Clovis Merovingian
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Posts: 2,692
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Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 20, 2022 2:17:01 GMT
Interesting video and I reckon that I'll make a few notes on it that I took as I watched it. 1. I prefer Colin Woodard's American Nations to Joel Garreau's nine just because there's so much more evidence for it. Dialect maps, genetic clusters, voting patters, material culture, and most other objective indicators follow Woodard's model. Joel Garraeu's divisions are real but they are more economic type things then deep cultural ones. Throughout the video, whatifalthist continuously makes reference to Woodard's model again and again in explaining these regions betraying that it better reflects the ethnic/cultural characteristics of the different American peoples. 2. His statement that Europeans don't really know a whole lot about North America and do not seem to understand that we are VERY regionally diverse to the point where we are not one people is very true. Whenever the subject comes up in any discussions between Americans and Europeans online Americans try their hardest to explain this Europeans. They try their absolute dangdest to hammer this fact into their head but Europeans seem to have a conceptual blindspot and cannot imagine America as anything other then one cohesive thing. They have this arrogant attitude saying that they know more about the United States than Americans themselves know but when pressed on how they came to this knowledge it is often found out that the European in question has never been to the United States and has never traveled throughout it and gets all their knowledge from Hollywood movies. The occasional European that has traveled through different regions of the United States will often comment about how jarring it was to see these differences for themselves. I remember one in particular who had traveled to both New York and Appalachia and was just like... what the @#$%? 3. As stated in the video this isn't helped by the fact that the United States is a as he described it, "cookie cutter culture" that since World War 2 the United States government has tried its hardest to Unify the country under one identity and as a result its similar on a very shallow surface level. Everywhere you go in the US there's Walmart's, McDonald, and Starbucks, and even the accents are starting to level out. Europeans tend to differentiate themselves by surface level things like language, food, architecture, music, art, and other qualities in the cultural iceberg that lie above the water. We have those differences here believe me but our cultural differences are much deeper. A Frenchman and an Englishman will agree far more on and have far more similarities with each other on moral values, religion, the acceptability of violence, family rearing values, manners, the proper role of government, out group regard vs. tolerance, collectivism vs. individualism, level of social trust, attitudes on war, attitudes on honor, class, gender roles, metaphysical views and assumptions, and you name it than any two people from Massachuttssets or Alabama. See the image below? The government has tried to eliminate everything above the water but will never be able to eliminate what lies below it. They will never make us one people. To Americans people from Northwestern Europe seem downright homogenous by comparison. 3. Puritanism was a bonafide cult like Heaven's Gate or the Branch Davidians. I don't know why I had never realized that before. I think it's because the Puritans are taught to us as a kind of founding myth in school (as a result of the public school system being founded by Yankees) and we learn to see them in a kind of benign, disneyfide light. That they were a cult explains a lot of their actions throughout history like founding other even crazier cults like the Mormons, Jehovah's witnesses, Millerites, the Public Universal Friend cult, the Wallah Wallah Jesus cult, and the aforementioned Branch Davidians. It also explains their descendants behavior today with Woke SJWism just being the latest irrational cult they have pushed on the rest of America and by way of America's influence the rest of the Western World. 4. One thing that I had never given much consideration to was that my region of the United States is in the same latitude as Africa and thus has a climate and terrain that is much more similar to what you would find in Africa rather than in Europe. White people, especially Northwest Europeans (which most Deep South whites are) are not evolved to live in this climate, but the West African Bantus we enslaved are which is why before the great migration in the early twentieth century the Deep South was majority black. I never thought of my society as a place where British people through vicious tenacity and uncompromising brutal oppression were able to impose European civilization where it does not belong on an African terrain. I would say this though, I think there was a bit of a selection process that the whites here went through. The Lowland South is a distinct genetic group and Deep Southerners (for lack of a better term to call us) are a kind of race (See the American Genetic clusters map below). In the video, it mentions that most of the whites coming here died as soon as they got here and that's historically very true. I think that the ones that survived were better able to deal with the climate. I for one love the blazing humid heat of the summers here so much so that when I went on a church mission trip in Nicaragua I worked in the tropical heat in long sleeves and absolutely loved it. Most white coastal Southerners are like this as indeed, most of the people with me had no trouble at all. Below is a map of how Americans cluster together genetically that show these different regional cultures of American whites could be considered different races if indeed the term race has any meaning at all.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Aug 20, 2022 4:34:49 GMT
While Many Aspects Have Been Mentioned, I Feel Like This Isn't As In Depth As It Can Be; Evident By The Phallic-Berg Picture You Suggested.
The Visible, Sort Of Visible And Non Visible Aspects Are Not Right, I Feel Like It Wasn't Really That Thought Out And Awfully Basic.
While It Is Interesting That Weather Is Somewhat Based On Latitudes, The Grand Scheme Of The "Nine Nations" Is Severely Lacking In Encompassing Observation, And Seems To Be Shallow As I Was Left Wondering More Than I Should Have.
I Feel Like The Cultural Depth And Behavioral Patterns Of Nations Have Not Been At All Touched On This Topic, Even If It Was Considered A "Brief".
It Is Also Bias, As It Did Not Mention The Subterfuge Of Indigenous People For That Land, As If It Was Purposely Ignoring This Fact, And If They Are Doing This, I Cannot Trust What They Say.
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,692
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 20, 2022 5:27:57 GMT
While Many Aspects Have Been Mentioned, I Feel Like This Isn't As In Depth As It Can Be; Evident By The Phallic-Berg Picture You Suggested.
The Visible, Sort Of Visible And Non Visible Aspects Are Not Right, I Feel Like It Wasn't Really That Thought Out And Awfully Basic.
While It Is Interesting That Weather Is Somewhat Based On Latitudes, The Grand Scheme Of The "Nine Nations" Is Severely Lacking In Encompassing Observation, And Seems To Be Shallow As I Was Left Wondering More Than I Should Have.
I Feel Like The Cultural Depth And Behavioral Patterns Of Nations Have Not Been At All Touched On This Topic, Even If It Was Considered A "Brief".
It Is Also Bias, As It Did Not Mention The Subterfuge Of Indigenous People For That Land, As If It Was Purposely Ignoring This Fact, And If They Are Doing This, I Cannot Trust What They Say.
Oh, the text is just mental notes I made when watching the the video. The point of the post is the video. My writing is just a reaction to it. The depth you are looking for will be found in the video. Its a little long but its an interesting watch.
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Post by IM LITERALLY NEO on Aug 20, 2022 5:35:59 GMT
While Many Aspects Have Been Mentioned, I Feel Like This Isn't As In Depth As It Can Be; Evident By The Phallic-Berg Picture You Suggested.
The Visible, Sort Of Visible And Non Visible Aspects Are Not Right, I Feel Like It Wasn't Really That Thought Out And Awfully Basic.
While It Is Interesting That Weather Is Somewhat Based On Latitudes, The Grand Scheme Of The "Nine Nations" Is Severely Lacking In Encompassing Observation, And Seems To Be Shallow As I Was Left Wondering More Than I Should Have.
I Feel Like The Cultural Depth And Behavioral Patterns Of Nations Have Not Been At All Touched On This Topic, Even If It Was Considered A "Brief".
It Is Also Bias, As It Did Not Mention The Subterfuge Of Indigenous People For That Land, As If It Was Purposely Ignoring This Fact, And If They Are Doing This, I Cannot Trust What They Say.
Oh, the text is just mental notes I made when watching the the video. The point of the post is the video. My writing is just a reaction to it. The depth you are looking for will be found in the video. Its a little long but its an interesting watch. Indeed, But I Was Meaning For You To Expound Your Own Thoughts To Initiate A Discussion We Could Potentially Partake In On This Subject. I Am Aware Of What You Provided, I Just Meant To Imply That I Am Curious "What Else" You Might Add.
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 20, 2022 15:37:32 GMT
Standard black lover with passive hate on whites woke info that's being pushed so hard right now
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,692
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 21, 2022 3:24:02 GMT
Standard black lover with passive hate on whites woke info that's being pushed so hard right now Me, or the video?
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Post by MAYA-EL on Aug 21, 2022 6:40:38 GMT
Standard black lover with passive hate on whites woke info that's being pushed so hard right now Me, or the video? Both
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,692
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Aug 22, 2022 4:47:54 GMT
Explain what you found objectionable.
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Clovis Merovingian
Prestige/VIP
Elder
Posts: 2,692
Likes: 1,757
Meta-Ethnicity: Anglo-American
Ethnicity: Deep Southerner
Country: My State and my Region are my country
Region: The Deep South
Location: South Carolina
Ancestry: Gaelic (patrilineal), English, Ulster Scots/Scots Irish, Scottish, German, Swiss German, Swedish, Manx, Finnish, Norman French/Quebecois (distantly), Dutch (distantly)
Taxonomy: Borreby/Alpine/ Nordid mix
Y-DNA: R-S660/R-DF109
mtDNA: T1a1
Politics: Conservative
Religion: Christian
Hero: Andrew Jackson, Thomas Jefferson, James K. Polk
Age: 30
Philosophy: I try to find out what is true as best I can.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Sept 1, 2022 9:08:21 GMT
He posted part 2.
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Post by Eugene 2.0 on Sept 8, 2022 10:33:17 GMT
Not more than 30 minutes ago I stop reading Lovecraft's "He" that was written by him during his life in Boston. He complained about life in the big city, and wrote the daylight reveals not the best side of the place, so this made the writer walked by nights. Interesting to note, Lovecraft also supposed something as few nations in US, not in this short story, but in his letters to his friends. I'd say (I don't really remember the information from those letters very well) he noticed it, when the First World War began. As it known Lovecraft wanted to recruit the army, however he got no good health for it, and he rejected being a nurse or something, because he also didn't have skills in it either. He objected the current president (oh, I'm sorry, I might be wrong, was it Woodrow Wilson, I suppose it was him), wishing him to join the war at the firsts days. Anyway, this information I caught from S. T. Joschi from his book "Lovecraft: The Life". There was a sociologist (I don't remember his name) who said that USA was like a melting pot for cultures. Usually people the life of living together people looks like periods of waves. Maybe this is something that doesn't allow anyone to predict anything about what's gonna happen tomorrow? I don't know. Well, I don't know much about all of it from as historical as sociological perspective, while I would suggest that a nation or a culture sees it's leader whenever it exists at the moment, and how exactly it sees it, there's a way to define or to view them. I mean, if for some nations a leader is A, when for the other ones it is B, and A is far from B, it's a sign for them not be the union, or getting along for many years. And I only wonder, not being quite sure, does it work if for such two nations (with leaders A and B) to find a leader C such as C is as close to A so to B, so C is a compromise? Speaking truly I don't like: – that people stick to leaders (my own rough theory is to get rid of the leaders as of the idols for jews in the Old Testament) – that leaders are too far from each other that hides dangers – and that any compromised leaders (as C in that example) is extremely hard to find. Maybe if people really worshipped to our Lord Jesus and believed in God, they wouldn't be searching for the other gods or the idols. Last years one though bothered me and teared my heart up – I felt Christianity was at risk to be transformed into some newer pagan form. There were different tendencies, but that pagan one (idols, many idols, worshipping false icons instead of God) was indeed risky. The communities of people often change in time as waves at the sea, and even the grey old ancient threat may leap our from its depths with the new hidden tricks inside its wristbands as that demon for Gospels who being defeated caught up new seven ones stronger than him...
"Then it goes and takes with it seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that person is worse than the first.(A) That is how it will be with this wicked generation" (Matthews 12:45)
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