to lie on my job application where it required a minimum of 5 years welding experience because i had 0 experience (I felt bad for lying but I'd feel worse if there wasn't food on the table so I did what I had to do) then i took a 6G certification test (which is hard as hell to do, i was sweating like a French w**** sitting on the front row at a Pentecostal Revival haha) but i passed and got a job at a heavy machine shop making suspension systems and Chassis for caterpillar and a couple other big-name companies I used a miller 454 pulse mig welder it was a big hot hard to use welder the wire was 1/16" and the spool was 100LB which is huge for a mig welder, there are so many welds on one of the 25ft oil barrel chassis that it required one and a half spools to weld the entire chassis and I could use up a spool in one 12-hour day that's a ridiculous amount of welding but I digress and you had to be completely covered 0 skin showing which really sucked in the summer because the avrage temperature inside the shop for about 4 months out of the year was 114* Fahrenheit and probably in the 120's where you stand while welding because it would literally feel cool once you stopped laying a weld that's how hot it gets right in front of your face but you can't show any skin or else you would blister so bad that you blead and you have to learn how to only use 1 hand when welding because its so hot that even with welding gloves and a heat shealed your glove would still catch fire if you were using your other hand to stabilize your welding hand because it was common to lay 1 to 2ft solid beads at a time you couldn't stop or else it would mess up the integrity so that's a long time to have your hand near that heat I used a auto tint healmit but even set to the max 14 your eyes would still be fatigued by the end of the day sometimes I'd wear sunglasses up under my helmet that helped a lot But i only did it for about 3yrs because even though the company was huge where i worked they had figured out how to get around OSHA safety laws because if they have it written down that they're working on a solution for an OSHA violation that gives them a 18-month time span where they're allowed to keep doing something out of Osha safety guidelines so long as they're "working on fixing the problem". and then after the 18 months is up OSHA comes back in and they would write up a different plan to fix the problem and were given another 18 months and this persisted for years and years and in Texas 95% of hard labor/ blue collar workers in the metal working fealed are Mexican and they are pushovers because they dont want to get fired so no one ever complains about the slave like work environment so these companies get away with soooooo much bad stuff because they know that the Mexicans wont put there foot down. So they never fixed the ventilation to give us the proper ventilation and when they tested the air quality the rating was from 0 to 800 (800 being the maximum parts per million that could safely be inhaled within an 8-hour work day) but the problem was we worked 10 to 12 hour work days but they only measured it for 8 hours of that day and still within that eight hours the measurement came out to 1750 PPM which means that in a 10 to 12hr work day we were getting over 2x the maximum safe levels and consequently I ended up with cadmium poisoning and probably a few other heavy metals and it was making me sick I was very toxic I developed bad asthma and I lost my night vision which to this day is still gone for the most part and I haven't been a welder in 8 years So i try to avoid having to drive at night I still have night vision it just takes about 4 hours for it to kick in as opposed to a few minutes with the regular person, quite annoying. and yeah you can make your own getto stick welder by taking the transformer out of an old microwave the bigger the better and then cutting out the top section which is wired to produce about 3,000 volts which will send you to a different dimension real quick if you plug it in and get too close to it so you cut that section out and Rewind it with some 8 gauge or 4 gauge down to about 24 volts but the amperage would be much higher which is what you want and that's technically good enough right there obviously you can add some more components and make it a lot better than that but if you just needed to get two pieces of metal melted together then that would do the job with an 11/16 rod good enough for some farm jobs I wouldn't trust it on anything I'm driving but it's good enough for around the farm . ive actually got several huge 100v capacitors that i got from a guy local that i found on Facebook market that i plan on using one day to updrade my cheap flux core welder i got a few years ago because its not a good welder the voltage is unstable so the welds dont come out like i want them to and these capacitors were custom made by nichicon for a local audio company there 4.5LB each 100v 100000uf and he said they are "nichicon gold tone" he said his bulk price was 189$ each! idk what he charged the customer? but I do know that the amplifier that he used the men cost 100k! there were 2 per amp in the power supply ( this was an insanely crazy high-end company the kind that doesn't have to advertise kind of like Lamborghini and Ferrari doesn't have to advertise you just know because you got that kind of money same with this company a pair of 2 ft long interconnects ( so a two foot long set of RCA's) ranged from 2000 to $8,000 depending on which level you got. they went out of business a few years ago which is why they were for sale on Facebook but I didn't pay $189 a piece I only paid $15 each so I grabbed 8 of them did I need 8? no , but i couldn't pass up that kind of deal? no so quality wise they're a bit overkill for my $150 flux core welder but the cheapest capacitor this size that I can find is about $80 each and they're piss poor quality in comparison to these so I think I came out pretty good on the deal
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Oct 6, 2023 10:08:49 GMT
Impressive!! I apologize if this question is personal, but are you a former marine? Or are you serve on Navy, or fleet? Welding is something I never did myself, but I have always been wanting to try. My late cousin grandfather named Nicolia (or Nico? I don't know how to translate; he asked me to call him in a French manner Nicolá) was a cook, and served on a fleet (here I might be wrong; there are no one left from my relatives of that side who could be asked about it in details). He also weld, as far as I know he learned it while serving (being a soldier, or whatever), and when he came home (demobilised) he could do a welding kit by himself, and he made few ones. I remember my father told me about one of such episodes, when Nicolá – his uncle – took a massive coil, and without using soldering iron or something, took some wires, and some other things (I don't remember what exactly), created that kit, and then he and my father weld something – some metal stuff. I never tried welding, since my eyes haven't been good for it. And what about you? How did you feel after welding something? All I know that the process of welding ionises or emits some specific gas. And that smell is what can be easily spotted, if someone weld. However, I know too less to be sure here. No i never joined i almost did because all of my frends at the martial arts dojo were Marines so all through my teen years i was hanging around military people so I picked up some of the lingo I know how to insult a Marine without other people understanding what was said But i needed a vetter paying job then the one i had because i was the bread winner my wife was a stay at home mom with are baby daughter because i refused to have the daycare raise my kid call me old fashioned So I taught myself how to weld by watching YouTube videos and then borrowing this MIG welder at work on my lunch break to practice with, then I went and had to lie on my job application where it required a minimum of 5 years welding experience because i had 0 experience (I felt bad for lying but I'd feel worse if there wasn't food on the table so I did what I had to do) then i took a 6G certification test (which is hard as hell to do, i was sweating like a French w**** sitting on the front row at a Pentecostal Revival haha) but i passed and got a job at a heavy machine shop making suspension systems and Chassis for caterpillar and a couple other big-name companies I used a miller 454 pulse mig welder it was a big hot hard to use welder the wire was 1/16" and the spool was 100LB which is huge for a mig welder, there are so many welds on one of the 25ft oil barrel chassis that it required one and a half spools to weld the entire chassis and I could use up a spool in one 12-hour day that's a ridiculous amount of welding but I digress and you had to be completely covered 0 skin showing which really sucked in the summer because the avrage temperature inside the shop for about 4 months out of the year was 114* Fahrenheit and probably in the 120's where you stand while welding because it would literally feel cool once you stopped laying a weld that's how hot it gets right in front of your face but you can't show any skin or else you would blister so bad that you blead and you have to learn how to only use 1 hand when welding because its so hot that even with welding gloves and a heat shealed your glove would still catch fire if you were using your other hand to stabilize your welding hand because it was common to lay 1 to 2ft solid beads at a time you couldn't stop or else it would mess up the integrity so that's a long time to have your hand near that heat I used a auto tint healmit but even set to the max 14 your eyes would still be fatigued by the end of the day sometimes I'd wear sunglasses up under my helmet that helped a lot But i only did it for about 3yrs because even though the company was huge where i worked they had figured out how to get around OSHA safety laws because if they have it written down that they're working on a solution for an OSHA violation that gives them a 18-month time span where they're allowed to keep doing something out of Osha safety guidelines so long as they're "working on fixing the problem". and then after the 18 months is up OSHA comes back in and they would write up a different plan to fix the problem and were given another 18 months and this persisted for years and years and in Texas 95% of hard labor/ blue collar workers in the metal working fealed are Mexican and they are pushovers because they dont want to get fired so no one ever complains about the slave like work environment so these companies get away with soooooo much bad stuff because they know that the Mexicans wont put there foot down. So they never fixed the ventilation to give us the proper ventilation and when they tested the air quality the rating was from 0 to 800 (800 being the maximum parts per million that could safely be inhaled within an 8-hour work day) but the problem was we worked 10 to 12 hour work days but they only measured it for 8 hours of that day and still within that eight hours the measurement came out to 1750 PPM which means that in a 10 to 12hr work day we were getting over 2x the maximum safe levels and consequently I ended up with cadmium poisoning and probably a few other heavy metals and it was making me sick I was very toxic I developed bad asthma and I lost my night vision which to this day is still gone for the most part and I haven't been a welder in 8 years So i try to avoid having to drive at night I still have night vision it just takes about 4 hours for it to kick in as opposed to a few minutes with the regular person, quite annoying. and yeah you can make your own getto stick welder by taking the transformer out of an old microwave the bigger the better and then cutting out the top section which is wired to produce about 3,000 volts which will send you to a different dimension real quick if you plug it in and get too close to it so you cut that section out and Rewind it with some 8 gauge or 4 gauge down to about 24 volts but the amperage would be much higher which is what you want and that's technically good enough right there obviously you can add some more components and make it a lot better than that but if you just needed to get two pieces of metal melted together then that would do the job with an 11/16 rod good enough for some farm jobs I wouldn't trust it on anything I'm driving but it's good enough for around the farm . ive actually got several huge 100v capacitors that i got from a guy local that i found on Facebook market that i plan on using one day to updrade my cheap flux core welder i got a few years ago because its not a good welder the voltage is unstable so the welds dont come out like i want them to and these capacitors were custom made by nichicon for a local audio company there 4.5LB each 100v 100000uf and he said they are "nichicon gold tone" he said his bulk price was 189$ each! idk what he charged the customer? but I do know that the amplifier that he used the men cost 100k! there were 2 per amp in the power supply ( this was an insanely crazy high-end company the kind that doesn't have to advertise kind of like Lamborghini and Ferrari doesn't have to advertise you just know because you got that kind of money same with this company a pair of 2 ft long interconnects ( so a two foot long set of RCA's) ranged from 2000 to $8,000 depending on which level you got. they went out of business a few years ago which is why they were for sale on Facebook but I didn't pay $189 a piece I only paid $15 each so I grabbed 8 of them did I need 8? no , but i couldn't pass up that kind of deal? no so quality wise they're a bit overkill for my $150 flux core welder but the cheapest capacitor this size that I can find is about $80 each and they're piss poor quality in comparison to these so I think I came out pretty good on the deal I... can't stop being surprised by each your new comment. This is really something! I'm happy even to talk people like you! Wanted to asked, but I am so impressed right now. Too sorry to hear about your health. I almost forgot, my cousin grandfather also got something similar. I don't remember what exactly. And the same about the sight. One thing I would like to ask, however right now it seems quite a problem for me to dare to ask your anything, since you should take care of your sight. – Is it possible to use a welding kit not watching the process of welding directly? Like, for instance, looking the digital screen or something instead? (By the way, I recalled that about nine years ago I had to finish one of ny graduate works, and must do it at nights. I spared two or three nights to complete it, so my eyes were too tired. Time to time sparks appeared in front of me – the sign of anxiety and sight problems. What did I do except for having pills? I decided not to watch anything (like TV, smartphone, computer, books, etc) for a week. Actually it was truly difficult to do it within a day, so my maximum was three days. That helped me a lot. It was like my eyes became completely new, feeling like a newborn. So, I might advice this as a tip. However, not being a doctor I cannot guarantee anything.) Take care!
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