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Post by jonbain on Jul 15, 2022 21:36:52 GMT
The narrative of rape alleged against the Vikings was written by the Saxons, who were writing stories whilst the superior technology of the Vikings was traversing the globe. The Saxons have always been the mortal enemies of the Vikings, which is why the border between Denmark and Germany (Saxony) is one of the most enduring and bloodiest the world has known.
Then there is the word F.U.C.K. which originates from Anglo-Saxons raping Scots/Celtic women on the eve of their weddings. it stands for (Fornication Under Consent of the King). This was Saxon law in order to 'try' dilute Celtic peoples. The Celts and Vikings had few skirmishes by comparison. And are effectively 'cousins'.
We need to be very careful of the Saxon hegemonic agenda, which continues to this day, albeit largely surreptitiously and subconsciously. Nordic culture has a deep respect for women, and the Saxons were always envious of that, and our technical capacity ; whilst the Saxons pioneered writing and printing ... and propaganda.
The Arthurian legends are very real, but of course the Saxon narrative pretends that was myth. The concept of equality (round table) is anathema and abhorrent to the Saxon hierarchical social structures. In many ways ww2 was just a rehash of this ancient battle between these socio-ethical structures.
I firmly believe that Lindisfarne was a false flag attack to try discredit the Vikings with such propaganda ; as it made no sense to leave a monastery exposed like that full of wealth, and undefended. The Norse did not just appear one day. The Celts invited them in to try drive the Saxons out of Britain. North-West Scotland was actually sold to the Scots by the Norse King at one point.
To this day, the media still represents the Saxon strategy of endless lies to slander the more technically capable peoples. The Saxon obsession with conformity is typified with their Roman suits and ties and regulation haircuts. Germany was the Holy Roman empire. In so many ways, the Viking culture is more similar to Native Americans than Roman-Saxon culture via their common ancestry with the Laplanders. There is little historical narrative about that connection. But how did the bow and arrow continually evolve simultaneously in North America and Europe if there was no trade via the Laplanders? And that trade goes back at least 15000 years.
If you look at Laplander culture you will see a striking resemblance in clothing with native Americans, as well as very similar musical styles. And of course the liberty of a strong healthy mane of hair. Something that makes the Saxon-Roman egg-heads very very jealous.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 21, 2022 1:38:41 GMT
Explain to me the concept of Saxon culture. What are its characteristics and what ethnocultural groups are included in it?
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Post by jonbain on Jul 22, 2022 14:41:16 GMT
Explain to me the concept of Saxon culture. What are its characteristics and what ethnocultural groups are included in it?
Saxon cultural structure is strictly hierarchical, misogynistic, racist, and specifically conformist in all respects, even stylistically.
It may be better to describe it as Saxon-Roman. Italian style suits, piss-pot hairstyles, rigid routines. It lacks innovation, but it is effective in an industrial mass-production society.
The difficulty is that ethnically these days, people are mixed up quite alot, especially in the new world. So its more a matter of individual choices about ideology and culture, than anything to do with national identity ;
but there are still tendencies in old-world society for Nations to follow these norms.
But it defines itself in the Arthurian narrative too. Much of middle-class England is effectively Saxon (Anglo-Saxon).
Though I would consider Britain as a whole to have more in common with the New world than the Old world. (Being more mixed)
So the Roman-Saxon political ideology, vs the Celtic-Viking ideology as a dichotomy, is a formal ideological distinction, that can easily translate into nations that have little 'genetic' relation to any of those tribes.
Even in African tribes like the Xhosa and Zulu, the Xhosa follow a Saxon-style hierarchy, whereas the Zulu are more similar to the Celts in that individuality is valued more highly.
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Post by Clovis Merovingian on Jul 22, 2022 21:42:03 GMT
Explain to me the concept of Saxon culture. What are its characteristics and what ethnocultural groups are included in it?
Saxon cultural structure is strictly hierarchical, misogynistic, racist, and specifically conformist in all respects, even stylistically.
It may be better to describe it as Saxon-Roman. Italian style suits, piss-pot hairstyles, rigid routines. It lacks innovation, but it is effective in an industrial mass-production society.
The difficulty is that ethnically these days, people are mixed up quite alot, especially in the new world. So its more a matter of individual choices about ideology and culture, than anything to do with national identity ;
but there are still tendencies in old-world society for Nations to follow these norms.
But it defines itself in the Arthurian narrative too. Much of middle-class England is effectively Saxon (Anglo-Saxon).
Though I would consider Britain as a whole to have more in common with the New world than the Old world. (Being more mixed)
So the Roman-Saxon political ideology, vs the Celtic-Viking ideology as a dichotomy, is a formal ideological distinction, that can easily translate into nations that have little 'genetic' relation to any of those tribes.
Even in African tribes like the Xhosa and Zulu, the Xhosa follow a Saxon-style hierarchy, whereas the Zulu are more similar to the Celts in that individuality is valued more highly.
Well, I've seen the word ethnicity used in two main ways, to refer to someone's ancestry or bloodline, or to refer to a cultural group. When I use the term ethnicity I prefer to use it in the latter sense. That's why in my profile in the Meta Ethnicity and ethnicity section I list the cultural groups I'm a part of. I have ancestry from all over Northern Europe but culturally I am an English speaking North American from the Deep South. I use the term ethnicity this way (which is the way sociologists use it) because we need a good term to describe cultural groups because, as far as human distinctions go, culture is the most important one. I tend to see most things through the lens of culture and conflicts between them. To me, race and ancestry is irrelevant (well not irrelevant, one's ancestors are never irrelevant though ones skin color is the most irrelevant thing I can think of) because your culture is in large part what you are. If you're racially white but for some reason you've been adopted in an African-American family in the hood, and so you talk like an African American, think like an African American, and act like an African American, you are an African American in my book. Race is like a computer's hardware and ethnicity or culture like the software and I think the software is loads more important then the hardware. When I went to Nicaragua on a mission trip, I related far more to the brown skinned Mestizo Nicaraguans who were conservative, Christian, and generally more "normal" to me then I did to the people in Ashville North Carolina, a place that has been colonized by bohemian liberals from the North, who were all white, but their customs physically revolted me and made my skin crawl. Anyways thank you for answering my question but I suppose the only other question I have is why did you choose the term "Saxon" for this culture? The Saxons were only one Germanic tribe out of many. Did you coin it because its a useful term to describe the link between England and Germany or do you believe that this one specific tribe is behind the ills you describe? |
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Post by jonbain on Jul 27, 2022 10:18:30 GMT
Saxon cultural structure is strictly hierarchical, misogynistic, racist, and specifically conformist in all respects, even stylistically.
It may be better to describe it as Saxon-Roman. Italian style suits, piss-pot hairstyles, rigid routines. It lacks innovation, but it is effective in an industrial mass-production society.
The difficulty is that ethnically these days, people are mixed up quite alot, especially in the new world. So its more a matter of individual choices about ideology and culture, than anything to do with national identity ;
but there are still tendencies in old-world society for Nations to follow these norms.
But it defines itself in the Arthurian narrative too. Much of middle-class England is effectively Saxon (Anglo-Saxon).
Though I would consider Britain as a whole to have more in common with the New world than the Old world. (Being more mixed)
So the Roman-Saxon political ideology, vs the Celtic-Viking ideology as a dichotomy, is a formal ideological distinction, that can easily translate into nations that have little 'genetic' relation to any of those tribes.
Even in African tribes like the Xhosa and Zulu, the Xhosa follow a Saxon-style hierarchy, whereas the Zulu are more similar to the Celts in that individuality is valued more highly.
Well, I've seen the word ethnicity used in two main ways, to refer to someone's ancestry or bloodline, or to refer to a cultural group. When I use the term ethnicity I prefer to use it in the latter sense. That's why in my profile in the Meta Ethnicity and ethnicity section I list the cultural groups I'm a part of. I have ancestry from all over Northern Europe but culturally I am an English speaking North American from the Deep South. I use the term ethnicity this way (which is the way sociologists use it) because we need a good term to describe cultural groups because, as far as human distinctions go, culture is the most important one. I tend to see most things through the lens of culture and conflicts between them. To me, race and ancestry is irrelevant (well not irrelevant, one's ancestors are never irrelevant though ones skin color is the most irrelevant thing I can think of) because your culture is in large part what you are. If you're racially white but for some reason you've been adopted in an African-American family in the hood, and so you talk like an African American, think like an African American, and act like an African American, you are an African American in my book. Race is like a computer's hardware and ethnicity or culture like the software and I think the software is loads more important then the hardware. When I went to Nicaragua on a mission trip, I related far more to the brown skinned Mestizo Nicaraguans who were conservative, Christian, and generally more "normal" to me then I did to the people in Ashville North Carolina, a place that has been colonized by bohemian liberals from the North, who were all white, but their customs physically revolted me and made my skin crawl. Anyways thank you for answering my question but I suppose the only other question I have is why did you choose the term "Saxon" for this culture? The Saxons were only one Germanic tribe out of many. Did you coin it because its a useful term to describe the link between England and Germany or do you believe that this one specific tribe is behind the ills you describe?
Well, the term Saxon, I get from the Arthurian narrative, but its often used by the French/Scots/Irish to describe
the English-German cultural link as you say.
(Of course there are English who are Norman or Celtic,
and thus not at all Saxon.)
I agree that the term 'ethnicity' is best used to describe culture, as the term 'race' does not exist on the ontological level. 'Race' is just a cultural construct itself - but one which is pushed on us by the Saxon cultural ideology as if it had real value.
This is why Hitler tried in vain to get the British on his side, but because the British ethic is largely transcendent of 'racial' ideology, they of course rejected his 'offers', knowing it to be opportunistic, and thus would only be to the material benefit of the nazis.
The other significant factor in Saxon cultural constructs is the role that money plays. Their entire motivation is simply monetized material gain. Whereas the Celtic/Viking culture values ethic as being a far more vital ideal.
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